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11-30-2004, 03:59 PM
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I suppose that could be addressed through trade/FA, and I am a huge proponent of building from the net out, but I also really like Brule and think he could be an elite #1 center, which are pretty hard to get as well.

Either way it's a tough decision, so let's hope we don't have to make it.
Right now, they do seem to be dead-even. The Pens would, IMO, side with Brule simply because he fits more of a need.

Not to take anything away from Johnson's nasty disposition, but from what I gather Brule is more than just a chippy hockey player. I've heard comparisons to Wendell Clark. I love the sounds of that.

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Right now, they do seem to be dead-even. The Pens would, IMO, side with Brule simply because he fits more of a need.

Not to take anything away from Johnson's nasty disposition, but from what I gather Brule is more than just a chippy hockey player. I've heard comparisons to Wendell Clark. I love the sounds of that.
Yep he's just as nasty as Clark and takes on everyone. I would say that he's more skilled though. The thing that scares me is that like Clark he might only play in 30-40 games a year. If he curbs his zest for the game I'm not sure if he can be the same player.

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I would have to go with Brule.

It is not a forgone conclusion that the Pens will be able to get Malkin out of Russia anytime soon,...if at all. That said, Brule might be the Pens only O prospect for quite some time.

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After watching the WHL All-Stars last night take on the Russian Selects in the last game of the 6 game series, The WHL head coach gave Gilbert Brule a shot in the starting line-up.
Not even 3 minuites into the game Brule rang 1 shot of the post had a clean amazing open ice hit, and his defence was just amazing. Iam really likeing this guy and I can't wait to see who we get.

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Every one of the top 3 projected picks sounds awfully sweet.

 
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After watching the WHL All-Stars last night take on the Russian Selects in the last game of the 6 game series, The WHL head coach gave Gilbert Brule a shot in the starting line-up.
Not even 3 minuites into the game Brule rang 1 shot of the post had a clean amazing open ice hit, and his defence was just amazing. Iam really likeing this guy and I can't wait to see who we get.

Now does everyone see why i don't really care to pick Crosby, i like how Brule plays and since the NHL lock out is on i've been actually going to all my Vancouver Giants home games unlike last year when i went to half.

The guy is a treat to watch, he hits, he scores, he's a playmaker. He's not as small as people think he is. Crosby yeah he is talented, but Brule is more of a complete package and could stand up for himself.

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I also want to mention that Brule was nailed pretty hard in an open ice hit and he got back up. Now if that was Crosby, he'd be out or injured, Brule is tough lil bugger.

If the penguins don't draft him, the team that does is one VERY lucky team.

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Now does everyone see why i don't really care to pick Crosby, i like how Brule plays and since the NHL lock out is on i've been actually going to all my Vancouver Giants home games unlike last year when i went to half.

The guy is a treat to watch, he hits, he scores, he's a playmaker. He's not as small as people think he is. Crosby yeah he is talented, but Brule is more of a complete package and could stand up for himself.
While I have seen Brule and Crosby, I'm guessing that it hasn't been as much as you (seeing that you're from Canada). Are you not that high on Crosby, overly high on Brule, or a little of both? I was thinking that the Crosby/Brule gap is a little like the Lemieux/Muller gap. Not that I think that Crosby will be another Lemieux or Gretzky type of a star but IMO he could be an Yzerman or Lafontaine type. As for Brule, the few times I've watched him play, you can almost tell that he's going to be a good one (my question to those who have seen him more is how good). He has NHL sense and an great, great shot. I've heard people call him a shooters Bobby Clark to a Kirk Muller. How high end would you rate his skills?

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While I have seen Brule and Crosby, I'm guessing that it hasn't been as much as you (seeing that you're from Canada). Are you not that high on Crosby, overly high on Brule, or a little of both? I was thinking that the Crosby/Brule gap is a little like the Lemieux/Muller gap. Not that I think that Crosby will be another Lemieux or Gretzky type of a star but IMO he could be an Yzerman or Lafontaine type. As for Brule, the few times I've watched him play, you can almost tell that he's going to be a good one (my question to those who have seen him more is how good). He has NHL sense and an great, great shot. I've heard people call him a shooters Bobby Clark to a Kirk Muller. How high end would you rate his skills?
Well I have seen them both play at least 3 or 4 times each. IMO I believe that Brule would be better for the PENS only because were getting week on the Right side, where as we have Malkin as a future #1 Center already Crosby dosen't really fit into our plans. If by chance the PENS were to win the lottery and obtain the #1 overall pick, I wouldn't be dissipointed if we traded down to the #2 and get Brule, but Crosby would be a traet to have and with Malkin and Crosby in a PENS uniform in the future just mught be what the PENS need to fill the Mellon Arena.
I would Rate Crosby as a Greatzky type scorer, with patience and a hell of a lot of skill...although a bunch of enforcers would be needed to save his butt day in and day out. One current player in the NHL Crosby reminds me of is Jason Spezza.
As fro Brule he has the size, he has the skill, and he has the hands of a Lemieux. He also reminds me of Nic Zheredev type player.

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Brule, you don't need Johnson your D is already stacked. I understand that you think that you need a sure-fire number one, but Johnson is a prospect. Also, Brule would address a bigger problem.

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As fro Brule he has the size, he has the skill, and he has the hands of a Lemieux. He also reminds me of Nic Zheredev type player.[/QUOTE]

How does Brule have the size of Lemieux?
I've never seen him live but everyone has him listed at 5ft. 10in. - 5ft. 11in. and weighing about 175 to 180lbs., while as a rookie Mario was like 6ft. 3in weighing about 210 - 215 lbs.
That's like 4 or 5 inches and like 30 to 35 lbs. difference.

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You have to go with Brule. This guy has bigtime skills and also plays a physical game. He has the ability to beat guys to the net but at time just to send a message it seems, he will drive to the net through a guy. He isn't a heavyweight but is willing and able to drop the gloves. I like Johnson but he is a bit overhyped here at HF.

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As fro Brule he has the size, he has the skill, and he has the hands of a Lemieux. He also reminds me of Nic Zheredev type player.
Size of Lemieux? A Zherdev-type player? Are we talking about the same Gilbert Brule here?


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Size of Lemieux? A Zherdev-type player? Are we talking about the same Gilbert Brule here?


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Size of Lemieux? A Zherdev-type player? Are we talking about the same Gilbert Brule here?


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I'm pretty sure that he was talking about Lemieuxs hands and the skill of Zherdev. Even though he brings a ton more grit. Johnson is a player that I have never seen. People make him sound like the second coming of Denis Potvin. How would you guys rate his skating, hand skills, and sense? And please do some comparisons to Cam Barker and Dion Phaneuf.

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Well I have seen them both play at least 3 or 4 times each. IMO I believe that Brule would be better for the PENS only because were getting week on the Right side, where as we have Malkin as a future #1 Center already Crosby dosen't really fit into our plans. If by chance the PENS were to win the lottery and obtain the #1 overall pick, I wouldn't be dissipointed if we traded down to the #2 and get Brule, but Crosby would be a traet to have and with Malkin and Crosby in a PENS uniform in the future just mught be what the PENS need to fill the Mellon Arena.
I would Rate Crosby as a Greatzky type scorer, with patience and a hell of a lot of skill...although a bunch of enforcers would be needed to save his butt day in and day out. One current player in the NHL Crosby reminds me of is Jason Spezza.
As fro Brule he has the size, he has the skill, and he has the hands of a Lemieux. He also reminds me of Nic Zheredev type player.

No, Spezza can drop the gloves and give out some pretty solid hits. So if your going to compare Brule or Crosby to Spezza it would be Brule. Brule does have a big time shot, for a guy his age he shoots like a young Sakic. Brule is a tough, talented, goalscoring player and well i am still sticking to Brule not budging a bit. Crosby yes he's lighting it up in the Q, but its been a while since a bonafide superstar player has come out of the Q and well Crosby is on the soft side and as people have mentioned we would have to add some enforcers to our team just so Crosby has the room to play. Even then an enforcer or 2 will get ejected or beaten and Crosby would be fair game and as a kid he's gonna get run over.

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No, Spezza can drop the gloves and give out some pretty solid hits. So if your going to compare Brule or Crosby to Spezza it would be Brule. Brule does have a big time shot, for a guy his age he shoots like a young Sakic. Brule is a tough, talented, goalscoring player and well i am still sticking to Brule not budging a bit. Crosby yes he's lighting it up in the Q, but its been a while since a bonafide superstar player has come out of the Q and well Crosby is on the soft side and as people have mentioned we would have to add some enforcers to our team just so Crosby has the room to play. Even then an enforcer or 2 will get ejected or beaten and Crosby would be fair game and as a kid he's gonna get run over.
a shooter [brule] would be great along side stone, and crosby would fit nicely with sgori please God i can't wait.

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a shooter [brule] would be great along side stone, and crosby would fit nicely with sgori please God i can't wait.
Frankly, I think any of Johnson, Brule, or Crosby on the Penguins would be great.

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Frankly, I think any of Johnson, Brule, or Crosby on the Penguins would be great.
Yes, thats the thing isn't it?

Above all else, I just hope the situation shakes out so that the Pens get to pick one of them.

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Above all else, I just hope the situation shakes out so that the Pens get to pick one of them.
Agreed. Just as long as the Caps don't get Crosby.

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Yes and that too.

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