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06-03-2012, 06:01 PM
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Yea, that was pretty interesting.

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06-03-2012, 06:28 PM
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I saw this posted in the main board. Pretty interesting stuff. Brodziak really had a great year
That's pretty interesting indeed.


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This lack of usable depth talent was a bigger problem than they could have realized. Depth options like gritty Warren Peters, veteran AHLer Jared Ortmeyer and huge thug Matt Kassian put them in a hole almost every time they played, and the players they acquired like Kyle Palmieri, Stephane Veilleux and Erik Christensen could be classified as adequate temporary depth options at their best.
^I don't know why but it made me laugh.

Oh and it's not Kyle Palmieri.

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Why did the Wild trade for Tom Gilbert? Because most of their younger defensemen were being thrown into the wolves (Scandella, Falk & Spurgeon especially) and they needed someone who could be an all-around defenseman and handle tough minutes. Schultz played tough minutes territorially but not in terms of quality of competition. Gilbert is capable of doing both. /CS
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When the dust cleared 21-year-old Marco Scandella and tiny 22-year-old Jared Spurgeon, with a combined 73 games of prior NHL experience between them, joined Gilbert in the top-four, and surprisingly held their own over-all. Minnesota’s depth options were equally inexperienced with only 95 games of combined NHL experience between Nate Prosser, Justin Falk and Clayton Stoner. Mike Lundin, whose 224 games of prior NHL experience practically makes him the team’s Chris Chelios, saw only 17 games, most of it in the front-four. /RV


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06-03-2012, 07:43 PM
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Yeah we need some veteran D on this team. After Gilby there's a severe drop off in experience.

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06-03-2012, 07:54 PM
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"huge thug Matt Kassian" made me laugh as well. I didn't know we were the worst in terms of possession but I definitely believe it.

I really enjoyed looking at the other teams. You can see RNH was really sheltered compared to other rookies.

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06-03-2012, 08:45 PM
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What was Kassians +/- anyway?

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06-03-2012, 08:46 PM
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What was Kassians +/- anyway?
-2 through 24 games. He wasn't that big of a defensive liability. Hell he scored more than he let in.

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06-03-2012, 08:50 PM
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-2 through 24 games. He wasn't that big of a defensive liability. Hell he scored more than he let in.
Yeah that was my impression. Those quotes above seemed to indicate that they felt he was a big liability.

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06-03-2012, 08:59 PM
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Yeah that was my impression. Those quotes above seemed to indicate that they felt he was a big liability.
Don't know what the hell they are talking about. As soon as we dumped Staubby for Kassian, it was a huge upgrade on our 4th line.

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06-03-2012, 09:46 PM
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-2 through 24 games. He wasn't that big of a defensive liability. Hell he scored more than he let in.
Being a -2... no he did not. He was on the ice for 2 more goals against than he was goals for... that's the point of the +/- stat.

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Yeah that was my impression. Those quotes above seemed to indicate that they felt he was a big liability.
A big liability can be explained in many ways. In this case... he kills puck possession for the Wild and does not do much to help in his own zone either.

There's a reason he averaged only 5mins TOI/gm. He IS a liability.

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06-03-2012, 10:07 PM
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Why did the Wild trade for Tom Gilbert? Because most of their younger defensemen
were being thrown into the wolves (Scandella, Falk & Spurgeon especially) and they
needed someone who could be an all-around defenseman and handle tough minutes.
Schultz played tough minutes territorially but not in terms of quality of competition. Gilbert
is capable of doing both.
Makes me wonder why Edmonton traded us Gilbert straight-up for Schultz.

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06-03-2012, 10:10 PM
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Makes me wonder why Edmonton traded us Gilbert straight-up for Schultz.


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06-03-2012, 10:20 PM
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Was probably to ensure the Oilers had a legitimate shot at Yakupov.

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06-03-2012, 10:29 PM
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They wouldn't do that on purpose.

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06-03-2012, 10:32 PM
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At first he was like...



But then he...


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06-03-2012, 10:33 PM
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If he's still there next year I think they have MacKinnon in the bag. Hell, if they play their cards right they can have Jones, too.

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06-03-2012, 10:34 PM
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...And at the draft lottery...


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06-03-2012, 10:45 PM
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Its sad seeing 3 Canadian teams in the top 5.

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06-03-2012, 10:48 PM
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Very sad.

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06-03-2012, 11:00 PM
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Very sad.
Pretty sad not seeing the Wild locking down a top 5 stop. Damn you Koivu and you wanting to play in the WC you son of a *****.

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Pretty sad not seeing the Wild locking down a top 5 stop. Damn you Koivu and you wanting to play in the WC you son of a *****.
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06-03-2012, 11:02 PM
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Even sadder, nope.

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06-03-2012, 11:10 PM
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I love how Oilers fans aren't even embarrassed.. they're just gloating about their prospect pool. What stage of Maslow's Hierarchy involves denial again?

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Oilers fans are blinded. Who cares if you have star players if you can't get out of the bottom five of the league. Its not like they need star players, they'll sell out without them. They might be better trading all of them away for a real team.

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06-03-2012, 11:26 PM
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Makes me wonder why Edmonton traded us Gilbert straight-up for Schultz.
Edmonton wanted a shutdown Defenseman... Schultz supposedly is one. Though he looked completely lost this past season, they were hoping he could re-gain his form with a change of scenery.

Benefit - Wild! Gilbert >>>>>> Schultz on both ends of the ice!

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Benefit - Wild! Gilbert >>>>>> Schultz on both ends of the ice!
Actually the Oilers were extremely happy with Schultz's play.

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