It's been pretty obvious to many we've been going through a full rebuild for a few years now. How about you stop playing games about what I said because I said no such thing.
You said we are better than Washington and Winnipeg and that we are going to make the playoffs.
You said this in response to people like me who were hoping Burke's team would continue to fail and plummet through the standings and garnish us a lottery pick that people like me have wanted for years, but couldn't because they were traded away for the one-dimensional winger.
You said they were a playoff team, now you say they are rebuilding. Make up your mind and stand by what you say with supporting evidence and reason. Just try.
It's been pretty obvious to many we've been going through a full rebuild for a few years now. How about you stop playing games about what I said because I said no such thing.
Read your own posts. You proclaimed playoffs and lauded this team dozens of times. Shall I quote you?
They've been pursuing playoffs non-stop since Burke has arrived, trading consecutive first round picks, signing high-priced free agents, and spending to the cap.
Not one rebuilding team in the league has traded consecutive firsts, ever, much less 4 draft picks for one incredibly one-dimensional winger.
You'd have to go all the way back to say 2007 for the last time a rebuilding team traded consecutive 1sts, plus a second.
If you think Seguin is relevant maybe we should added Luongo to the discussion too, since he was picked with a former Toronto draft pick. Maybe Eller too! Why stop at Seguin?
9 months prior to that draft, if the trade was never made would we have finished with the 2nd overall pick? who knows...bottom line is we never had the guy, lets get over it.
Funny how all GM's say the goal is to make the playoffs. Even Edmonton, the bottom feeder.
Funny how YOU thought we were a playoff team, all year long. Once again, just a few weeks ago, you said we were better than Washington and Winnipeg and we will make the playoffs. I don't understand why you've changed your mind since then, and are now stating a full-rebuild.
Claiming this team is playoff-caliber kind of puts a hole in your theory.
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Yes, just like Edmonton, the Islanders and Columbus. We're lottery picking this draft. It's all part of the rebuild.
Show me a single quote from their GMs where they said they were not interested in a 5 year process because it wasn't like that for them before. I will happily provide one from Bruan Burke if you need it. I will also provide a select few from yourself proclaiming this was a playoff team. Which refresher do you need?
If you think Seguin is relevant maybe we should added Luongo to the discussion too, since he was picked with a former Toronto draft pick. Maybe Eller too! Why stop at Seguin?
Show me a single quote from their GMs where they said they were not interested in a 5 year process because it wasn't like that for them before. I will happily provide one from Bruan Burke if you need it. I will also provide a select few from yourself proclaiming this was a playoff team. Which refresher do you need?
Find me a quote from any GM's of the full rebuilding teams that said their goal was to tank over and over again.
Whose current roster? They are in the NHL are they not?! We can add Sauer and Craig Smith to the list. Luongo is a former Vezina finalist, imagine if we had that kind of goaltending!?!!?
Find me a quote from any GM's of the full rebuilding teams that said their goal was to tank over and over again.
Why? Brian Burke said he wasn't interested in a five year rebuild. He said it. Period.
You are simply trying to deflect the truth. Burke said what he said. Nothing else matters.
Who cares if no GM had ever said they were going to tank. Burke said the exact opposite. He also said his draft is July 1st and he builds his teams from the net out and a bunch of other lies.
Whose current roster? They are in the NHL are they not?! We can add Sauer and Craig Smith to the list. Luongo is a former Vezina finalist, imagine if we had that kind of goaltending!?!!?
Find me a quote from any GM's of the full rebuilding teams that said their goal was to tank over and over again.
That would be against the league's rules and subject to a fine.
Show me one other "rebuilding" team, for the sake of argument, that has traded consecutive first round picks and bottomed out 2nd last, 9th last, and 5th last in the seasons after, spending to the cap while doing so.
Funny how YOU thought we were a playoff team, all year long. Once again, just a few weeks ago, you said we were better than Washington and Winnipeg and we will make the playoffs. I don't understand why you've changed your mind since then, and are now stating a full-rebuild.
Claiming this team is playoff-caliber kind of puts a hole in your theory.
You keep insisting I said these things but you have no proof I did. Quote me.
That would be against the league's rules and subject to a fine.
Show me one other "rebuilding" team, for the sake of argument, that has traded consecutive first round picks and bottomed out 2nd last, 9th last, and 5th last in the seasons after, spending to the cap while doing so.
Since it is the show me game:
Show me a Leaf GM that has missed the playoffs four straight seasons in club history.
Find me a quote from any GM's of the full rebuilding teams that said their goal was to tank over and over again.
No GM would come out and say that the goal is to continuously suck and get high picks, but when patience is preached like the gospel and management can identify with the frustration of the process, it's a sign that it's the plan. These are quotes directly from the owner of the Oilers:
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The fact is rebuilding takes time and it’s only possible to rebuild if you have a loyal fan base who are prepared to stick with that strategy. Many teams in the league don’t have the opportunity to rebuild. I think, as I said, It’s only because of our fanbase that we have the opportunity to take this step and that’s exactly what we’re going to do.
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I know it has been frustrating, but I want to assure everybody that we did not get in this to fail. We got into this to return the Oilers into what you call an elite status in the NHL and to give our fans the kinds of experiences they deserve. We are going to be absolutely relentless in pursuit of that goal and we’re going to work hard day in and day out to do something great for the city, for the capital region in the process. This year hasn’t been much fun for any of us. But I have to say looking at the future, it looks very bright.
That would be against the league's rules and subject to a fine.
Show me one other "rebuilding" team, for the sake of argument, that has traded consecutive first round picks and bottomed out 2nd last, 9th last, and 5th last in the seasons after, spending to the cap while doing so.
Makes complete sense, Burke didn't say anything about a tank either yet here we are lottery picking.
No GM would come out and say that the goal is to continuously suck and get high picks, but when patience is preached like the gospel and management can identify with the frustration of the process, it's a sign that it's the plan. These are quotes directly from the owner of the Oilers:
It's a difference in approach.
What's so different about the Oilers and the Leafs over the last few years?
