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Brad Boyes

What was the consensus on this guy? Like or didn't like? I don't recall what was thought about him here during his time in Boston. I always liked him because he was great in Providence, but he played on that horrible Dave Lewis team and I think it killed any chance for his potential. Plus we got Wideman for him, which I hated.

I only ask because I noticed the Buffalo fans are about to riot after not making the playoffs, and some are taking it out on him when he hardly played due to injury. Obviously, he was supposed to be a big part of their success and it didn't come to be.

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What was the consensus on this guy? Like or didn't like? I don't recall what was thought about him here during his time in Boston. I always liked him because he was great in Providence, but he played on that horrible Dave Lewis team and I think it killed any chance for his potential. Plus we got Wideman for him, which I hated.

I only ask because I noticed the Buffalo fans are about to riot after not making the playoffs, and some are taking it out on him when he hardly played due to injury. Obviously, he was supposed to be a big part of their success and it didn't come to be.
Bergy, Boyes and Sturm were the bright spot after the Thornton trade. Lewis broke them up because he wanted it to be HIS team. Boyes was in Lewis' doghouse...wish we'd shipped out Lewis instead!

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Boyes was entertaining but he was completely allergic to the neutral and defensive zones. Lewis got that one absolutely right......Moving Boyes even for Jilllson, was a good idea.

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Bergy, Boyes and Sturm were the bright spot after the Thornton trade. Lewis broke them up because he wanted it to be HIS team. Boyes was in Lewis' doghouse...wish we'd shipped out Lewis instead!
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With the Bruins, Boyes was okay. He had a good first year, 26 goals and 69 points, was a non factor the second year (the Lewis Error) with 13 goals and 34 points. He was atrocious in his own end, as was that entire team.

I never saw him as being more than just a complimentary player. He needs good players around him to be good. By himself, he's not going to carry a team or dominate.

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Boyes was entertaining but he was completely allergic to the neutral and defensive zones. Lewis got that one absolutely right......Moving Boyes even for Jilllson, was a good idea.
your facts are a bit mixed up. We traded Jillson for Boyes (actually a 3 way deal) not the other way around.

Chiarelli who fired Lewis by the way, made the trade to get Wideman.

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With the Bruins, Boyes was okay. He had a good first year, 26 goals and 69 points, was a non factor the second year (the Lewis Error) with 13 goals and 34 points. He was atrocious in his own end, as was that entire team.

I never saw him as being more than just a complimentary player. He needs good players around him to be good. By himself, he's not going to carry a team or dominate.
26 goals and 69 points is a great rookie season. he's also got a 40+ goal season in St. Louis. He's a good offensive player but very inconsistent. The trade for Wideman was a good trade for both teams.

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Boyes was entertaining but he was completely allergic to the neutral and defensive zones. Lewis got that one absolutely right......Moving Boyes even for Jilllson, was a good idea.
I liked Brad Boyes and whatever his defensive liabilities, at least he could score. I suppose you could say we got Nathan Horton out of all that, but a bit of a stretch.

OT: Wow. Jeff Jillson. In the KHL now. That year with Lewis was the worst year I've experienced as a Bruins fan. Missed the '60s so I can't speak to that, but have been around for everything else. I was shocked at how utterly inept and lifeless they'd become.

Being a Bruins fan from 1991 to 2007 was a lonesome, soul killing business. SO GLAD, *so relieved* that Sinden and OC are gone, baby, gone.

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your facts are a bit mixed up. We traded Jillson for Boyes (actually a 3 way deal) not the other way around.

Chiarelli who fired Lewis by the way, made the trade to get Wideman.
^ Yep.

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I really liked Boyes when he was here and was angry when he got traded. Looking back, I think I was more overrating him based on how bad the team was back then. He really was quite terrible in his own end...

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soft floater. Never liked him, except that one season where he, Bergeron and Sturm lit it up.

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your facts are a bit mixed up. We traded Jillson for Boyes (actually a 3 way deal) not the other way around.

Chiarelli who hired Lewis by the way, made the trade to get Wideman.
Fixed it for ya! j/k Nobody's perfect and would take Chia as my GM any day

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The trade was the right thing to do. Wideman for all his flaws had a far more net positive impact on this team when he was here than Boyes did.

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What was the consensus on this guy? Like or didn't like? I don't recall what was thought about him here during his time in Boston. I always liked him because he was great in Providence, but he played on that horrible Dave Lewis team and I think it killed any chance for his potential. Plus we got Wideman for him, which I hated.

I only ask because I noticed the Buffalo fans are about to riot after not making the playoffs, and some are taking it out on him when he hardly played due to injury. Obviously, he was supposed to be a big part of their success and it didn't come to be.
Next to no production at a $4 million cap hit tends to make people testy.

And yeah, the Bruins got Wideman for him, but then they traded Wideman for Horton and Campbell, so the ultimate return was a positive.

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your facts are a bit mixed up. We traded Jillson for Boyes (actually a 3 way deal) not the other way around.

Chiarelli who fired Lewis by the way, made the trade to get Wideman.
You are obviously right about the trade. Thanks for the correction, but I remember reading a few things that Lewis did have very little use for Boyes.....have to give him credit for that. How could I forget the trade that brought us the great Wideman?...It was done right at or after the deadline too...I think the longterm memory is starting to go.............

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At least, that's Buffalo's problem now.

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He wasn't put in situations to succeed, but he looked like he couldn't give a damn. He never complained though and always looked to be having fun on the bench, too bad it didn't work out, I liked the guy.

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Pure speculation but I had heard he had some issues in the locker room.

Floater, couldn't understand the 2-way game system.

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I mostly think of Rob Simpson's song he made up with the theme to Cops.

Boyes turned into Horton eventually. That was cool.

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This was what came to mind for me as well. Both guys who can be invisible for a good portion of the game then put up a nifty point or two before the final horn. Had some nice years hear and a couple of nice one's with St. Louis but has really fallen off the past 3 years.

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soft floater. Never liked him, except that one season where he, Bergeron and Sturm lit it up.
He was like Ryder minus the physical aspect that Rydes brought when he was motivated in the floater dept.

This team is in a position now that it`s players like Boyes they aren`t having to attract/overpay, players actually, totally assuming here, would have Boston on their radar`s as a destination.

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I always liked him. He played well in Providence, just didn't seem to develop enough in Boston to stick around. He seems to be doing well with his team now. So many times that happens. A guy plays well in Providence and it just doesn't translate over to the big club. They get traded and go back on fire with another NHL team. Seen it with Versteeg, Nate Thompson(somewhat decent)

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What was the consensus on this guy? Like or didn't like? I don't recall what was thought about him here during his time in Boston. I always liked him because he was great in Providence, but he played on that horrible Dave Lewis team and I think it killed any chance for his potential. Plus we got Wideman for him, which I hated.

I only ask because I noticed the Buffalo fans are about to riot after not making the playoffs, and some are taking it out on him when he hardly played due to injury. Obviously, he was supposed to be a big part of their success and it didn't come to be.
Must we go back to the wonderful days of Dave Lewis? Boyes was a non factor here and will always put up decent numbers on lousy teams. Don't need to see him no more.

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He was like Ryder minus the physical aspect that Rydes brought when he was motivated in the floater dept.

This team is in a position now that it`s players like Boyes they aren`t having to attract/overpay, players actually, totally assuming here, would have Boston on their radar`s as a destination.
Julien would not ,and did not, tolerate a physically weak floater like Boyes i n a billion years...never. As for not being desperate enough to take guys like him, right now I would agree, but I dont think free agent signings are a strength of Chia's so be careful with that assertion.

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I always liked him. He played well in Providence, just didn't seem to develop enough in Boston to stick around. He seems to be doing well with his team now. So many times that happens. A guy plays well in Providence and it just doesn't translate over to the big club. They get traded and go back on fire with another NHL team. Seen it with Versteeg, Nate Thompson(somewhat decent)
NOPE.

He has been awful this year. 6 goals. He was a former 40 goal scorer. He is probably part of the reason the Sabres underachieved this year.

The only positive quality of his game at the moment are shootouts I believe.

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