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05-17-2012, 05:54 PM
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Team Canada REEKS of the Oilers and Lowe

I am surprised this has not been brought up more.

1) Lowe should not even be an NHL executive let alone at an international tournament.

2) couple of their top young players getting top line experience

3) potential candidate and a most likely rumored next coach getting a showcase

4) and the Ryan Murray showcase was just a dead giveaway.

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05-17-2012, 06:02 PM
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They need every advantage they can get.

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Ya I'm also tired of Kevin Lowe getting any job related to hockey Canada.

Enough of the boys club, he sucks.

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1) Opinion
2) Two of the teams top scorers
3) Possible
4) Wouldn't have played if not for injuries/suspensions. Won't draft him anyways.

1/4.

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05-17-2012, 06:08 PM
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Next time we'll tell Eberle to stay home then if he sucks that bad to you.

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05-17-2012, 06:10 PM
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Yeah, God, Eberle was such a liability this tournament, definitely didn't deserve to be on the team at all. All those goals Dubnyk let in too, really screwed Canada over this tourney.

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05-17-2012, 06:11 PM
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he might also be looking at Schenn who has no reasons to be there.

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05-17-2012, 06:12 PM
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Lowe was part of Yzermans management team for the Olympics as well. Must be his fault we didn't win there too!


Eberle was one of the best players in the entire league regardless of nationality just a heads up.

Nuge didn't play on the top line at all, nor on the first power play. Nice try again.

Murray was invited to the camp for the Pre tournament games against the Swiss. Subban, Vlasic, Methot, etc all got injured or suspended, that is the only reason he played.

Sutter is a quality coach who was not the first choice to begin with.

Good attempt though.

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05-17-2012, 06:16 PM
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Doesn't matter. How would any other GM have done a better job? Forced more players to accept invites at gunpoint?

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I am surprised this has not been brought up more.

1) Lowe should not even be an NHL executive let alone at an international tournament.

2) couple of their top young players getting top line experience

3) potential candidate and a most likely rumored next coach getting a showcase

4) and the Ryan Murray showcase was just a dead giveaway.

Kevin Lowe has nothing to do with performance on the ice. The Oilers are not taking Murray. Our team has always maintained you take the BPA with the first overall. Show me a list where Yakupov is not #1.

The real issue is Canadian players passing on the tournament in general. We constantly ice a sub-par level of talent. They need to make WC participation a requirement for Olympic consideration. Maybe Iginla would find time in his months and months of golfing to help his country out. Injuries are one thing, a player who has never gone to Europe to wear the maple leaf is another.

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Name an Oiler on that team that had a bad tourney. This was arguably one of the best forward groups they brought to the tournament in several years.

Their defence sucked. None of them were Oilers.


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Doesn't matter. How would any other GM have done a better job? Forced more players to accept invites at gunpoint?
I am sure there were some prominent players who's teams missed the playoffs or got knocked out in round 1 better than say RNH at the moment that could have taken away his ice time.

Eberle I have no issues with and he isn't a rookie.

Sutter is not a quality NHL coach, and Ryan Murray was a dead give away. The Oilers were definitely entertaining the idea of drafting him, maybe not 1st overall but at least dealing down to draft him. That may or may not be the case now after what they seen. They were using this as an evaluation.

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05-17-2012, 06:24 PM
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2) couple of their top young players getting top line experience
Dubnyk, Eberle, and RNH are getting experience out of merit. They are fantastic players. Eberle was chosen as one of the three best performers for Team Canada

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05-17-2012, 06:26 PM
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I am sure there were some prominent players better than say RNH at the moment that could have taken away his ice time.

Eberle I have no issues with and he isn't a rookie.
I have to wonder if you watched the NHL this past season if you think RNH didn't deserve a spot. These aren't the Olympic teams - there are a ridiculous number of players that don't participate.

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05-17-2012, 06:33 PM
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I am sure there were some prominent players better than say RNH at the moment that could have taken away his ice time.

Eberle I have no issues with and he isn't a rookie.

Sutter is not a quality NHL coach, and Ryan Murray was a dead give away. The Oilers were definitely entertaining the idea of drafting him, maybe not 1st overall but at least dealing down to draft him. That may or may not be the case now after what they seen. They were using this as an evaluation.
Umm, you do realize Ryan Nugent Hopkins was nearly PPG and on pace for about 70 points this year right? If someone like Crosby wanted to go, then fine, take RNH off the team. But guys like Crosby declined the invitation, so it's a moot point. There really aren't any better options than RNH that accepted the invitation. The fact that Teddy Purcell is on the team should indicate that.

Sutter got the Devils a division title IIRC, and managed to keep a talent deprived, injury ridden Flames team somewhat competitive, so yes, he is an quality NHL coach.

Ryan Murray I will give you though, as he's just not that good a player, and the Oilers are most certainly using this to scout him, and hopefully will decide to just stick with Yakupov. But it's not like he's doing any worse than Luke Schenn.

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Whatever, Canada's got a high pick in the next draft so he's doing his job right... or something...

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While I agree that Lowe is in general a moron, this result wasn't his fault. He pieced together the best team he could.

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What are you talking about! They didn't place last

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He took hopkins over spezza fwitw

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Maybe in the future they should ask well in advance for players who are interested in playing the WHC to submit letters of interest/commitment. Then Hockey Canada will know who they have to draw from. It would save HC a lot of time not having to ask this player and then that player if they want to play. They will know who is interested and they can decide if they want them or not.

If a player who has submitted a letter of interest gets injured and cannot play or wants to withdraw they can.

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What are you talking about! They didn't place last
Does that mean Canada doesn't get a lottery pick?

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I don't know what Team Canada "reeked of" throughout the tournament, but today's performance sure reminded me of the Calgary Flames the last few years - snoozy beginning, erratic in their own zone, constant brainfarts with the lead late in the game, the works.

Now, why might that be...?

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He took hopkins over spezza fwitw
Stop making up lies.

Ottawa made the playoffs. The decision to get RNH happened long before Spezza became available.

I thought Spezza should have been recalled too, but that has nothing to do with them taking RNH.

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Name an Oiler on that team that had a bad tourney. This was arguably one of the best forward groups they brought to the tournament in several years.

Their defence sucked. None of them were Oilers.
Oilers are so bad that Bouwmeester didn't get enough practice against real opposition, therefore he wasn't ready for the tournament.

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how lowe has held any management job for this long is beyond me

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