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04-09-2012, 01:15 AM
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Good chance that Yakupov, Grigorenko and Galchenyuk will be the top 3 picks. Almost a lock at this point. We most likely will not pick till 6th as the hockey gods have no love for us here in Toronto. With the 3 that we could really use to most gone, what is next?

Does Burke really want to draft a D with this pick? Dumba or Murray? I really hope that he does not draft Forsberg.

With the top 3 gone, If your Burke who do you take?
It is far from a lock that Galchenyuk will be a top 3 pick. His injuries could have alot of teams scared off.
And most scouting reports dont have him going top 3.

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You realize he has no relation to peter forsberg
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Not a fan. I think his name is hyping him up and before you ask, Yes I have seen him play.
What the heck?

Forsberg is as high as he is from every scouting sheet released, because he is a heck of a prospect. Don't be shocked to see him off the board by the time the Leafs pick, especially if the top 4 do not take at least 2 defencemen.

Next time actually watch him play, instead of just saying that you did.

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Scouts have Galchenyuk outside of the top 10, and Mackenzie has him at 7. Is it just this board that's convinced that Galchenyuk is going top 5, or am I missing something?

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Scouts have Galchenyuk outside of the top 10, and Mackenzie has him at 7. Is it just this board that's convinced that Galchenyuk is going top 5, or am I missing something?
Just from what I've seen from him, if he's there at 5 this team has to grab him. This kid has the potential to be exactly what this franchise needs for the next 15 years.

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when all is said and done we won games we had no business trying to win and it may have done us in.
We're lucky to have a lottery pick. That slide in February-March was legendary. A lot better than making a late run and barely missing the playoffs like every other year.

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At this point I'll be happy with pretty much anyone we get at the fifth pick, which I'm confident is where we end up picking. Gal would be nice. The real interesting part will be later on, I like Subban as a late first rounder and I think Mac is a perfect piece to move to grab a pick and select him. Kadri is primed and ready to slide into a second line wing role and you'd think I'd replace Mac no problem. Frk seems like a real interesting prospect in the early second as well.

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If he had played this year... isn't there a decent chance Galchenyuk would be ranked #1 or #2?

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If he had played this year... isn't there a decent chance Galchenyuk would be ranked #1 or #2?
Not number one, Yak has been the consensus number one for a long time, years really.

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If he had played this year... isn't there a decent chance Galchenyuk would be ranked #1 or #2?
#2 or #3 behind Grigorenko.

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Hey guys, i haven't posted here in awhile. Now that the season is over and we have a top 5 pick this year i felt like coming back to the boards and talking to some fellow Leafs fans about the upcoming lottery and draft.

Anyways, I was looking at different peoples rankings, and i noticed that Craig Button has Grigorenko ranked as low as 7th, and Murray ranked as low as low as 10th. I'm assuming there is not much of a chance it happens, but does anyone see a possibility that we could draft Grigorenko if he falls down to 5?

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cam someone tell me , if gardiner wouldn`t have tied the game vs tampa bay we would be having the 3rd pick before the lottery?? i love you jake but whyyyyyyyy did u scored that goal...

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so, what do we do if Galchenyuk is on the board and Burke passes on him ...and goes Faksa/Reinhart on us or some other semi off the board player

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so, what do we do if Galchenyuk is on the board and Burke passes on him ...and goes Faksa/Reinhart on us or some other semi off the board player
personally I will cry inside.

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Hey guys, i haven't posted here in awhile. Now that the season is over and we have a top 5 pick this year i felt like coming back to the boards and talking to some fellow Leafs fans about the upcoming lottery and draft.

Anyways, I was looking at different peoples rankings, and i noticed that Craig Button has Grigorenko ranked as low as 7th, and Murray ranked as low as low as 10th. I'm assuming there is not much of a chance it happens, but does anyone see a possibility that we could draft Grigorenko if he falls down to 5?
I get the impression everything is a possibility beyond Yakupov. Out of top 6 picks Edmonton, Anahiem and maybe the Islanders would be wanting to grab a D..... NYI could go either way though.

So much is still up in the air though - if Schultz signs with ANA then they may move on a forward over a D, and we all know Edmonton wants Murray/Dumba, so if Grigs is available at #3 gotta think Montreal doesn't pass on him. If the Islanders do want a D then they go for whoever is still on the board in Murray/Dumba.

Only way Grigs is still available is if Montreal goes D which I highly doubt or they go off the board and grab Forsberg, Faska or Galy or something... doubt it though.

What may be better for us is if one of Faska/Forsberg/Trouba are available around the #10 spot or Gaunce around the #15 and we can move player assets to grab him, like Franson, MaC, Gunnar, etc.

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so, what do we do if Galchenyuk is on the board and Burke passes on him ...and goes Faksa/Reinhart on us or some other semi off the board player
This is a worst-case scenario... can't see it happening. I'd sooner bank on Burke moving up and grabbing a 2nd top-10 pick for the guy he wants than pass on better talent at that 5 pick.

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cam someone tell me , if gardiner wouldn`t have tied the game vs tampa bay we would be having the 3rd pick before the lottery?? i love you jake but whyyyyyyyy did u scored that goal...
Brett Connolly put it in his own net, unfortunately...

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cam someone tell me , if gardiner wouldn`t have tied the game vs tampa bay we would be having the 3rd pick before the lottery?? i love you jake but whyyyyyyyy did u scored that goal...
I think we'd be at 4th. We'd be tied with Montreal for points, but Montreal only has 31 wins and the Leafs would have 34. So unless Montreal has more regulation/OT wins than the Leafs then we'd be 4th.

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Not a fan. I think his name is hyping him up and before you ask, Yes I have seen him play.
Honestly, if there is any hyping going on it is about the local lads, not the guys overseas. Unless you think having Forsberg as a name confuses scouts?

If Yakupov and Grigorenko stayed home, where would you rank two Russians playing in the KHL? Would you even draft them?

Kyle Woodlief and gang believe that for the most part European forwards dominate top 20 in 2012, that if you want skill don't look at the North Americans.

Galchenyuk was born in USofA, but where did he grow up? His father played overseas from 98 to 07 in Russia and Belarus. If Galchenyuk was playing in Belarus would he be getting all this hype?

Let's be honest if you play in Europe you are an after thought.

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As we were watching the dynamic Swedish duo of Sebastian Collberg and Filip Forsberg dominate entire shifts and Finnish flash Teuvo Teravainen rip hellacious one-timers and Russian Anton Slepyshev dangle through crowds of overmatched defenders, we thought back to fond memories when North American forwards used to have puck skills. Ah, those were the good old days.
Of course this isn't a popular opinion here.

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cam someone tell me , if gardiner wouldn`t have tied the game vs tampa bay we would be having the 3rd pick before the lottery?? i love you jake but whyyyyyyyy did u scored that goal...
If the leafs would have lost to the Lightning we be picking #4

We couldn't finish 3rd because Montreal lost in OT to carolina they would have needed to win in regulation that night.

So finishing 5th is great.. considering we lost to montreal and Every other team in the mix lost as well.

Would have really Blew to have beat montreal and picked 7th..Potentially 8th if a team moved up.

5th pick we're pretty much gauranteed one of the top players which is awesome 7-8-9 you start getting into a crap shoot for 1st liners.. most likely 2nd/3rd liners or players that aren't ready to really contribute for 5+ years

Look at Kadri at #7 drafted in 2009 and he still hasn't garnered a full time roster spot in 2012... Hoping he'll make it full time next season but it's still been the 4th season after being drafted. HOping the long development time will have paid off and we have ourselves a legit 2nd liner on our hands.

#3 Matt Duchene contributed instantly in his rookie year. and #4 Kane broke out this year. #5 in Schenn is finally finding his way in the second half of this season and #6 OEL had a great year this year.

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so, what do we do if Galchenyuk is on the board and Burke passes on him ...and goes Faksa/Reinhart on us or some other semi off the board player
I'll be pissed at the time but in reality we need at least a season to make any real assessment.

It wont be Faksa BTW, hes got a pretty serious concussion. If Burke's going to take an injured player, I think he goes for the bum knee not the concussed head.

And take note that Burke was only doing due diligence in scouting Faksa. At the time a pick in the 7-10 range was very possible, if not plausible. Given we're picking in the "elite class" of the draft, I dont think hes a realistic option anymore.

My best guess is we end up with one of Galy, Forsberg, or Dumba.

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If the leafs would have lost to the Lightning we be picking #4

We couldn't finish 3rd because Montreal lost in OT to carolina they would have needed to win in regulation that night.

So finishing 5th is great.. considering we lost to montreal and Every other team in the mix lost as well.

Would have really Blew to have beat montreal and picked 7th..Potentially 8th if a team moved up.

5th pick we're pretty much gauranteed one of the top players which is awesome 7-8-9 you start getting into a crap shoot for 1st liners.. most likely 2nd/3rd liners or players that aren't ready to really contribute for 5+ years

Look at Kadri at #7 drafted in 2009 and he still hasn't garnered a full time roster spot in 2012... Hoping he'll make it full time next season but it's still been the 4th season after being drafted. HOping the long development time will have paid off and we have ourselves a legit 2nd liner on our hands.

#3 Matt Duchene contributed instantly in his rookie year. and #4 Kane broke out this year. #5 in Schenn is finally finding his way in the second half of this season and #6 OEL had a great year this year.
Matt Duchene also only has 28 pts this year, and Kadri's PPG is higher then Schenn's. Kadri isnt under performing in comparison to his draft class, hes actually pretty average, if not above average for the first rounders.

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We're lucky to have a lottery pick. That slide in February-March was legendary. A lot better than making a late run and barely missing the playoffs like every other year.
This years big loser. Calgary!

Buying at the deadline. Trading away picks. Finishing just out of the playoffs... Again.

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Matt Duchene also only has 28 pts this year, and Kadri's PPG is higher then Schenn's. Kadri isnt under performing in comparison to his draft class, hes actually pretty average, if not above average for the first rounders.
Well, maybe Kadri and a 2nd. for Duchene?

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Matt Duchene also only has 28 pts this year, and Kadri's PPG is higher then Schenn's. Kadri isnt under performing in comparison to his draft class, hes actually pretty average, if not above average for the first rounders.
Yea Kadri isn't underperforming.. he just hadn't crack a roster spot. I think had he been slotted in for top 6 all year for 82 games he'd have produced > Cmac and Kulemin.

But he hasn't had the chance.. Wilson for whatever reason seen holes in his game.. Either way i hope that Randy C gives him a chance next year or he won't be a leaf much longer.

And WOW on Matt Duchene.. 58Gp 24 points.. that's brutal i haven't heard much about him this year.. Injured for 24 games but still.. what type of injury to affect him like that?

that's just a terrible off year.. I wonder what Colorado are thinking regarding his production.. had he been close to a PPG player the avs would probably be in the playoffs

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