I forget... Which team was it whose clock mysteriously "malfunctioned" and handed them a game-winning goal a few months ago?
What's good for the goose...
You don't pay attention much, do you? Several teams in the league have similar clocks, and they have all been reported to do the same kind of calibration during play. Ultimately each period is exactly 20:00.
You really don't understand why it's a big deal for a player on the bench to reach in and interfere with the play on the ice? You really don't understand why that's different or unusual? Give me a break and take off the teal colored glasses already.
I'm not arguing its not unusual. I'm arguing that people calling for suspensions are out of their mind, because Clowe's play hockey-wise is no different from an intentional on-ice method of cheating like tripping, other than Clowe gets to look like a dumbass.
Definitely a missed call, but everyone needs to calm down. If this was a missed hook/trip/etc. that cost the Kings an odd-man rush, there would be no call for anything other than the head of the officials that missed the call. However, this situation is different because it involved a player on the bench.
A fine would be appropriate because players need to be deterred from doing this in the future, but saying that this opens the door to everyone trying it is kinda silly. The old adage is: "if you're not cheating, you're not trying". Nobody's done this before mainly because it would be a really really stupid penalty to take.
That said, there shouldn't be a fine just because the refs missed this call. Missed calls happen all the time, and unless they're deemed dangerous, fines usually aren't levied post-game. If Clowe gets fined, it should be because it was a stupid play that the NHL thinks needs special attention (moreso than just changing the rule to warrant a penalty shot).
They have a right to be upset, not to send hate to a hockey player.
I know, but some people express it that way. In no way am I sticking up for that jerk..but, i mean, come on, you are bound to get some hate unwarranted or not, sadly.
I'm not arguing why he reacted the way he did, but that his reaction caused him to lose focus and lose the puck.
99.9% of the players in the league would have reacted the same way. Clowe's play had a direct result in the puck being turned over..
But in the end it wasn't called because the refs were not going to put the Sharks down 5 on 3 that late in the game. (It was not a missed call.) I get it, this is how the NHL works and its not going to change. I know the Kings have benefited from no calls at the end of games too.
Kings had plenty of chances to put the game away, they did not. The good news is Quick normally bounces back and has stellar games after laying an egg. Kings will need to stay out of the box though. It will be fun.
They have a right to be upset, not to send hate to a hockey player.
People have a right to speak their minds, nobody says that you have to agree with it. It's called free speech. Death threats are a different story though.
You don't pay attention much, do you? Several teams in the league have similar clocks, and they have all been reported to do the same kind of calibration during play. Ultimately each period is exactly 20:00.
I'm not arguing its not unusual. I'm arguing that people calling for suspensions are out of their mind, because Clowe's play hockey-wise is no different from an intentional on-ice method of cheating like tripping, other than Clowe gets to look like a dumbass.
You are wrong no matter what you think. What he did can be a suspendable or fineable offense, the others can't. Your opinion doesn't over rule the NHL RULE BOOK. How is that hard for you to understand?
Does that mean he will or should get suspended? Who knows, but for you to compare a minor penalty by a player on the ice with what Clowe did is just wrong.
Nice baseless statement. I actually play in rec, but not if you say so.
OK then, if you play, how many times have you been pokechecked by a player on the bench? I'm guessing never. You know why? Because it's such an egregious play that it never happens. When it happened tonight, Stoll had the basic human reaction that any player would have had under those circumstances. Players arn't machines, but when something so completely stupid happens, your going to get a reaction.
I think we learned tonight that teams that wanted to play the Sharks in round 1 better be careful. They're still dangerous and are never out of a game. I thought Clowe was beastly in the game. Regardless of that play.
Its a tactic on Twitter that Paul Bissonette is notorious for. Rather than respond to hate tweets, he RTs one and lets all of his followers go after the person like rabid dogs. Same thing is going on with that Clowe tweet. Hundreds of people are giving it to the guy. Now hes backtracking and saying he's drunk and that hes sorry haha. Oh internet tough guys.
You are wrong no matter what you think. What he did can be a suspendable or fineable offense, the others can't. Your opinion doesn't over rule the NHL RULE BOOK. How is that hard for you to understand?
Does that mean he will or should get suspended? Who knows, but for you to compare a minor penalty by a player on the ice with what Clowe did is just wrong.
I think your ability to believe in your own opinion as fact is equal parts amazing and appalling.
I think your ability to believe in your own opinion as fact is equal parts amazing and appalling.
So the NHL rule book is my opinion? Wow, I guess I have much more power that I think. His action can result in supplemental discipline. A hook or trip can't. You not understanding that has nothing to do with anyone's opinion.
"56.2 Minor Penalty - A minor penalty shall be imposed on a player who interferes with or impedes the progress of an opponent who is not in possession of the puck.
A minor penalty shall be imposed on a player or goalkeeper who restrains an opponent who is attempting to “fore-check.”
A minor penalty shall be imposed on an attacking player who deliberately checks a defensive player, including the goalkeeper, who is not in possession of the puck.
A minor penalty shall be imposed on a player who shall cause an opponent who is not in possession of the puck to be forced off-side, causing a stoppage in play. If this action causes a delayed off-side (and not necessarily a stoppage in play), then the application of a penalty for interference is subject to the judgment of the Referee.
A minor penalty shall be imposed on a player who deliberately knocks a stick out of an opponent’s hand, or who prevents a player who has dropped his stick or any other piece of equipment from regaining possession of it.
A minor penalty shall be imposed on a player who knocks or shoots any abandoned or broken stick or illegal puck or other debris towards an opposing puck carrier in a manner that could cause him to be distracted. (See also Rule 53 – Throwing Equipment.
A minor penalty shall be imposed on any identifiable player on the players’ bench or penalty bench who, by means of his stick or his body, interferes with the movements of the puck or any opponent on the ice during the progress of the play. In addition, should a player about to come onto the ice, play the puck while one or both skates are still on the players’ or penalty bench, a minor penalty for interference shall be assessed.
The appropriate penalty according to the playing rules shall be assessed when a player on the players’ or penalty bench gets involved with an opponent on the ice during a stoppage in play. The player(s) involved may be subject to additional sanctions as appropriate pursuant to Rule 28 – Supplementary Discipline.)"
There shouldn't be a fine just because the refs missed this call. Missed calls happen all the time, and unless they're deemed dangerous, fines usually aren't levied post-game. If Clowe gets fined, it should be because it was a stupid play that the NHL thinks needs special attention (moreso than just changing the rule to warrant a penalty shot).
In last season's playoff matchup between these same two teams, Jarrett Stoll checked Ian White from behind, and the refs did not call a penalty. As a result, the NHL suspended Stoll one game for the hit.
Precedent has been set. The league has already decided that it can suspend players who get away with dirty plays.
How convenient that the next game for Clowe is vs L.A.
