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I am guessing that at the draft is a convenient time where all of the GM's are together and picks are traded as well as players.
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Except, as I said, his NMC doesn't expire until July 1. In the past Thomas has said he would not waive it (and rumors are he actually did veto a deal). Also, the B's may want to wait a bit and see what happens with Rask's injury. Dealing Thomas could turn out to be a huge mistake.
What happens if Thomas plays in the playoffs like he did last year and the B's win a Cup? Are they really going to deal a back to back Cup winning goalie (maybe back to back Conn Smythe winner)??
If they do Chiarelli better pray Rask doesn't get hurt or fail as a full time goalie.
Except, as I said, his NMC doesn't expire until July 1. In the past Thomas has said he would not waive it (and rumors are he actually did veto a deal). Also, the B's may want to wait a bit and see what happens with Rask's injury. Dealing Thomas could turn out to be a huge mistake.
What happens if Thomas plays in the playoffs like he did last year and the B's win a Cup? Are they really going to deal a back to back Cup winning goalie (maybe back to back Conn Smythe winner)??
If they do Chiarelli better pray Rask doesn't get hurt or fail as a full time goalie.
I think 24 is right in that B's wont trade Thomas unless he wants to go, so I don't think the NMC is that big a factor. He might be more willing if he knows that Rask will be taking over the reigns as the #1 and the new team gives him an extension. It also wouldn't shock me if Rask is the one moved. I'm not sure if everyone in the Bs camp is convinced that Rask is the elite G for the future.
Except, as I said, his NMC doesn't expire until July 1. In the past Thomas has said he would not waive it (and rumors are he actually did veto a deal). Also, the B's may want to wait a bit and see what happens with Rask's injury. Dealing Thomas could turn out to be a huge mistake.
What happens if Thomas plays in the playoffs like he did last year and the B's win a Cup? Are they really going to deal a back to back Cup winning goalie (maybe back to back Conn Smythe winner)??
If they do Chiarelli better pray Rask doesn't get hurt or fail as a full time goalie.
I didn't realize it was July 1st, but that makes sense.
I don't know if they would trade him or not, I was looking at it from the point of view that he has one year left after this, who really knows if he would re-sign with the Bruins or if he will still be the same player.
I think he most likely will still be a very good goaltender for a couple of more years, but the way the Bruins have his deal structured, it does make some sense that it was in Chiarelli's plan to have Rask take over as the #1 and Khudobin as the backup and either deal Thomas or let him go.
Of course his deal was planned out before he was a Conn Smyth winner, so maybe he comes back next year and either retires after that or signs somewhere else, but it really looks to me that the Bruins are poised to move on from Thomas sooner rather than later.
My perception could be very wrong, I will admit that, but they sure have made it an option with the way everything is structured.
lol, one of the worst I've seen. Flames give up their franchise player for nothing.
Here is what Eliteprospects.com has to say about Namestnikov: A very skilled offensive center. A reliable finisher with an impressive wrist shot. A good passer and playmaker. An excellent skater. Takes advantage of open space very well. Solid two-way. Needs to gain strength.
When you add in a pick or prospect from Boston it doesn't exactly look like "nothing" to me.
Here is what Eliteprospects.com has to say about Namestnikov: A very skilled offensive center. A reliable finisher with an impressive wrist shot. A good passer and playmaker. An excellent skater. Takes advantage of open space very well. Solid two-way. Needs to gain strength.
When you add in a pick or prospect from Boston it doesn't exactly look like "nothing" to me.
Yes it does. To get Jarome, Boston has to give a massive 'future' package or give one of their younger players that calgary can use to build around. Such as Marchand+. Something I doubt Boston does.
I didn't realize it was July 1st, but that makes sense.
I don't know if they would trade him or not, I was looking at it from the point of view that he has one year left after this, who really knows if he would re-sign with the Bruins or if he will still be the same player.
I think he most likely will still be a very good goaltender for a couple of more years, but the way the Bruins have his deal structured, it does make some sense that it was in Chiarelli's plan to have Rask take over as the #1 and Khudobin as the backup and either deal Thomas or let him go.
Of course his deal was planned out before he was a Conn Smyth winner, so maybe he comes back next year and either retires after that or signs somewhere else, but it really looks to me that the Bruins are poised to move on from Thomas sooner rather than later.
My perception could be very wrong, I will admit that, but they sure have made it an option with the way everything is structured.
I do think they will try to trade Thomas, and I don't think they care much if he wants to go or not. That's why the July 1 date is important. By that point they have some idea about Rask's rehab. The team was not at all pleased about the White House thing. I honestly don't know what he'll bring back in a deal. My gut says it won't be much, but all it takes is one team to really want him.
The only thing that mucks that up is another strong playoffs performance by him. It will take a very gutty GM to deal off a starting goalie who won you a Cup (or 2) when there's no reason to trade him.
Yes it does. To get Jarome, Boston has to give a massive 'future' package or give one of their younger players that calgary can use to build around. Such as Marchand+. Something I doubt Boston does.
I wasn't saying whether or not that would be good enough of a deal to get the Flames to move Iginla, just that it is a lot more than the "nothing" that the poster I was replying to said it was.
I agree with you that I don't think Boston gives up Marchand or anyone like that to acquire Iginla. I actually think that if they were to move Thomas it would be more of a move to clear some salary and take a run at Parise.
I wasn't saying whether or not that would be good enough of a deal to get the Flames to move Iginla, just that it is a lot more than the "nothing" that the poster I was replying to said it was.
I agree with you that I don't think Boston gives up Marchand or anyone like that to acquire Iginla. I actually think that if they were to move Thomas it would be more of a move to clear some salary and take a run at Parise.
Fair enough. I just think the package given was laughable for the flames.
I do think they will try to trade Thomas, and I don't think they care much if he wants to go or not. That's why the July 1 date is important. By that point they have some idea about Rask's rehab. The team was not at all pleased about the White House thing. I honestly don't know what he'll bring back in a deal. My gut says it won't be much, but all it takes is one team to really want him.
The only thing that mucks that up is another strong playoffs performance by him. It will take a very gutty GM to deal off a starting goalie who won you a Cup (or 2) when there's no reason to trade him.
The reason would be the $5 million salary slot if you think you have a chance at Parise caliber player and you think Rask can be a #1 to replace him without big drop off. I have heard from multiple people that the White House flap has pissed the Bs off and Im kind of surprised. He was always that way, it just wasn't as public
Khabibulin, 31st overall (if NJD forfeit their 1st rder which I'm sure they will), Corey Potter. Not sure if that's enough, but I wouldn't offer much more.
Maybe you can tell us what Bruins fans think because I am a Bruins fan and I don't think they will be asking for a lot for him as long as they are moving him to a team that they feel comfortable moving him to.
Well if you think you would get someone like JVR fro the Flyers that is serious overpayment for a 38 soon to retire goalie.
That is what i believe is asking to much.
Well if you think you would get someone like JVR fro the Flyers that is serious overpayment for a 38 soon to retire goalie.
That is what i believe is asking to much.
I don't think they would get JVR for him but since so many Flyers fans were making proposals trading JVR I was asking what that poster thought.
I think they would trade Thomas for a good prospect or pick.
To a team like the Flyers that has had some serious goaltending issues in the recent past, he might be worth more and I was just questioning if he was or not.
Thomas still has what it takes and can steal a playoff series, I think that going one playoff series deeper in the playoffs is nothing to laugh at and I would bet that there are more than a couple of GM's feel the same way even if it is for one year. He is almost certainly worth as much as we have seen UFA's go for at the deadline if it is to the right team.
Depending on the Schneider situation, Tampa might be interested but you sure as hell aren't getting a first round pick for him. I'd say one of our seconds and a mid level prospect would get it done IF the Bruins are looking to move him to open up cap space and give Rask the job.
I wouldn't mind getting Thomas at all to play the next two years and by that time we will have a goalie in the system finally ready.
if he knows he will be traded a week later it makes no sense to block a trade.
You are talking logic. Thomas is a strange guy. He's said he will not waive his NMC. I take him at his word no that, even if it seems he's doing it out of spite.
Yes it does. To get Jarome, Boston has to give a massive 'future' package or give one of their younger players that calgary can use to build around. Such as Marchand+. Something I doubt Boston does.
