Gawd, this is terrible, we will probably beat the habs...
Still, it is nice to know that Grabo is willing to go out there and battle, even fight through injuries, to come back as quick as possible for the team. I would love this if we were still in the playoffs.
Luke Schenn + Leafs pick to Edmonton for Sam Gagner & Oilers pick would address organizational needs of both teams with Leafs drafting a top forward and Oilers securing a top defender in the process.
Schenn a western Canadian kid and Sam Gagner a London Ontario born kid returns both players to their roots.
I have a feeling that Edmonton would love Red Deer Rebel Matt Dumba and would only be willing to drop no lower than 4/5 in order to believe they could get him.. Which makes a Leafs loss in game #82 all that more important in that potential trade scenario.
It would be contingent on Saturday kinda like you were saying. Edmonton has a ton of potential in their forward group and now need to focus on the back-end. I am just not completely convinced on Gagner yet. He has been too inconsistent for him to be given the role of #1 free and clear.
Gawd, this is terrible, we will probably beat the habs...
Still, it is nice to know that Grabo is willing to go out there and battle, even fight through injuries, to come back as quick as possible for the team. I would love this if we were still in the playoffs.
As long as Anaheim beats Calgary or Minnesota beats Phoenix, beating the habs won't be the worst situation for us at 6th, besides the 17% probability of being bounced to 7th.
Title is incorrect. Leafs are currently 6th not 5th. Leafs win the tiebreaker with Anaheim with the one head to head win.
Nope, those situations don't count for teams we only play once per season, there needs to be at least one home game for each team to win the season series. Since season series is nullified, goal differential is the next factor to unbreak the tie.
I hope we can grab Faksa in the draft. He's a big, scoring, two-way type of powerforward that we need. I've read some reports that say that he's almost NHL ready and could make the jump next season. Although I'd like to see him play out at least another season in the OHL to improve his offensive game and gain confidence, it would be nice to have the option of having him on the team.
Nope, those situations don't count for teams we only play once per season, there needs to be at least one home game for each team to win the season series. Since season series is nullified, goal differential is the next factor to unbreak the tie.
It doesn't say this explicitly at NHL.com but it's good to hear.
Tie-Breaking procedure
* - Division leaders are seeded 1, 2, and 3 in Conference standings. If two or more clubs are tied in points during the regular season, the standing of the clubs is determined in the following order:
1. The fewer number of games played (i.e., superior points percentage). This will not matter at the end of the season
2. The greater number of games won, excluding games won in the Shootout. This figure is reflected in the ROW column. The ROW Column on NHL.com suggests that Anaheim has 31 and Toronto also has 31.
3. The greater number of points earned in games between the tied clubs. If two clubs are tied, and have not played an equal number of home games against each other, points earned in the first game played in the city that had the extra game shall not be included. If more than two clubs are tied, the higher percentage of available points earned in games among those clubs, and not including any "odd" games, shall be used to determine the standing. This is where Toronto wins, well not quite. The only match up this year was a game in Anaheim where Toronto won 5-2. However, they did not play an equal number of home games against each other. Therefore we dischard the points earned in the first (and only) game played in Anaheim.
4. The greater differential between goals for and against for the entire regular season. NOTE: In standings a victory in a shootout counts as one goal for, while a shootout loss counts as one goal against. So we go to goals for and goals against. Here the differential is in favour of Anaheim, they are at -24, whereas Toronto is -30.
So we know that Toronto has the 5th pick. Assuming Toronto loses the last game we will retain the 5th pick.
If the Islanders win, we get the 4th pick.
If the Islanders tie, we get the 5th pick because of ROW which Islanders only have 27 of and we have 31.
If we win the last game we mess up everything. We could fall as far as 7th. Tampa has more ROWs and Carolina leads the season series 3-1.
I just read the following to add to the confusion:
Otherwise, the standings are determined by total points. If two or more teams are tied in total points, the tie is broken using the following criteria, in order:
- Most wins.
- Most points in games against each other among the tied teams.
- The greater positive differential between goals scored for and against among the tied teams.
*The confusion is because W's from the shootout don't count as a tiebreaker. So you have to look at OT/Reg W totals first, then season series, then goal diff. Again season series does not count if a single game is played.
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I just read the following to add to the confusion:
Otherwise, the standings are determined by total points. If two or more teams are tied in total points, the tie is broken using the following criteria, in order:
- Most wins.
- Most points in games against each other among the tied teams.
- The greater positive differential between goals scored for and against among the tied teams.
Where did you read this? Just read what is posted on the official NHL website...............
Well I just seen the highlights from last night's leaf game. Wow! Tampa Bay is really trolling the leafs tank right now by scoring on their own net to put the game into OT
I hope we can grab Faksa in the draft. He's a big, scoring, two-way type of powerforward that we need. I've read some reports that say that he's almost NHL ready and could make the jump next season. Although I'd like to see him play out at least another season in the OHL to improve his offensive game and gain confidence, it would be nice to have the option of having him on the team.
I really like Faksa and I would draft him if we landed 7-8
Well I just seen the highlights from last night's leaf game. Wow! Tampa Bay is really trolling the leafs tank right now by scoring on their own net to put the game into OT
That would have been a huge loss for toronto
Too many what ifs. There would be no certainty that Anaheim and Minny would have won if Toronto lost. Just be happy we're still in 5th as of today.
It seems like you guys are all of a sudden putting Grigorenko lower, now that it looks like the Habs are getting him. He's the second best forward at this time and you almost have to go with BPA at that range. He doesn't go below 3rd. Let's not turn into stereotypical Leafs fans.
Galy has also dropped off in reality, the injury was huge.
Tie-Breaking procedure
* - Division leaders are seeded 1, 2, and 3 in Conference standings. If two or more clubs are tied in points during the regular season, the standing of the clubs is determined in the following order:
1. The fewer number of games played (i.e., superior points percentage). This will not matter at the end of the season
2. The greater number of games won, excluding games won in the Shootout. This figure is reflected in the ROW column. The ROW Column on NHL.com suggests that Anaheim has 31 and Toronto also has 31.
3. The greater number of points earned in games between the tied clubs. If two clubs are tied, and have not played an equal number of home games against each other, points earned in the first game played in the city that had the extra game shall not be included. If more than two clubs are tied, the higher percentage of available points earned in games among those clubs, and not including any "odd" games, shall be used to determine the standing. This is where Toronto wins, well not quite. The only match up this year was a game in Anaheim where Toronto won 5-2. However, they did not play an equal number of home games against each other. Therefore we dischard the points earned in the first (and only) game played in Anaheim.
4. The greater differential between goals for and against for the entire regular season. NOTE: In standings a victory in a shootout counts as one goal for, while a shootout loss counts as one goal against. So we go to goals for and goals against. Here the differential is in favour of Anaheim, they are at -24, whereas Toronto is -30.
So we know that Toronto has the 5th pick. Assuming Toronto loses the last game we will retain the 5th pick.
If the Islanders win, we get the 4th pick.
If the Islanders tie, we get the 5th pick because of ROW which Islanders only have 27 of and we have 31.
If we win the last game we mess up everything. We could fall as far as 7th. Tampa has more ROWs and Carolina leads the season series 3-1.
Hope that helps....
The part that continues to confuse it for me (other than the standings clearly showing the team as 5th last) is the part that states " If two clubs are tied, and have not played an equal number of home games against each other,"... I was taking the "if the two clubs are tied" part to refer to mean "tied in points earned between the 2 teams" as it's already established that this is a tiebreaking procedure so obviously he teams are tied so that would be redundant.
Last edited by StarBurns RIP: 04-06-2012 at 01:30 PM.
