I don't understand the move the more i look at it, He is a competant back up but that is substantial amount for a backup goalie, i prefer the detroit method, spend as little as possible on goalies and spend the rest on your defense.
What are you talking about? 1 million is the going rate for dime a dozen goalies like Emery. Only Raycroft and youngsters make less.
Emery filled in great, 15-9-4 is pretty decent for a back up.
Elliot is not available, and we didnt finish far behind St Louis, so we dont need Elliot, we need Halak instead of Crawford.
Emery isnt the problem, Crawford was..we need a new starting goalie, not a new back up.
Yes, crappy like Vokoun ...and Harding wont sign for anything around Emery.
I agree, they could of waited and signed an unknown talent for more money. But, our back up goalie isn't going to make or break the season...just like this year.
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Originally Posted by nhlfan9191
Emery is a solid backup. Crawford is a problem.
Hawks have Crawford signed for 2 more years and are stuck with him. He is a problem, but in the situation we are, Emery is not the 2nd goalie that the Hawks need.
We need Elliot or Halak over any to ours
Elliot or Halak > Crawford or Emery
Hawks have Crawford signed for 2 more years and are stuck with him. He is a problem, but in the situation we are, Emery is not the 2nd goalie that the Hawks need.
We need Elliot or Halak over any to ours
Elliot or Halak > Crawford or Emery
Hawks have Crawford signed for 2 more years and are stuck with him. He is a problem, but in the situation we are, Emery is not the 2nd goalie that the Hawks need.
We need Elliot or Halak over any to ours
Elliot or Halak > Crawford or Emery
Elliot and Halak are not available, no goalie of that ilk is available.
Emery was fine as a 2nd goalie this year, and will be again next year.
Bowman should run for mayor, he'd win. He can do no wrong. If he was pulling this crap in a serious hockey city, he'd be long gone.
You mean making decent acquisitions without giving up anything of value? Right, such a horrible GM in a non-serious hockey city that had 2million people at it's SC parade.
You mean making decent acquisitions without giving up anything of value? Right, such a horrible GM in a non-serious hockey city that had 2million people at it's SC parade.
You're right, he'd be an outstanding GM for a team like Phoenix. Decent doesn't cut it here, shouldn't anyway.
Well, he's doing pretty much the exact opposite of what I expect so it really doesn't matter how high they are. He's not just failing in my eyes, it's flat out miserable and borderline unexplained (Rocky being a cheapskate?). The fact that ANYONE approves of his methods is just sad, IMO. It shows the franchise really has taken a couple steps backward and isn't even going to be held accountable for it, so it won't change.
Well, he's doing pretty much the exact opposite of what I expect so it really doesn't matter how high they are. He's not just failing in my eyes, it's flat out miserable and borderline unexplained (Rocky being a cheapskate?). The fact that ANYONE approves of his methods is just sad, IMO. It shows the franchise really has taken a couple steps backward and isn't even going to be held accountable for it, so it won't change.
I'll wait until the Hawks miss the playoffs before I deem the management "flat out miserable and borderline unexplainable". How can you have endured Bill Wirtz for so long and then sit there and say Rocky is a "cheap skate". Huet, Olesz.. This team has no problem paying people to NOT count against the cap if they feel it helps the team.
Bowman should run for mayor, he'd win. He can do no wrong. If he was pulling this crap in a serious hockey city, he'd be long gone.
There's a GM in a serious hockey city who gave the moon for Phil Kessel while leaving their goaltending situation to rot. He's still got his job.
Re-signing Ray Emery is far from the end of the Hawks. Neither is acquiring Morrison for nothing, or acquiring Oduya for a 2nd and a 3rd, or drafting Saad with his 4th pick, or any of the other nonsense people seem to complain about.
There's a GM in a serious hockey city who gave the moon for Phil Kessel while leaving their goaltending situation to rot. He's still got his job.
Re-signing Ray Emery is far from the end of the Hawks. Neither is acquiring Morrison for nothing, or acquiring Oduya for a 2nd and a 3rd, or drafting Saad with his 4th pick, or any of the other nonsense people seem to complain about.
I've yet to see anyone complain about the Hawks drafting Saad. Now that would be the stretch of all stretches to complain
I'll wait until the Hawks miss the playoffs before I deem the management "flat out miserable and borderline unexplainable". How can you have endured Bill Wirtz for so long and then sit there and say Rocky is a "cheap skate". Huet, Olesz.. This team has no problem paying people to NOT count against the cap if they feel it helps the team.
Huet and Olesz? Let me give you an analogy for what he did there.
You have a car, it's ok, but you want a nicer one and the one you have is getting up there in miles so you sell now to get max value so you can put more money to the new car you want and need.
I don't see the point in re-signing him when there's plenty of back-up/1b kinda goalies out there that would love to play behind Crawford and potentially steal the starting job or at least play 20-30 games. Oh, and they'd probably do it for roughly the same amount of money!
But last time I said "I don't see the point in re-signing him" I was talking about Stalberg and how wrong was I?
So here's hoping that Emery becomes our Stalberg or that I'm proven right... I love being right
Decent does cut it here. 2 years of salary cap hell, 1 year with no decent FA's available, what more do you want him to do?
His deadline trade was gold, and helped this team immensely. The only problem with this team is how the players perform on the ice.
I'm not joining the Emery hatewagon, but as for Stan. There were many players available last summer - either via free agency or via trade. Look how Florida reworked their team nearly from top to bottom and then went out and won their division. I was so wrong there. Florida was my pre-season pick to win the Fail for Nail campaign.
Bowman should run for mayor, he'd win. He can do no wrong. If he was pulling this crap in a serious hockey city, he'd be long gone.
pulling what crap--
Playoff hockey a team with enough talent to win any game at any time. He resigned a backup goalie that won us a good amount of games....he kept the hawks in almost every game he played in....he never lost in regulation at home....WHAT MORE DO YOU WANT FROM YOUR BACKUP????
he has a .003 less save percentage then Crawford
His save pct is better then bobrovski, montoya, reimer ect...
His goals against is better then anderson, pavlec, neuvurth ect...
You are so against Emery that all the sudden ur against bowman for our BACKKKKKUP goalie
He wont play a game in the playoffs this year or next and if he does we probably wont win just like most teams in the playoffs if there backup plays.
His save pct is better then bobrovski, montoya, reimer ect...
Etc is Roloson and the list stops at those 4.
And your comment about the backup having better numbers than the starter. Well, on 12 of the 30 teams this season, that was the case, so it's not a crazy thought.
So if everyone is playing balls out like they should, what are your expecations for the playoffs?
With the west being as tight as it is, any team could win/lose in the first round. That's parity. Vancouver could lose to LA, St. Louis could lose to San Jose, Chicago could lose to Phoenix.
As a matter of fact, every top team in the league could lose in the 1st round.
My expectations? Probably a loss in the 2nd rd, because Crawford will let us down, not Emery, and no back up in the league will solve that issue, not even Brian Elliot.
