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04-07-2012, 09:00 PM
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A little angry.

Season is over, and I am just goina make a post to rant.

Getzlaf is 27 years old (basically), and just put up 11 goals and 57 points.

I know people are saying we need a 2nd line center, but I think Getzlaf just spent 82 games proving we already have one.

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I'd give him a full year in BB's system before you ship him to Toronto for Kadri.

Also, I ascribe to the screaming infant/no sleep theory. I think he'll be fine next year.

And if not, he can be shipped off to Toronto for Kadri.....


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Season is over, and I am just goina make a post to rant.

Getzlaf is 27 years old (basically), and just put up 11 goals and 57 points.

I know people are saying we need a 2nd line center, but I think Getzlaf just spent 82 games proving we already have one.
Lol so everything he's done for you guys before means nothing?

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I'd give him a full year in BB's system before you ship him to Toronto for Kadri.

Also, I ascribe to the screaming infant/no sleep theory. I think he'll be fine next year.

And if not, he can be shipped off to torontomfor Kadri.....
You'd give us Getzlaf for kadri???? I'd do it in a heart beat.

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You'd give us Getzlaf for kadri???? I'd do it in a heart beat.


That isn't what he said.

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Getzlaf lost some confidence and bite to his game. Once he starts driving to the net, he'll create more space for himself. Right now, he has become too one dimensional and the defensemen know how to defend him.

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Other than a few games, I thought this was one of Getzlaf's best seasons in terms of putting out effort on the ice. He was snakebit as hell, he still makes bad shoot vs. pass decisions, and he's still way too biased towards his backhand, but I didn't think he got the season he deserved relative to his compete level.

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That isn't what he said.
I know what he meant. Assuming getzlaf doesn't show improvement he'd trade him for kadri and I'd still do that trade.

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1 awful year. Team was a complete mess for most of the season.

I'll keep him.

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You'd give us Getzlaf for kadri???? I'd do it in a heart beat.
I'm just ridiculing the typical trade boards proposals

I would start with Gardiner, a 1st, Kadri/Colborne, and at least a conditional pick if he re-signs. Not sure the Ducks would take that though. And I'd have to be drinking.

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Even if he turns out to be a 2nd line center after this, he'd still be one of the best 2nd line centers in the league. That said, I think this season is probably a fluke.

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It's called a down year. Malkin & Kovalchuk had them in 10-11, Marleau had one in 07-08. All bounced back. Barring injuries, he will be a PPG player next year. Elite players like Getzlaf don't just stop being good at 26 years old.

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Yeah, he's been a top player forever. He's not the type to just fade away.

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If Getzlaf can actually cut his giveaways down by just a quarter then I think his production would go absolutely through the roof. 95 giveaways this season....on pace for 90 last season....While his take aways have been pretty much the same since he has come in (avg around the mid to high 30s). Why no one harps on him for that seems to boggle my mind a lot.

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If Getzlaf can actually cut his giveaways down by just a quarter then I think his production would go absolutely through the roof. 95 giveaways this season....on pace for 90 last season....While his take aways have been pretty much the same since he has come in (avg around the mid to high 30s). Why no one harps on him for that seems to boggle my mind a lot.
Because, before this season, he usually had the puck.

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One down season does not a career make. I know that doesn't need to be said, but it is worth reminding people sometimes. Getz has been a consistent point per game+ player for four straight seasons. One bad season is an anomaly, and he was far from the only one to underperform this season. I expect more next season. Not just from him, but from the team. Last season a number of players over-performed, and Anaheim slid into 4th as a result. This season was the reverse. The real Ducks are somewhere between.

I just hope this is a wake-up call for Murray. This team isn't good enough. It hasn't been good enough since 2010.

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Just gonna re-gurgitate what has already been said. It's one off year. Everyone declined.

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I am just surprised Getz seems devoid of hate.

"Koivu is too old for 2nd line center.
Ryan should be traded for various reasons.
Belesky, fowler, etc etc"

Is it because this team is so tied to the success of Getz? If he does not bounce back, and he is our gomez, we kinda have all our eggs in the getzlaf Easter basket.

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Let him play next year before we start bringing up the name Gomez in the conversation.. Actually, even then we shouldn't say that name.

People put him on blast a lot so I don't think people are shielding him at all.

- He's lazy
- He never shoots
- Classic drop pass that leads to a chance for the other team

etc.

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Just gonna re-gurgitate what has already been said. It's one off year. Everyone declined.
Some had lower years than last year, but still have respectable numbers. I.e. Perry, Ryan, teemu, fowler, etc...

But Getz's production and his offensive attitude and his effort this season do not warrant 1st line minutes, a C on his jersey, or the money he made.

11 goals.

I love Getz, but if this is his "sound, defensive centering" then maybe he's more of a second line guy.

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I am just surprised Getz seems devoid of hate.

"Koivu is too old for 2nd line center.
Ryan should be traded for various reasons.
Belesky, fowler, etc etc"

Is it because this team is so tied to the success of Getz? If he does not bounce back, and he is our gomez, we kinda have all our eggs in the getzlaf Easter basket.
Getz getz plenty of hate, mostly during the GDTs. But it doesn't last, because he's never been unproductive like this. You cited Koivu, but Koivu's old and not likely to return to his 2C form. You cited Ryan, but Ryan's never been an impact or franchise player. Beleskey's obviously never proven anything, nor has Fowler (although I don't think he gets all that much hate).

Getzlaf has earned some slack, and trading him would be catastrophic in a way that trading any of the other players you mentioned wouldn't.

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I can't believe I'm hearing Getzlaf being compared to Gomez. I expect that he'll bounce back to the PPG player that he's always been, next season. However, even if he remains exactly what he was this season, he is far and away a better player than what Gomez is. To even make the comparison, even if an exaggeration, is quite ridiculous.

As for people not hazing him for his off season...I recall reading several complaints throughout this season about him from Duck fans. The thing is, even with his down year, he is still the best the Ducks have as a Center. If you trade him, who plays in his spot? If you demote him, as has been suggested in this thread, who takes the 1C spot? Unfortunately, the Ducks have 1 top 2 center on the team, at this point, so there's not much that can be done even if he doesn't bounce back.

The team, as a whole, under performed this season. It was quite disappointing to watch and will only feel worse if they do not sign Schultz. However, with them being in a position to grab a really good prospect from the draft and assuming that the players bounce back to their expected levels next year, there's still a lot to be excited about, moving forward.

At this point in time, the only thing I'm upset about is that the Ducks didn't lose on Thursday night, because they could have been in line for a top 4 pick! It is what it is though...Can't dwell on all that, can only look ahead and the Ducks could have a bright future as soon as next season.

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hopefully Team Canada wins gold at the world championship and Perry and Getzlaf remember what it feels like to be winners.

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One down season does not a career make. I know that doesn't need to be said, but it is worth reminding people sometimes. Getz has been a consistent point per game+ player for four straight seasons. One bad season is an anomaly, and he was far from the only one to underperform this season. I expect more next season. Not just from him, but from the team. Last season a number of players over-performed, and Anaheim slid into 4th as a result. This season was the reverse. The real Ducks are somewhere between.

I just hope this is a wake-up call for Murray. This team isn't good enough. It hasn't been good enough since 2010.

I agree with what you say Soj, but he really needs to look at either cutting back his giveaways or increasing his takeaways.

I would think he needs to work on his giveaways since his takeaways have been consistent for the past 4 seasons while his giveaways are getting worse each season.

I really think that if he works on that then he will be more of a force on the ice than what we have seen from him so far. Just my opinion obviously.

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Some had lower years than last year, but still have respectable numbers. I.e. Perry, Ryan, teemu, fowler, etc...

But Getz's production and his offensive attitude and his effort this season do not warrant 1st line minutes, a C on his jersey, or the money he made.

11 goals.

I love Getz, but if this is his "sound, defensive centering" then maybe he's more of a second line guy.
Getzlaf's numbers were low, definitely too low, but despite his numbers, he still played like a 1st line center IMO. At least all the games I saw he did (2nd half of season). He needs to be better, but to suggest he's not a 1st line center is ridiculous. Unfortunately his salary is about what 60 points players are making these days. Also the 2nd half of the season, effort wasn't much of an issue IMO, not any more then usual anyway. Can't comment much on 1st half because I didn't see it.

If you want to point out stats. How about not one defenseman hitting 30 points? I'd argue that the biggest dissapointment this season was Lubo. I didn't expect him to replicate his amazing numbers from last year, but I expected him to be our top defenseman, when he was probably our 4th best.

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