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Now that Philly has resigned Grossmann to a new deal how are they going to proceed this summer. They have ~2m under the cap, and need to sign Voracek, potentially Jagr and likely 1 more D if they think Pronger will be out for any length of time.
Voracek is likely due for a slight raise 3m+ depending on term.
If the cap goes up even a bit, they're likely fine. However it's just as possible that the cap goes down a bit. Then what?
Current players under contract w/o Pronger. I don't watch enough Philly games to know if this is even close to accurate.
I see Jagr retiring. He's not done as well as I think he'd hoped to have done this season and I wouldn't be surprised to see him retire - or return to Russia.
I see Jagr retiring. He's not done as well as I think he'd hoped to have done this season and I wouldn't be surprised to see him retire - or return to Russia.
If philly goes out in the first round, I see Jagr thinking long and hard about returning.
Now that Philly has resigned Grossmann to a new deal how are they going to proceed this summer. They have ~2m under the cap, and need to sign Voracek, potentially Jagr and likely 1 more D if they think Pronger will be out for any length of time.
Voracek is likely due for a slight raise 3m+ depending on term.
If the cap goes up even a bit, they're likely fine. However it's just as possible that the cap goes down a bit. Then what?
Current players under contract w/o Pronger. I don't watch enough Philly games to know if this is even close to accurate.
If that approx. 2 mil under the cap doesn't include Pronger's cap hit (since currently on LTIR), then the flyers may be in a tough spot if he does come back.
If that approx. 2 mil under the cap doesn't include Pronger's cap hit (since currently on LTIR), then the flyers may be in a tough spot if he does come back.
2m with Pronger coming back. If he's on LTIR they have ~7m, and it's less of an issue. However if they even think he'll come back during the season, they'd have to move someone(s) to free up space... So spending that could lead to other issues...
I don't know if they can trade JVR without losing face/credibility to all other free agents, and even their own players. It would be the 3rd young player traded VERY soon into their new long-term extensions in the last 2 years.
I don't know if they can trade JVR without losing face/credibility to all other free agents, and even their own players. It would be the 3rd young player traded VERY soon into their new long-term extensions in the last 2 years.
This. I'd think they'd trade Voracek before JVR simply to save face. And while that's a piss poor reason to move 1 player over another, if they did move JVR who would sign long term with Philly without a strict NMC/NTC while Paul Homgrin (sp) is the GM?
I see Jagr retiring. He's not done as well as I think he'd hoped to have done this season and I wouldn't be surprised to see him retire - or return to Russia.
Jagr has been adamant that he's coming back.
Brandon Manning has been a nice find, but he's not a candidate to be a regular next season.
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FORWARDS
Scott Hartnell ($4.200m) / Daniel Briere ($6.500m) / Jaromir Jagr ($2.000m)
James Van Riemsdyk ($4.250m) / Claude Giroux ($3.750m) / Matt Read ($0.900m)
Maxime Talbot ($1.750m) / Brayden Schenn ($3.110m) / Wayne Simmonds ($1.750m)
Eric Wellwood ($0.580m) / Sean Couturier ($1.375m) / Jody Shelley ($1.100m)
Tom Sestito ($0.605m) / Zac Rinaldo ($0.544m)
DEFENSEMEN
Kimmo Timonen ($6.333m) / Andrej Meszaros ($4.000m)
Braydon Coburn ($4.500m) / Nicklas Grossman ($3.500m)
Andreas Lilja ($0.738m) / Luke Schenn ($3.600m)
Marc-Andre Bourdon ($0.800m) /
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Ilya Bryzgalov ($5.667m)
Sergei Bobrovsky ($1.750m)
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SALARY CAP: $64,300,000;
CAP PAYROLL: $63,076,000;
BONUSES: $3,715,000
CAP SPACE (24-man roster): $1,224,000
Now that Philly has resigned Grossmann to a new deal how are they going to proceed this summer. They have ~2m under the cap, and need to sign Voracek, potentially Jagr and likely 1 more D if they think Pronger will be out for any length of time.
Voracek is likely due for a slight raise 3m+ depending on term.
If the cap goes up even a bit, they're likely fine. However it's just as possible that the cap goes down a bit. Then what?
Current players under contract w/o Pronger. I don't watch enough Philly games to know if this is even close to accurate.
Don't count on Briere waiving his no-move clause, because his ex-wife still lives in South Jersey and he has custody of his children, unless something has changed.
Briere probably can't be moved. He has an NTC paired with a custody agreement with his divorced wife. In order to waive his NTC, he'd miss having his sons on weekends during the season.
Pronger defines the offseason for the Flyers. If he isn't feeling significantly better as we near July 1, the Flyers will probably plan as if he's not playing. If by chance he does return after they spent his dollars, they probably just move Mezsaros for pennies on the dollar.
I seriously expect the Flyers to make a run at Suter. It's doubtful they get him, but even if they did, it's not like they'd have any trouble finding a taker for one of their younger forwards (Voracek, JVR, etc). The depth at forward provides the Flyers a great deal of latitude in spending on their defensive core.
Agreed that they have great depth up front... however with a Dcore of
Timmonen, Meszaros, Coburn, Grossmann you really think they go after Suter? I think they along with every other team in the league will ask about him... however I don't see Philly as his destination.
Personally I think Suter will end up with Detroit allowing Lidstrom to retire.
Should Carle go to UFA - I'd like to see Pittsburgh try and sign him. If we miss out on signing Niskanen due to too high wage demands or let Martin go - I'd like to see us try to sign him.
Should Carle go to UFA - I'd like to see Pittsburgh try and sign him. If we miss out on signing Niskanen due to too high wage demands or let Martin go - I'd like to see us try to sign him.
I think Carle is going to be looking (and will probably get) in the 4.5-5.5M range. The team that signs him to that will regret it from season 1.
I think Carle is going to be looking (and will probably get) in the 4.5-5.5M range. The team that signs him to that will regret it from season 1.
I think you are right about the cap hit. I fear that Holmgren will sign him to a stupid cap hit like this, but I think the best thing to do is let him walk.
I think they'll have to scrounge for #5 or 6 d-men, taking a veteran for a 1 or 2 yr contract.
Should Carle go to UFA - I'd like to see Pittsburgh try and sign him. If we miss out on signing Niskanen due to too high wage demands or let Martin go - I'd like to see us try to sign him.
Definitely want no part of Carle, He's going to be looking to get at least 5 and he's basically Martin with better offense and worse defence.
Briere will stay a Flyer and I am sure the Flyers will try to re sign Carle for around 4.5 a season. Carle is always in the right position and is good with the puck. The only downfall is his size, but he is a very smart player and they should try to keep him for sure. Voracek is also a must to re sign because of his puck control and defense. If they want to free up cap space I think Mez would be the one to go because I am sure teams out there would be willing to give up a 2nd rounder or so for him. There is also Bob to trade to free up cap space, but I don't want the Flyers to get rid of him because I do think he will be a great goalie in the future with more coaching. The guy is an extremely hard worker.
Calgary would probably be interested in Briere what would cost (He is being half treated as a cap dump)
Why would calgary be interested in him? He's going to be 35 and has 3 years left @ a 6.5 mil cap hit. Calgary is already one of the oldest teams in the league and the young players you do have, most of them have yet to establish themselves as core parts of the team.
Call it a rebuild or a retooling. Doesn't matter. Either way, calgary needs to get younger.
