Iginla never gets traded. His legacy remains in Calgary.
Between the Bartschi pick, Cammallerri trade, Akim Aliu pickup, Blake Comeau pickup etc, Jay Feaster has been working a lot of magic lately. If he continues the way he's been going, such drastic action like trading the best player in franchise history won't be necessary.
He was surrounded by flames fan expecting an in depth view of how he sees the franchise a "no" would have been a slap in the face. He was pointing out that several teams have had top picks for a few years and haven't improved any, I don't see a problem with it.
Ok fine, i'm sure as a Flames fan you don't have an issue with it. The entire hockey world did take note of the comment at the time and it was widely viewed as a shot by major media groups. I could honestly care less what you think of it. It was a shot and now it's come back to kick him in the butt.
Ok fine, i'm sure as a Flames fan you don't have an issue with it. The entire hockey world did take note of the comment at the time and it was widely viewed as a shot by major media groups. I could honestly care less what you think of it. It was a shot and now it's come back to kick him in the butt.
How so everything he said was true, and what media groups out side of alberta thought it was a shot I have not seen one.
How so everything he said was true, and what media groups out side of alberta thought it was a shot I have not seen one.
TSN, Sportsnet, thescore, hell it even made ESPN. You are a tough person to reason with as most of your comments are based on non facts. I have nothing left to say to you. You've wasted enough of my time.
This is the year Calgary wants to trade Iginla. If they don't they risk creating a Sundin type scenario. And trust us Leaf Fans, Flames Fans, you don't want that.
Iginla never gets traded. His legacy remains in Calgary.
Between the Bartschi pick, Cammallerri trade, Akim Aliu pickup, Blake Comeau pickup etc, Jay Feaster has been working a lot of magic lately. If he continues the way he's been going, such drastic action like trading the best player in franchise history won't be necessary.
I don't believe they ever went through a proper rebuild, but you can definitely make a case for the Boston Bruins as well. Bergeron, Krejci, Lucic, Seguin, and Marchand were all originally drafted by the Bruins, and they were obviously key players to their Stanley Cup win last year.
It helped that the Bruins were getting handed picks and players from Toronto...
It was a shot at Edmonton directly. If he would have left the team and city out of it it wouldn't have been. You and the Flames owners call it pride and say the fans deserve better. Those are just 5 cent words and phrases to deflect attention from the crappy position that team is currently finding itself in. It's so funny to see people commenting on Edmonton's top draft picks three years in a row and ignoring the fact it is not out of the ordinary for crappy teams to get those high picks for a few years. Vancouver fans conveniently forget they essentially got two first overalls because the Sedins demanded to play together. how long has it taken for that team to rise to the top?
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The Canucks already possessed the 3rd overall pick in the 1999 NHL Entry Draft that was used to select Henrik Sedin. They then acquired the 2nd overall pick to select Daniel as follows.
The Canucks traded Bryan McCabe and their first-round pick in 2000 or 2001 to the Chicago Blackhawks in exchange for the Blackhawks' first round pick (4th overall).
The 4th overall pick acquired from the Blackhawks was then traded along with two third-round picks in the 1999 draft (75th and 88th) to the Tampa Bay Lightning in exchange for the Lightning's first-round pick (1st overall).
The 1st overall pick acquired from the Lightning, along with a conditional third-round pick in the 2000 draft, was then traded to the Atlanta Thrashers for the Thrashers' first-round pick (2nd overall) under the condition that then-Thrashers GM Don Waddell not select either Sedin with the first overall pick.
That 1999 draft was very weak, and Atlanta really struck out with their Patrik Stefan pick at #1. Just look at the first round from that year. There were a few that panned out, Havlat and Jackman, and a couple that played in this league, but it was a weak draft year.
It was at the STH event in the off-season. Somebody asked if he would do a full re-build like the Oilers, he told the fan to look at where Edmonton has finished in the last 2 seasons and where they will finish this season. And he wasn't wrong. It wasn't an unprovoked attack, he simply believes that fans, players... they deserve better.
He said he has too much pride to do what the Oilers are doing, and that "Ken can find another GM if he wants to blow up the team".
Thanks for that. My memory wasn't correct on that one.
I overheard Kevin Lowe discussing Calgary management's position a few weeks back at a restaurant I was at (yes I know it's rude to eavesdrop). He basically said that the Calgary fan base is more fragile than places like Edmonton, Toronto, and Montreal - and that it'd be impossible to just do a re-build there like Edmonton has adopted.
He also said that management simply could not trade Jarome Iginla and expect to sell out games at the Saddledome like they've been doing for so long. He said trading Iginla would tell the fans that the team is giving up on being competitive and starting a re-build - and that interest in the team would dwindle with it. That the Flames would become less profitable as seats wouldn't be filled, and that Jarome was the face of the team and thus the main reason they're selling out every night, etc. He then pointed to the Flames late-90's/early-00's struggles as an example of how fragile their fan-base is to a non-competitive team, and suggested that them going for the "pure rebuild" like Edmonton has would simply mean 2-3 years of huge losses for ownership and fan interest.
I don't know if Lowe has any idea what he's talking about - but I'll admit that before 2004 and that Cup run, I don't remember Flames fan celebrating their team with nearly as much fan fare as they do these days.
Iginla never gets traded. His legacy remains in Calgary.
Between the Bartschi pick, Cammallerri trade, Akim Aliu pickup, Blake Comeau pickup etc, Jay Feaster has been working a lot of magic lately. If he continues the way he's been going, such drastic action like trading the best player in franchise history won't be necessary.
Ha ha...magic...wow....Feaster must be one of the worse magicians I have ever seen in that case....Cammy, Comeau, Blake are all terrible pick ups and Akim is nothing as you will find out next year when he actually has to play with pressure.....Sven is it....that is reality...you guys are old, slow, aging and a cap team with one of the worse prospect pools in all of hockey.....honestly, some Flames are at least honest and realistic but some of you guys are going to be in for a rude shock as your team continues to decline badly over the years to come!
Woah, that's huge. Does anyone have the clip of MacLean saying that or remember the context he said this in. Was this his own speculation or did it sound like he had something to back up his claim?
Ron MacLean is someone I have alot of respect for, but he is hardly an insider. IMO it is likely speculation on his part.
That said if the only move the Flames make this summer is trading Iginla I think the Flames can battle through it and still be a playoff contender. Depth among our top 6 wingers is one of our strengths and I think a 1st line featuring Tanguay and Cammalleri has the makings of a solid line if we can improve our position at center ice (maybe addressed through a potential Iginla trade?) and add a top 4 defenseman (via free agency)
I overheard Kevin Lowe discussing Calgary management's position a few weeks back at a restaurant I was at (yes I know it's rude to eavesdrop). He basically said that the Calgary fan base is more fragile than places like Edmonton, Toronto, and Montreal - and that it'd be impossible to just do a re-build there like Edmonton has adopted.
He also said that management simply could not trade Jarome Iginla and expect to sell out games at the Saddledome like they've been doing for so long. He said trading Iginla would tell the fans that the team is giving up on being competitive and starting a re-build - and that interest in the team would dwindle with it. That the Flames would become less profitable as seats wouldn't be filled, and that Jarome was the face of the team and thus the main reason they're selling out every night, etc. He then pointed to the Flames late-90's/early-00's struggles as an example of how fragile their fan-base is to a non-competitive team, and suggested that them going for the "pure rebuild" like Edmonton has would simply mean 2-3 years of huge losses for ownership and fan interest.
I don't know if Lowe has any idea what he's talking about - but I'll admit that before 2004 and that Cup run, I don't remember Flames fan celebrating their team with nearly as much fan fare as they do these days.
The landscape of hockey in Canada has changed since the lockout. I think since the lockout attendance has risen in all Canadian markets (except those already selling out of course) sibe we lost that year. Sure you can look at the Flames poor attendance during their prolonged playoff drought, but you also have to look at the Oilers attendance during their leaner years prior to the lockout as a comparison if someone is going to make the claim the Flames fanbase is more fragile than that in Edmonton.
From 92-93 to 95-96 the Oilers struggled at the gate, hitting a low in 95-96 with an average attendance of 12,335 but never exceeded an average of 15,000 during that time period.
During the Flames long playoff drought. The Flames hit their all-time low in average attendance (not counting the days before the Saddledome) in 99-00 when it dipped to 15,320, one of only 2 seasons the average attendance dipped below 16,000.
So I am not so sure I buy into the Flames fan base being more fragile (or less loyal) than that in Edmonton. Obviously no one holds a candle to Montreal or Toronto in terms of fan support though.
I know attendance numbers can be fudged by buying the tickets yourself and using them as giveaways, so the numbers may not be entirely accurate ( I wouldn't be shocked if the real numbers were similar to Edmonton's). But I think it shows that at least traditionally the Flames fan base is not as fragile as many make them out to be in comparison to markets like Edmonton.
I want to see Iggy and Teemu both traded to the same contender (as long as it's not the Flyers) and have them win a cup together, then both retire at that point.
I want to see Iggy and Teemu both traded to the same contender (as long as it's not the Flyers) and have them win a cup together, then both retire at that point.
honestly I almost made a proposal of Iggy and Tanguay to the pens. Can you imagine a line of Tanguay - Crosby - Iginla? I don't think it would be very easy under the cap and I am not sure the Pens will pay what it would cost.
