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03-26-2012, 02:10 PM
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So basically this first camp is a slection process whereby they want to see who if any of the SEL "vets" invited MERITS consideration for the team finally to be selected (is there a Final Selection Camp or will they just name the team just before the WC tournament?)...OBVIOUSLY there are:

1. OTHER SEL vets still playing in the playoffs who could be on that team or invited to final selection camp if there is one) --so you have players from the 4 teams still in the SEL playoffs....PLUS you have players from the 2 bottom SEL teams competing in the Qualification for the SEL playoffs against the top 4 Allsvenksan teams to determine which of these 6 will make it to the SEL for next season (they are through 5 games each of this process so far)--so for instance djurgardins is one of the 2 sEL teams involved in this Qualification Series --and surely JAKOB SILFVERBERG could be selected for that final Sweden WC team...


2. You have Swedish NHL'ers who will be available ( those not involved in NHL layoffs AND those whose teams get eliminated in playoffs before the WC starts)..


ADD up all the possibilities from 1 and 2 --and you see there is hardly any chance at all that anyone from the Selection Camp #1 roster of invitees is going to actually be on that Swedish WC squad..Marts may wnt to see who from this Camp shines enough to merit any consideration in case:

i) too many NHL Swedes begg "off" due to the usual reasons: injuries/not 100% health --or the long grind of the NHL season--so too tired--physically or mentally to want to compete for country ..
(probably not too many will beg off using these excuses but,if he is just 1 player short of a full roster--nice to know he has a reserve in place who proved at this camp he could fill the role adequayely).


ii) he finds his roster too "old" and needs 'tweeners" --that is players with 2 or more years of SEL experience who he wants to "develop" for future Swedish WC squads..because IF he just went with the really older SEL vets and NHL'ers hemight if short just 1 or 2 depth role guys --have to rely on perhaps a too young and not ready Jr. with little SEL and no NHL experience ....so instead he wants a pool of
22-25 year olds who he can develop into more WC SEL very experirenced vets that he would draw on in later years as the older vets he puts on the team NOW get too old for the team in a few years...so better to add 1 or 2 of these tweener (in age) SEL guys ,such that doing this every year in 3 years he will have 3-6 guys ready to replace 306 SEL older vets he has NOW who get top consideration for his WC team..



So whether the reasons are due to too many refusals by NHL'ers OR for developing is SEL pool of ore experienced but not too old SEL vets--- he could select 1 or 2 of the guys from this camp to be depth players on the WC roster ...

My guess would be that most of his WC squad willbe NHL'ers,maybe 3-5 are from the SEL ,and of these SEL guys, only 1 is from this selection camp --given a depth spot as a reward for going to this camp and shining there above anyone else there.
So unless nobody at this camp stands out to deserve that last spot on the final WC team,somebody probably does enough to get rewarded with that final roster spot for the World Championship team Sweden will send to that tournament. i think they would want to give a purpose to this selection camp even though everyone knows almost everyone there will not be on the final team...IF they held these camps every year and absolutely nobody at camp was named to the Final WC team (or at least invited to a Final selection camp-if they hold such) -THEN the point of these selection camps is seen as an exercise in wasting time -these players might as wellbe on vacation early... So i do think they must reward at least 1 guy for his attendance at this very long odds of "making it" camp...

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03-26-2012, 03:11 PM
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^ You're right, this is much of a development camp. A couple vets but also youngish guys that can contribute in the not so distant future. Marts likes to educate his players, get them to buy into his system, and try to make them better over time. Many of them have played for Team Sweden before. Also Team 18/19 guys(perhaps not the most promising ones but guys that could be possibles aswell in a few years time) get valuable experience. We'll see if any of the SEL players on that list makes it. It's highly doubtful. Kronwall(KHL) has a good shot, he's been a steady guy on the National team this season and played last year too. Guys like Enterfeldt and Rasmussen are probably happy just to be invited. Ersberg could be a World Champs backup depending on what's available. From North America, only Lundqvist would be the clear-cut starter over Fasth imo.

A couple(probably not all) of them will also get to play in the Czech hockey games(4-nations tournament) and/or other exhibition games. Sweden will play 10 games in total before the World Champs and new players will come in as they get elimated from the SEL/KHL/NHL/AHL post-seasons.

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03-26-2012, 10:08 PM
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That has obviously to do with his position as defenseman. If he was a winger he would score his points in a different way. Note: I am not saying that he should be a forward.
I thnik he's way more valuable this way.....he's a borderline PPG player and most of his points are scored frmo 50 feet or farther from the net.

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03-27-2012, 08:53 AM
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Roster vs Norway:

Code:
31 GK Forsberg Anton MODO Hockey SWE 27.11.92 Stockholm 190 83 L
40 GK Ersberg Erik Salavat Yulaev Ufa RUS 08.03.82 Sala 182 73 L

3 D Dahlbeck Klas Linköpings HC SWE 06.07.91 Katrineholm 189 93 L
4 D Kronwall Staffan Severstal Cherepovets RUS 10.09.82 Stockholm 195 105 L
6 D Gunnarsson Daniel Luleå HF SWE 15.04.92 Köping 193 87 R
7 D Tömmernes Henrik Frölunda HC SWE 28.08.90 Karlstad 185 83 L
8 D Bäckman Mattias Linköpings HC SWE 03.10.92 Linköping 188 77 L
25 D Karlsson Mattias HV 71 SWE 15.04.85 Storå 190 99 L
51 D Ahnelöv Jonas MODO Hockey SWE 11.12.87 Stockholm 190 97 L

9 F Enterfeldt Sebastian Luleå HF SWE 22.05.88 Gävle 181 90 L
11 F Hjalmarsson Simon Luleå HF SWE 01.02.89 Värnamo 184 78 L
12 F Pettersson Fredrik Frölunda HC SWE 10.06.87 Göteborg 178 83 R
14 F Rasmussen Dennis Växjö Lakers HC SWE 03.07.90 Västerås 191 91 L
16 F Axelsson Dick MODO Hockey SWE 25.04.87 Stockholm 191 93 L
18 F Bergfors Niclas Severstal Cherepovets RUS 07.03.87 Södertälje 179 88 R
20 F Lundqvist Joel Frölunda HC SWE 02.03.82 Åre 184 91 L
22 F Figren Robin Linköpings HC SWE 07.03.88 Stockholm 180 82 R
23 F Persson Niklas CSKA Moscow RUS 26.03.79 Nynäshamn 188 93 L
24 F Harju Johan Luleå HF SWE 15.05.86 Övertorneå 190 95 L
26 F Olausson Niklas Luleå HF SWE 12.05.86 Väckelsång 184 87 L
28 F Fasth Jesper HV 71 SWE 02.12.91 Nässjö 182 80 R
44 F Danielsson Nicklas MODO Hockey SWE 07.12.84 Uppsala 184 83 R

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Decent team. Will the games be on TV?


Possible lineup..


Axelsson - Persson - Bergfors
Danielsson - Harju - Hjalmarsson
Pettersson - Lundqvist - Fasth
Rasmussen - Enterfeldt - Figren


Karlsson - Kronwall
Tömmernes - Dahlbeck
Ahnelöv - Bäckman


Ersberg


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Jonas Gustavsson & Carl Gunnarsson do we want em?

Mårts wants to bring in Omark on try out.

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03-29-2012, 02:20 AM
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Gunnarsson, yes


Gustavsson and Omark, no

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03-29-2012, 11:55 AM
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Jonas Gustavsson & Carl Gunnarsson do we want em?

Mårts wants to bring in Omark on try out.
I see it as a given to bring Omark in for Czech hockey games. But I have much higher hopes for the final roster when a playoff round or two are played.

Definitely want Gunnarsson. Gunnarsson, Hedman, Enström are done and Ekman-Larsson could be done within a week. Do want.

Enström-Karlsson
Hedman-Ekman-Larsson
Gunnarsson-Ekholm
S.Kronwall

Give me that sort of defense.

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With all the players Nashviille acquired at the trading deadline and Radulov they might actually be the favorites against the Red Wings. Not to mention they have more points and might be the home team in game 1. Good for us.

Possible team:

Eriksson
Landeskog Järnkrok Silfverberg
Thörnberg Mårtensson Weinhandl
Pääjärvi Lundqvist Ericsson
Andersson Danielsson

Ekholm Enström
Hedman
Gunnarsson Kronwall

Fasth
Enroth

------------------------------------.

Possible first round losers:

Karlsson Larsson
Lidström Kronwall
Ekman-Larsson Hjalmarsson

Bäckström Alfredsson
Zetterberg Franzén
Krüger

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Don´t forget about Loui.

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Would love to see E.Karlsson and G.Landeskog bringing it. Two NHL top rookies for the win

Why not mixing them up with Lidström and Alfredsson to!

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With all the players Nashviille acquired at the trading deadline and Radulov they might actually be the favorites against the Red Wings. Not to mention they have more points and might be the home team in game 1. Good for us.

Possible team:

Eriksson
Landeskog Järnkrok Silfverberg
Thörnberg Mårtensson Weinhandl
Pääjärvi Lundqvist Ericsson
Andersson Danielsson

Ekholm Enström
Hedman
Gunnarsson Kronwall

Fasth
Enroth

------------------------------------.

Possible first round losers:

Karlsson Larsson
Lidström Kronwall
Ekman-Larsson Hjalmarsson

Bäckström Alfredsson
Zetterberg Franzén
Krüger
If Chicago have a early exit, I wouldn't mind Stålberg, 20 goals without PP-time is impressive, he got speed is a big body and can score.

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If Chicago have a early exit, I wouldn't mind Stålberg, 20 goals without PP-time is impressive, he got speed is a big body and can score.
Half a point per game playing with top players in Chicago is a question mark. Size and speed works for him, though. We'll see. We must have some players in place before the WC starts and Thörnberg is a strong candidate. And we know what Pääjärvi might add.

HEDMAN says YES to WC!

http://www.aftonbladet.se/sportblade...cle14623920.ab

Other players with strong seasons are Kronwall, Gunnarsson, Ekholm and Fasth. To be a forward on this team will be fun.


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Don't think we'll see any red wing's players there tho, they'll never miss the playoffs.

Hedman is welcome 10/10 times

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As long as DRW gets 4 home games against Nashville, I dont think DRW will lose.

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As long as DRW gets 4 home games against Nashville, I dont think DRW will lose.
Detroit will be ousted in the second round regardless. We'll see a few Wings in Stockholm for sure.


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Half a point per game playing with top players in Chicago is a question mark. Size and speed works for him, though. We'll see. We must have some players in place before the WC starts and Thörnberg is a strong candidate. And we know what Pääjärvi might add.

HEDMAN says YES to WC!

http://www.aftonbladet.se/sportblade...cle14623920.ab

Other players with strong seasons are Kronwall, Gunnarsson, Ekholm and Fasth. To be a forward on this team will be fun.
Thats not 100% true, he has bounced around the lines, played a lot with Krüger who isn't exactly a top player in Chicago. Ninth in scoring among the swedish forwards in NHL, works in a grinder line too.

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Phoenix has a pretty favorable schedule left, so there's a chance we have to wait a playoff round for OEL.

Extremely important game for Loui and Dallas tonight against SJ. Dallas also has NSH and STL left, hard sched. If they lose tonight I'd say they're done.

Would be fun to see some NHL players in the Czech hockey games and it feels like there will be quite a few of them.

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core:

Eriksson
Landeskog Silfverberg
Mårtensson

Hedman
Ekholm
Kronwall

Fasth


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As long as DRW gets 4 home games against Nashville, I dont think DRW will lose.
No, but a WC team IN Sweden with Alfredsson and Lidström finishing their careers with agold medal is a thrilling scenario.

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core:

Eriksson
Landeskog Silfverberg
Mårtensson

Hedman
Ekholm
Gunnarsson - Pha...Kronwall

"8" Fasth
I would have to think Persson is a core player over Mårtensson, even if it's on the 3rd o 4th line. Tony had 4 points in 15 playoff games aswell.. maybe he's injured.

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Possible team to Czech Hockey Games.



Hedman - Enström
- Kronwall
Ekholm - Frögren



Eriksson - Johansson - Landeskog
MPS - Bäckström - Omark
Ullström - Wandell - Silfverberg
Pettersson - Lundqvist - Danielsson


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Gunnarsson separated shoulder.. so we can scratch him.

I think your defense is pretty spot on other than that landskronala. If no other NHL D gets here for Czech hockey game, I guess he will keep the standouts in the upcoming exhos.

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An overview on how the WC roster is shaping up:


Current team:
G Anton Forsberg - MODO
G Erik Ersberg - Salavat Yulaev

D Klas Dahlbeck - Linköping
D Staffan Kronwall - Severstal
D Daniel Fernholm - HIFK
D Daniel Gunnarsson - Luleå
D Henrik Tömmernes - Frölunda
D Mattias Bäckman - Linköping
D Mattias Karlsson - HV71
D Jonas Ahnelöv - MODO

F Sebastian Enterfeldt - Luleå
F Simon Hjalmarsson - Luleå
F Fredrik Pettersson - Frölunda
F Dennis Rasmussen - Växjö
F Dick Axelsson - MODO
F Niclas Bergfors - Severstal
F Joel Lundqvist - Frölunda
F Robin Figren - Linköping
F Niklas Persson - CSKA
F Johan Harju - Luleå
F Niklas Olausson - Luleå
F Jesper Fasth - HV71
F Nicklas Danielsson - MODO

Declined invitations:
G Johan Gustafsson - Luleå *injury

D Magnus Johansson - Linköping *lack of motivation
D Elias Fälth - Luleå *injury
D Christian Bäckman - Frölunda *injury

F Andreas Jämtin - Linköping *lack of motivaiton
F Carl Söderberg - Linköping *injury
F Mattias Ritola - MODO *injury
F Magnus Kahnberg - Frölunda *injury

Possible additions, Europe (Players who have represented Sweden in a EHT tournament this year):
G Viktor Fasth - AIK
G Gustaf Wesslau - Djurgården
G Joacim Eriksson - Skellefteå

D Jonas Brodin - Färjestad
D Simon Bertilsson - Brynäs
D Jonas Frögren - Färjestad
D Tobias Viklund - AIK
D Mattias Ekholm - Brynäs

F Tony Mårtensson - St. Petersburg
F Mattias Weinhandl - St. Petersburg
F Calle Järnkrok - Brynäs
F Jacob Silfverberg - Brynäs
F Mattias Sjögren - Färjestad
F Robert Rosén - AIK
F Mikael Johansson - Färjestad
F Patrik Lundh - Färjestad

Notable players whose teams have been knocked out a while ago and not present in current roster for unknown reasons, not invited?
D David Petrasek - HV71

F Patrik Zackrisson - Atalant
F Martin Thörnberg - Torpedo Nizhny Novogorod
F Jonas Andersson - Atlant

Possible additons, NHL (Players whose teams might miss playoffs):
G Jhonas Enroth - Buffalo
G Jonas Gustavsson - Toronto
G Henrik Karlsson - Calgary

D Tobias Enström - Winnipeg
D Victor Hedman - Tampa Bay *will reportadly accept if invited
D Mattias Öhlund - Tampa Bay *injured, out for season
D Carl GUnnarsson - Toronto *left game tonight, injured?
D Oliver Ekman-Larsson - Phoenix
D Douglas Murray - San Jose

F Mikael Samuelsson - Florida
F Nicklas Bäckström - Washington
F Marcus Johansson - Washington
F Loui Eriksson - Dallas
F Tom Wandell - Dallas
F Gabriel Landeskog - Colorado
F Mikael Backlund - Calgary *injured
F Linus Omark - Edmonton *reportedly offered tryout on team
F Kristian Huselius - Columbus *injured, out for season

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Gunnarsson is out 100%
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All 64 games will be broadcast in TV4 channels.

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