As an impartial viewer, I thought it was hilarious.
However obviously it's an illegal play and Clowe should've gotten a penalty.
I do think that issuing him a fine is definitely a possibility but any talk of suspension is just ridiculous.
The referees are the ones who missed it and they should be subject to as much scrutiny as Clowe, if not more.
Couldn't have said it better myself. A play like that being ignored just straight up ruins the integrity of the game. All parties involved should be punished, more so the refs who missed it.
Because the Sharks didn't score on a 5 minute PP that proves that they will never score on a PP again for the rest of the game... Just because it happened before doesn't mean it's guaranteed.
But it sure helps the odds doesn't? Bottom line the refs saw it, chose not to call it because they did not want to put the Sharks down 5 on 3 again.
The NHL has some integrity issues. And its not just this game. Happens all the time.
A penalty is a penalty and time and game situation should not dictate when to and when not to call it.
See what you have to understand is that Clowe’s stick is a sophisticated instrument, it has to touch the ice every so often to discharge the built up electrons (also called cloumbs), you normally don’t notice this happening, though, because it occurs at various times throughout the game when it doesn’t matter. This is just one case where it did happen to matter. It’s amazing this doesn’t happen more frequently.
Worst all around reffing I've ever seen live. Kopitar gets crosschecked (no call), then they call the trip (which it was).
We were laughing at the Clowe play, but couldn't believe it wasn't called. They play was completely isolated, everyone else in the building saw it.
Brown took that obvious penalty late in OT, and the Kings practically mauled the sharks on a few plays. Two of them were no brainers that were let go. At that point we were screaming "just tackle him" because nothing was going to come of it. Guys were getting away with crap all night, and the more it was let go, the worse it got. Just bad bad bad.
Unfortunately, I've seen many games this year on TV that were just as poorly called. I don't believe that the refs suck all of a sudden, in general NHL officiating is quite good. After the season is over, I hope a serious look at how the game is called is taken. Maybe the speed is too fast for the refs. Perhaps give them some video help, an off ice guy, something to help them out.
Excellent post.
THe refs allowed murder early and the result was mayhem...
I don't understand why this is getting blown out proportion. It was illegal, it was wrong, and it should have been penalized. However, people who think he should be suspended are absolutely ridiculous. The argument is that Clowe stopped a Kings play into the zone which could have resulted in a goal. However, what distinguishes it from an intentional trip, hooking, or other similar action that could illegally break up a play? Why don't we consider those as suspendable?
If you get called for diving enough times, you are fined or suspended. I firmly believe they should use replay to fine divers retroactively because they are so damn hard to see in real time at real speed. The other thing with dives (and faking injuries) is they are subjective to a point. If a guy says his shoulder was killing him and that's why he rolled around on the ice like a tool, then all of a sudden the trainer's magic spray made it all better and he could return to play, you can't disprove that. It makes it very hard to discipline that without some concrete evidence.
This is not the same. There is no question of whether or not Clowe knowingly broke up a play from the bench. There's no level of "well he was tripped a tiny bit and lost an edge."
And I don't see your point about the slam-dunk appeal. This is already clearly subject to supplementary discipline via either the interference or unsportsmanlike rules.
That's the thing about the diving rules though - they aren't supposed to be optional and they are supposed to be enforced on players regardless of whether or not they were called. There's supposed to be a suspension on the third dive of the year. Not third called dive, the third dive. Enough said.
As to the slam dunk comment, the league has been rather liberal in its interpretation of players who leave the bench to start altercations. They have declined to fine or suspend for sucker punches, slew foots, boardings, abuse of officials and other penalties where the suspension rules are much more clearly spelled out. To give a fine in a circumstance where player health wasn't an issue and there's no precedent seems....thin. Maybe I'm wrong, it just seems like putting their effort in the wrong place - which should be some form of legitimate teeth into sanctioning the officials involved in this.
An Oiler got an interference penalty against the Ducks Sunday for breaking up a rush by playing the puck while standing in the penalty box. It removed a potential scoring chance. Should he be fined too?
See what you have to understand is that Clowe’s stick is a sophisticated instrument, it has to touch the ice every so often to discharge the built up electrons (also called cloumbs), you normally don’t notice this happening, though, because it occurs at various times throughout the game when it doesn’t matter. This is just one case where it did happen to matter. It’s amazing this doesn’t happen more frequently.
Ha, nice, slightly different circumstances though. I find it quite funny that sharks fans keep bringing the clock saga up, It wasn't even against your team and as other have said, supposedly the period was exactly 20mins long.
I'm still a bit pissed that clowe wasn't called for it but probably more pissed that we let go a 3-1 lead in our own barn. Next game should be awesome
Ha, nice, slightly different circumstances though. I find it quite funny that sharks fans keep bringing the clock saga up, It wasn't even against your team and as other have said, supposedly the period was exactly 20mins long.
I'm still a bit pissed that clowe wasn't called for it but probably more pissed that we let go a 3-1 lead in our own barn. Next game should be awesome
The clock operator is human. They don't stop the clock precisely when the whistle is blown. I'm sure most 20 minute periods are actually around 19 minutes and 55 seconds.
Ha, nice, slightly different circumstances though. I find it quite funny that sharks fans keep bringing the clock saga up, It wasn't even against your team and as other have said, supposedly the period was exactly 20mins long.
I'm still a bit pissed that clowe wasn't called for it but probably more pissed that we let go a 3-1 lead in our own barn. Next game should be awesome
The people bringing up the clock are a small and misinformed minority.
I don't understand why this is getting blown out proportion. It was illegal, it was wrong, and it should have been penalized. However, people who think he should be suspended are absolutely ridiculous. The argument is that Clowe stopped a Kings play into the zone which could have resulted in a goal. However, what distinguishes it from an intentional trip, hooking, or other similar action that could illegally break up a play? Why don't we consider those as suspendable?
Because we are all used to those kinds of things. Somebody deliberately playing the puck from the bench like that is really rare and therefore will garner much more attention. It also was a very important game for the Kings. They finally have a real shot at winning the Pacific for the first time and that's huge considering their last banner was in the early 90s.
I honestly laughed at this, but I am assuming King fans are furious and understandable so lol.
That 1 play didn't decide the outcome, though. yes, it should have been a penalty, but Stoll retained possession of the puck and the Kings still had 40 seconds of PP time.
That 1 play didn't decide the outcome, though. yes, it should have been a penalty, but Stoll retained possession of the puck and the Kings still had 40 seconds of PP time.
That 1 play didn't decide the outcome, though. yes, it should have been a penalty, but Stoll retained possession of the puck and the Kings still had 40 seconds of PP time.
It would have been a 5 on 3 and Stoll lost full control of the puck.
Ha, nice, slightly different circumstances though. I find it quite funny that sharks fans keep bringing the clock saga up, It wasn't even against your team and as other have said, supposedly the period was exactly 20mins long. I'm still a bit pissed that clowe wasn't called for it but probably more pissed that we let go a 3-1 lead in our own barn. Next game should be awesome
Yes and this is what Kings fans SHOULD be upset about. But taking it out on the refs is way easier.
I don't understand why this is getting blown out proportion. It was illegal, it was wrong, and it should have been penalized. However, people who think he should be suspended are absolutely ridiculous. The argument is that Clowe stopped a Kings play into the zone which could have resulted in a goal. However, what distinguishes it from an intentional trip, hooking, or other similar action that could illegally break up a play? Why don't we consider those as suspendable?
It is getting blown out of proportion as it relates to Clowe getting suspended, that is nuts.
But the league and officials, are a joke. This was not a subjective call. A guy on the bench touched the puck on a break, it was seen by the officials it was not called. Something wrong with that.
