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//#13// HFStars 2014 Top-20

View Poll Results: #13?
Justin Dowling 0 0%
Remi Elie 3 5.45%
Scott Glennie 0 0%
Niklas Hansson 0 0%
Jyrki Jokipakka 0 0%
Miro Karjalainen 0 0%
Henri Kiviaho 0 0%
Esa Lindell 1 1.82%
Curtis McKenzie 7 12.73%
Emil Molin 0 0%
Brent Moran 0 0%
Alex Peters 0 0%
Brett Pollock 26 47.27%
Michael Prapavessis 0 0%
Brendan Ranford 0 0%
Dmitry Sinitsyn 0 0%
Gemel Smith 1 1.82%
Matej Stransky 15 27.27%
Branden Troock 1 1.82%
Troy Vance 1 1.82%
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08-07-2014, 08:10 PM
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//#13// HFStars 2014 Top-20

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prospect
pos.
country
acquired
round
change
% of vote
1
 ‏‏‏‏Brett Ritchie
RW
2011
2nd
4
73.9
2
 ‏‏‏‏Jack Campbell
G
2010
1st
2
55.6
3
 ‏‏‏‏Jason Dickinson
C
2013
1st
5
tiebr.
4
 ‏‏‏‏Jamie Oleksiak
D
2011
1st
2
36.5
5
 ‏‏‏‏John Klingberg
D
2010
5th
14
50.9
6
 ‏‏‏‏Devin Shore
C
2012
2nd
6
48.2
7
 ‏‏‏‏Julius Honka
D
2014
1st
new
49.2
8
 ‏‏‏‏Patrik Nemeth
D
2010
2nd
1
91.2
9
 ‏‏‏‏Radek Faksa
C
2012
1st
3
37.1
10
 ‏‏‏‏Philippe Desrosiers
G
2013
2nd
5
57.5
11
 ‏‏‏‏Ludwig Bystrom
D
2012
2nd
3
38.5
12
 ‏‏‏‏Cole Ully
LW
2013
5th
new
25.4

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I guess every count really does matter...

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Pollock then Stransky.

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Pollock then Stransky.

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08-07-2014, 10:39 PM
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Stransky, Pullock and then McKenzie.

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Elie Lindell and Hansson getting underrated IMO. Pollock again

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Elie Lindell and Hansson getting underrated IMO. Pollock again
It is going to be a sad day when McKenzie goes over Elie.

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It is going to be a sad day when McKenzie goes over Elie.
No, it really won't be.

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I find it hilarious that Pollock gets love for being a 2nd round pick but Elie gets hate. Neither should be above Stransky.

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I find it hilarious that Pollock gets love for being a 2nd round pick but Elie gets hate. Neither should be above Stransky.
They're different players. Pollock has a higher ceiling, but you could say Elie has a better chance of being a NHL player.

I honestly don't ever see Stransky being a NHL player, but that's just me. He does have amazing puck skills though

Pollock to me is another Dickinson. After this season I think lots of us will be talking more about him.

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I find it hilarious that Pollock gets love for being a 2nd round pick but Elie gets hate. Neither should be above Stransky.
Dagnabbit I knew I forgot all 2nd round picks were created equal. Shoot I sure hope we get to redo all the voting now that we know draft position matters ... and clearly age makes you better because your a year older.



Let's ignore the fact that as a 17/18 year old on one of the best teams in their league one of them shined and forced himself into a Top 6 role on his way to a Memorial Cup win and the other found himself traded to one of the worst teams in his league where he could finally get some decent minutes.

Plus ... I think we would sort of say London wasn't nearly as good as everyone thought.

So yes it's an easy decision for me ... and a pretty obvious one ... that one guys has already done significantly better in his short career and shown some pretty high end upside.

Sort of off topic but thank you Bluesoma so, so much... I bought in to Hockey Streams and have been watching the EDM/POR series and even a Honka game the last two days. Pollock has been a blast to watch. I'm selfishly pulling for Honka to return to Swift Current because I'll be able to watch him.

Getting to see Pollock in the playoffs though makes me agree that he has Dickinson upside. I'm still going to try and catch an Elie game, and I'm really pleased at what he's done. Flashy stats on a bad team, same with Ully, are never going to be as impressive to me as a guy forcing his way up a top notch lineup. Playing a key role on a championship team matters.

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I find it hilarious that Pollock gets love for being a 2nd round pick but Elie gets hate. Neither should be above Stransky.
Ya Elie really has gotten the short end of the stick, what was he a ppg player on a terrible Belleville team. Stars have done really well with their 2nd round players, sucks they wont have one in the 2015 draft.

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I'm just going to throw out there that I don't understand knocking someone voting for McKenzie at this point. Call it leeching off linemates, being an old prospect, or whatever. In terms of when he can/will make an impact on the NHL team McKenzie is above virtually every single prospect left on the board. He also has a better AHL season to his name than any other prospect.

Not everybody makes their list with absolute top end potential in mind, even though the vast majority here seem to value ceiling above all else.

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I haven't seen anyone knocking people for voting for CM, more people not understanding why others aren't.

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I haven't seen anyone knocking people for voting for CM, more people not understanding why others aren't.
I should have just quoted him to save the confusion.

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It is going to be a sad day when McKenzie goes over Elie.

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Just noticed Haydon isn't on the list. He probably won't crack the top 20 anyways, but I'd take him above some of the guys on the list.

Was trying to pick my last 7 guys. Assuming Pollock wins this round, I'd probably go with in no order, Elie, Mckenzie, Stransky, hansson, troock, Smith and either Glennie or Lindell

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I'm just going to throw out there that I don't understand knocking someone voting for McKenzie at this point. Call it leeching off linemates, being an old prospect, or whatever. In terms of when he can/will make an impact on the NHL team McKenzie is above virtually every single prospect left on the board. He also has a better AHL season to his name than any other prospect.

Not everybody makes their list with absolute top end potential in mind, even though the vast majority here seem to value ceiling above all else.
If people valued ceiling above all else Honka would have probably been first.

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It is going to be a sad day when McKenzie goes over Elie.
Not sure why it would be. Both have similar potential, while one is much further along in his development. Pretty clear win for McKenzie there.

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Not sure why it would be. Both have similar potential, while one is much further along in his development. Pretty clear win for McKenzie there.
If they had similar potential Elie would be a nonprospect. As prospects get older their potential naturally declines until it finally matches up with their current ability and then that starts to decline. That's the way I always saw it, anyway.

Re: McKenzie

I think you have to be either fast or smart to make an impact in the NHL. I've liked what I've seen from McKenzie in the AHL this year. I used to think of him as purely a grinder but he's shown that he has some skill and a pretty good shot. I just predict he'll have trouble physically getting to where he needs to be on the ice at the speed the NHL demands. Elie all the way for me.


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If they had similar potential Elie would be a nonprospect. As prospects get older their potential naturally declines until it finally matches up with their current ability and then that starts to decline. That's the way I always saw it, anyway.
Fine, then they have about the same potential ceiling.

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