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A strong PHX team in the playoffs may bring a new owner.

I'm currently watching Phoenix vs St-Louis and I'm seeing a blues team being outplayed by Phoenix. And since it's very probable that they'll play against each other in the first round I'm now putting my money on Phoenix. Yes it's speculation, but in the past two weeks Phoenix has showed a lot of domination on the ice, except the game against Columbus which was won entirely by Mike Smith, I think they'll get past the first round and who knows maybe the second.

If they do even throughout the whole turmoil with the city, I think they might attract a new owner. The only obstacle Phoenix has is a new owner that can take up the debt and the financing of the team without the city's involvement. It's a big obstacle, but the only solution for the survival of the team.

I want the Nordiques to come back and I really don't think Seattle is a threat and it's in fact only a cover-up for the league and an answer to protect their business dealings. Saying that Key Arena could be viable option is like saying they might as well move an NHL team in a ECHL facility. Seattle without the arena will not have an NHL team.

But if the Coyotes have success in the playoffs they will find a way to extend their survival. And I think a new owner might get interested.

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Seems to me the most likely first-round opponent for Phoenix is the six-seed, Chicago.

Unless the city decides to chip in the reminding $5M for this year and another $25M for next year, I'm not sure it will matter what the NHL "wants" to do.

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I'm currently watching Phoenix vs St-Louis and I'm seeing a blues team being outplayed by Phoenix. And since it's very probable that they'll play against each other in the first round I'm now putting my money on Phoenix. Yes it's speculation, but in the past two weeks Phoenix has showed a lot of domination on the ice, except the game against Columbus which was won entirely by Mike Smith, I think they'll get past the first round and who knows maybe the second.

If they do even throughout the whole turmoil with the city, I think they might attract a new owner. The only obstacle Phoenix has is a new owner that can take up the debt and the financing of the team without the city's involvement. It's a big obstacle, but the only solution for the survival of the team.

I want the Nordiques to come back and I really don't think Seattle is a threat and it's in fact only a cover-up for the league and an answer to protect their business dealings. Saying that Key Arena could be viable option is like saying they might as well move an NHL team in a ECHL facility. Seattle without the arena will not have an NHL team.

But if the Coyotes have success in the playoffs they will find a way to extend their survival. And I think a new owner might get interested.
Put the cap back on the glue bottle.They are done,there is no one stupid enough to buy this money sucking machine,except the nhl.

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I can't picture where a new owner would come from, but I would love to see the NHL navigate that.

The way the NHL has used, bullied and strung along the good people of Glendale, I think a strong playoff run would be fit and just.

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Really? Who in their right minds honestly would buy a team that has to give away playoff tickets? There is obviously no market there even when this is a good team... what does the NHL have to do? Hand them a cup? They just might

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]Seems to me the most likely first-round opponent for Phoenix is the six-seed, Chicago.
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Unless the city decides to chip in the reminding $5M for this year and another $25M for next year, I'm not sure it will matter what the NHL "wants" to do.
Maybe it will have to depend whether or not Phoenix wins tomorrow or not.

A new owner is the ultimate resolution and if Phoenix goes in the conference final, I think they'll attract one.

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So what happens if they do win the cup? A new owner is unlikely. The NHL has burned its bridges with Glendale. Does it then move the Stanley Cup champion, or reach into its own pocket to run the team?

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So what happens if they do win the cup? A new owner is unlikely. The NHL has burned its bridges with Glendale. Does it then move the Stanley Cup champion, or reach into its own pocket to run the team?
I think it will be likely and if they win the cup the news is going to go state-wide that they are being relocated. Chances that this whole thing is going to go into in a legal war, relocating a bad team that doesn't make the playoffs is one thing, relocating a good one is going to be a lot tougher.


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What are "the tribunals"?

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It won't bring a new owner but might delay the relocation. And a lot can happen in 1 year which could hurt Quebec bad.

The NHL surely took notice that the Jets we hard pressed until the exact season opener day and they had already the AHL in their arena. Quebec has nothing and they can't announce a relocation there after mid-May. It will be pure business suicide. The Jets relocation was announced near the end of May and they barely made it with "NHL" ready staff.

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The team has been on the market for almost 3 years. Everyone knows this team on the market and was open to any and all comers who were willing to keep the team in Glendale. An extended playoff run won't make someone go "you know I would like to own that team"

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I'm currently watching Phoenix vs St-Louis and I'm seeing a blues team being outplayed by Phoenix. And since it's very probable that they'll play against each other in the first round I'm now putting my money on Phoenix. Yes it's speculation, but in the past two weeks Phoenix has showed a lot of domination on the ice, except the game against Columbus which was won entirely by Mike Smith, I think they'll get past the first round and who knows maybe the second.

If they do even throughout the whole turmoil with the city, I think they might attract a new owner. The only obstacle Phoenix has is a new owner that can take up the debt and the financing of the team without the city's involvement. It's a big obstacle, but the only solution for the survival of the team.

I want the Nordiques to come back and I really don't think Seattle is a threat and it's in fact only a cover-up for the league and an answer to protect their business dealings. Saying that Key Arena could be viable option is like saying they might as well move an NHL team in a ECHL facility. Seattle without the arena will not have an NHL team.

But if the Coyotes have success in the playoffs they will find a way to extend their survival. And I think a new owner might get interested.

They proably have a deal in place with a new owner to relocate, they are waiting until April 15 because that is when the playoffs will be starting and all the attention will be on the playoffs.

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I was watching the game ( columbus vs phoenix ) on FS coyotes and Mike Nealy said that things really didn't look good. They are of course trying to promote the up-coming playoffs by giving away tickets with the buying of regular season tickets. But if the team really has success in the post-season it's clear that the spotlight over the team as the series advance will be on the relocation. And with the power of medias I don't it's far-fetched that maybe someone would come and become interested about purchasing the team, the league would probably try to ease the bill and it would take it off the city's budget. I don't think it's fair to say that all things are set yet in Phoenix only the future will tell.

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Honestly, I kind of hope it doesn't at this point.

If the Coyotes move, and the city sees a big wave of nostalgia for the club in, say, 15 years, when it's about time to build a new arena for the Suns, that means the ownership can work to get the arena designed to be NHL-compatible and bring hockey back in a climate with much more potential for success. I think hockey can work in Phoenix, but it has to be done in a very specific way, and that way does not include Glendale.

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The success or how the team plays on the ice is in no way related to having someone buy the team.

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I thought I heard the 1995 Stanley Cup victory saved the Devils from relocating to Nashville, however it wasn't as bad as this. If the Coyotes won the Stanley Cup, they would still loose money.

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Quite honestly it depends on who they face.

That's the great thing about NHL hockey, the more rounds you advance the more money your team makes.

In the case of Phoenix, it would make money off other team's fans.

But then I don't know how passionate fans of Vancouver are to travel to Phoenix for the West Final.

However imagine the Rangers and Phoenix in the Cup final?

The Yotes would make money off that.

I think it would delay relocation for one season because I think with playoff revenue the team would break even for this season no?

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...I think with playoff revenue the team would break even for this season no?
Nope.

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Nope.
So potentially 12+ home playoff games wouldn't make a dent in the red line for this season?

That's quite sad.

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So potentially 12+ home playoff games wouldn't make a dent in the red line for this season?

That's quite sad.
Yeah, but maybe Scruggsy can get back some of that $25 million with all that playoff revenue.

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It would be one heck of an odd situation if the Yotes do some major damage in the postseason with all of this swirling around them, as the NHL obviously won't announce anything specific about a potential relocation while there are still games to be played as the league would want to make sure that there are still butts in the seats.

But if someone was honestly interested in buying the Yotes and keeping them in Glendale, I don't think a deep playoff run would be the determining factor of if they go through with it or not.

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After watching what happened with the Nordiques, I don't think season/playoff performance will help the Coyotes.

They can't stay in Phoenix unless someone pays to keep them there. With Glendale basically admitting they're done putting in money (and want the money they've already put in returned), not even winning the Cup will keep them in town if no one is willing to pay to keep them there.


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I think its pure fantasy to think after a strong playoff run some sugar-daddy would then say "I've got to buy this team", even if they won the cup.

I also think the fix is in: the NHL has its mind set as to where the team is moving and is trying to deceive Glendale by denying this until the Yotes stop playing.

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Colisee has to be retrofit before any of this matters. A deep run can cause some uncertainty and keep the team in Phoenix for another year. The NHL would prefer to get expansion fees for new markets rather than moving a team, so It doesn't really surprise me they are giving any chance, no matter how remote, this much time.

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I thought I heard the 1995 Stanley Cup victory saved the Devils from relocating to Nashville, however it wasn't as bad as this. If the Coyotes won the Stanley Cup, they would still loose money.
yeah i remember that

i was soo mad when the devils didn't move

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