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05-12-2012, 10:05 PM
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What about Orlov?
Who knows... It depends on what the Russian coaching staff believes, if they believe Dale Hunters side of why not to put Orlov in, then not a chance in hell. He got scratched the entire playoffs for one turn over in the last game of the season.

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05-12-2012, 10:35 PM
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Will Russia call Ovechkin&Semin now?
If they can, they're definitly going to call Ovechkin.

They don't seem to like semin as much though....

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05-12-2012, 11:48 PM
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If they can, they're definitly going to call Ovechkin.

They don't seem to like semin as much though....
They don't like him as much, but they still like him- from one of their recent interviews. They'll still invite him if they can.

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05-13-2012, 07:47 AM
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Confirmed, both Ovechkin & Syomin will join the team.
They will play in the quaterfinals.

http://www.sovsport.ru/news/text-item/526505

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Confirmed, both Ovechkin & Syomin will join the team.
They will play in the quaterfinals.

http://www.sovsport.ru/news/text-item/526505
Who is going to be replaced? Maybe Popov, Kulemin, Ketov or Kokarev?

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Its hard to say for the moment. maybe kokarev & ketov

ps: burmistrov & tarasenko went home...

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05-13-2012, 07:53 AM
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Ovechkin - Malkin - Perezhogin
Kuznetsov- Datsyuk - Semin
Zherdev - Tereschenko - Shirokov
Kokarev - Svitov - Kulemin

Popov and Ketov are out. I hate to take out Popov because he was been good with Malkin, but I think Ovechkin has to play in that position.

Defense remains the weak link. Why don't they not invite Orlov?

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05-13-2012, 07:57 AM
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Its hard to say for the moment. maybe kokarev & ketov

ps: burmistrov & tarasenko went home...
I would have replaced Tereschenko with Burmistrov. I think 27 is by far the weakest centerman in this team.

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05-13-2012, 08:02 AM
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Popov will stay of course... So will Tereschenko

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Semin is not really needed in this team IMHO

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05-13-2012, 08:04 AM
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there is no more place for orlov. for example bilyaletdinov did not pick Max Chudinov, a young and very skills d-man, so i think orlov was never on his list.

ps: Ovechkin & Syomin will join the team on wednesday

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05-13-2012, 08:09 AM
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there is no more place for orlov.[/B]
They should have invited Orlov instead of Semin considering the lack of defensemen during the next three games.

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05-13-2012, 08:13 AM
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They should have invited Orlov instead of Semin considering the lack of defensemen during the next three games.
Orlov would only probably be ready for the QF game, and he is a giant ?.

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05-13-2012, 08:24 AM
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Unfortunate that they are not going to try Orlov. A lot of coaches prefer more experienced players though. If they're going to mix up the lines, I'd really like to see Kulemin with Malkin ... they've done well together before. And of course the purely selfish hope that Shero will see how well they play together and acquire him from Toronto

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Semin is not really needed in this team IMHO
neither is ovechkin, but he'll help

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I would have replaced Tereschenko with Burmistrov. I think 27 is by far the weakest centerman in this team.
He is a faceoff specialist and a great 2 way player. Most people don't understand his game, but Bill has him there for a very very good reason. If you watch him, he can destroy attacks and cover for Defenseman. He's not going to do a lot offensively, but that's not why he's there.

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Ovechkin - Malkin - Semin
Kuznetsov - Datsyuk - Kulemin
Zherdev - Tereschenko - Shirokov
Popov - Svitov - Perezhogin

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05-13-2012, 08:38 AM
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Ketov, Kokarev play importnat Balance roles. So substituning them for Ovi and Syomin will not make much sense strategically.

Shirokov and Zherdev on the other hand, have similar roles and have been OK at doing them, but not Great. Ovi and Syomin can logically take over their roles.

It's a very tough call though, because the team they have now is good. I'm not convinced that these guys can just walk in and be better.

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05-13-2012, 08:40 AM
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Ovechkin - Malkin - Semin
Kuznetsov - Datsyuk - Kulemin
Zherdev - Tereschenko - Shirokov
Popov - Svitov - Perezhogin
Malkin is on fire, there is no reason to break his line just because the names are coming. Let alone Ovechkin didn't do much at WC past couple of years.

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I think it is a retarded idea to bring players that late in the tournament.

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05-13-2012, 08:42 AM
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Malkin is on fire, there is no reason to break his line just because the names are coming. Let alone Ovechkin didn't do much at WC past couple of years.
this

there are a lot of reasons why O&S might fail. Different ice, acclimatization, team chemistry, tired after PO, unfamiliar with Bill's tactics...

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05-13-2012, 08:43 AM
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I think it is a retarded idea to bring players that late in the tournament.
It would make more sense if Ovi was the beast that he was 2 years ago. Unfortunately, that's not the case.

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I think it is a retarded idea to bring players that late in the tournament.
agree. i would think they are dead tired now and ovechkin has always been atrocious in the national team. i dont see any reason why this time he will be different.

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05-13-2012, 09:59 AM
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agree. i would think they are dead tired now and ovechkin has always been atrocious in the national team. i dont see any reason why this time he will be different.
I wouldn't say atrocious, but not as good as he could be. He still scored goals and assisted in the past, just not to his full capacity. Not to mention the Olympic Go ahead goal in 2006 against Canadians.

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Ovechkin should be put with Datsyuk, Malkin's line has been killing it while Datsyuk's line has been silent so it can't hurt to put Ovechkin with him.

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