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04-08-2012, 02:43 AM
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I heard the same thing about playoffs at the beginning of the year.
He's a habs fan lol

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04-08-2012, 02:54 AM
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For once hockey gods give us a damn break and let us win it. Please?

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Man, we (the Leafs) need it.

EDM can GTFO because they've already got so many consecutive #1 picks.
CBJ is a hopeless destination.
NYI has Tavares and they're also a pretty hopeless destination.
MTL has a brighter future than TOR -- MTL could make the playoffs next year.

We need this! We've kept half the league afloat with revenue sharing. Sharing is caring. Give us something in return for this disastrously depressing season.

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Man, we (the Leafs) need it.

EDM can GTFO because they've already got so many consecutive #1 picks.
CBJ is a hopeless destination.
NYI has Tavares and they're also a pretty hopeless destination.
MTL has a brighter future than TOR -- MTL could make the playoffs next year.
TOR will waste the pick anyway by trading it away for something of lesser value.

We need this! We've kept half the league afloat with revenue sharing. Sharing is caring. Give us something in return for this disastrously depressing season.
That's more like it.

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04-08-2012, 03:46 AM
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Hopefully Edmonton wins it, just for the lulz.

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04-08-2012, 04:15 AM
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Maybe a stupid question, but what is the point of the dead combo?
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The only explanation I've heard is that #1001 is thrown out to make the percentages equal the number of chances (eg 400 lotto balls would directly translate to 40.0%.)

That explanation sounds a little too simplistic to me, though....
You hit the nail on the head. There are 14 numbered balls and they draw 4. This yields 1,001 different combinations. They (independent firm Ernst and Young) ignores one combination (11-12-13-14) and assigns the remaining thousand combinations to the teams. The NBA uses the same procedure now (but with different percentages and rules regarding the winner).



Here's a picture of the 2008 drawing.

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That guy looks like a Tampa fan. RIGGED!

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04-08-2012, 05:40 AM
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Am I right in thinking that the most a team can move is 4 spots down and 1 up?

So at worse, Columbus would be 29th? At best 30th?

Would be incredible if Edmonton won it again. Who do they pick then? The BPA or a D-man?

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04-08-2012, 05:42 AM
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How is Toronto ranked lower than Anaheim in the final standings?

same points but more wins..

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04-08-2012, 06:04 AM
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Edmonton wins it, drafts Yakupov and assembles greatest offense in NHL history.
With one of the worst defenses in the league.

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With one of the worst defenses in the league.
Sometimes having a "We'll score more than you" philosophy works.

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It would be sweet if Edmonton won. Just to troll HF. HF just hates how the Oilers suck. I predict 16 threads popping up saying it isn't fair.


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How is Toronto ranked lower than Anaheim in the final standings?

same points but more wins..
It goes by Regulation Wins. SO/OT wins do not count.

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04-08-2012, 06:59 AM
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Is this going to be streamed on TSN.ca?

I have this feeling that the Leafs win it this year. I have personally sacrificed 1001 goats and 8.1% of them were virgins.

GO LEAFS GO

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Please. We Islander fans have gone through so much crap for the past (2) decades (way more than any other fan base). We need the 1st overall. The draft is the only way we can assemble talent...

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1. Columbus - Nail Yakupov - RW
2. Edmonton - Ryan Murray - D
3. Montreal - Mikhail Grigorenko - C
4. NY Islanders - Filip Forsberg - C
5. Toronto - Alex Galchenyuk - C
6. Anaheim - Matt Dumba - D
7. Minnesota - Jacob Trouba -D
8. Carolina - Radek Faksa - C
9. Winnipeg - Brendan Gaunce - C
10. Tampa Bay - Morgan Rielly - D
11. Washington (from COL) - Sebastian Collberg - RW
12. Buffalo - Cody Ceci - D
13. Dallas - Zemgus Girgensons - C
14. Calgary - Pontus Aberg - LW

15. Ottawa - Griffin Reinhart - D
16. Washington - Olli Maatta - D
17. Florida - Matt Finn - D
18. Columbus (from LA) - Slater Koekkoek - D
19. San Jose - Brady Skjei - D
20. Phoenix - Tomas Hertl - LW
21. Chicago - Malcolm Subban - G
22. New Jersey - Andrei Vasilevski - G
23. Tampa Bay (from Detroit) - Derrick Pouliot - D
24. Boston - Dalton Thrower - D
25. Philly - Ludvig Bystrom - D
26. St. Louis - Mike Matheson - D

27. Buffalo (from Nashville) - Tom Wilson - RW
28. NY Rangers - Colton Scissons -RW
29. Vancouver - Stefan Matteau - C
30. Pittsburgh - Teuvo Teravainen - RW


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04-08-2012, 08:41 AM
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5. Toronto - Matt Dumba - D
6. Anaheim - Alex Galchenyuk - C
Hfboards would crash if Burke picked Dumba over Galchenyuk.

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Hopefully neither the Leafs or the Oilers win the lottery. I don't think there is much difference this year between picking 2nd or 5th.

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04-08-2012, 09:30 AM
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Hopefully neither the Leafs or the Oilers win the lottery. I don't think there is much difference this year between picking 2nd or 5th.
Replace Leafs with Habs on my end, and I agree.. Obviously.
I truly feel nobody outside of Oilers fans/organization will be okay with them picking first again.

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04-08-2012, 09:37 AM
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How many more years the Oliers will have a lottery picks? It looks loke they got one every year.

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04-08-2012, 09:51 AM
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How many more years the Oliers will have a lottery picks? It looks loke they got one every year.
10th in 2009, 1st in 2010, 1st in 2011, 2nd (pre-lotto) in 2012. It just feels worse because of the two 1sts.

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04-08-2012, 10:07 AM
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The 2012 NHL Draft Lottery is Tuesday at 8 p.m. EDT. There are 1,001 possible lottery combinations. One is dead and forces a redraw, so there are 1,000 valid combinations. Columbus, Edmonton, Montreal, the New York Islanders, and Toronto all have a shot at leaving the lottery with the No. 1 pick.

The odds of winning the lottery are as follows:
  • 30th CBJ = 25.0% (250 combinations)
  • 29th EDM = 18.8% (188 combinations)
  • 28th MTL = 14.2% (142 combinations)
  • 27th NYI = 10.7% (107 combinations)
  • 26th TOR = 08.1% (081 combinations)
    --------------------
  • 25th ANA = 06.2% (062 combinations)
  • 24th MIN = 04.7% (047 combinations)
  • 23rd CAR = 03.6% (036 combinations)
  • 22nd WPG = 02.7% (027 combinations)
  • 21st TB = 02.1% (021 combinations)
  • 20th COL = 01.5% (015 combinations) (Pick actually belongs to Washington)
  • 19th BUF = 01.1% (011 combinations)
  • 18th DAL = 00.8% (008 combinations)
  • 17th CGY = 00.5% (005 combinations)

Columbus has the No. 1 pick going in...
  • Columbus keeps it = 48.2% (482 combinations)
  • Columbus loses it = 51.8% (518 combinations)
Question?
Why do you have the Leafs at the 5th overall pick.
Doesn't that belong to the Ducks.
Both teams ended up with 80 pts
Both are tied in ROW
Isn't the next tie-breaker face to face which the Leafs won their only meeting this season 5-3. That would give the 5th pick to the Ducks wouldn't it?

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04-08-2012, 10:29 AM
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Bettman will rig the lottery for the Leafs with the Winter Classic happening next year.

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Question?
Why do you have the Leafs at the 5th overall
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Isn't the next tie-breaker face to face which the Leafs won their only meeting this season 5-3. That would give the 5th pick to the Ducks wouldn't it?
Head-to-head only applies if there is an even number of games between the two teams, with half being at each team's home venue. Anaheim and Toronto played each other once, nullifying head-to-head as a tiebreak. So it goes to goal differential, which Toronto loses.

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Head-to-head only applies if there is an even number of games between the two teams, with half being at each team's home venue. Anaheim and Toronto played each other once, nullifying head-to-head as a tiebreak. So it goes to goal differential, which Toronto loses.
Just found out just before you posted this.
Thanks for the reply anyways.

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Leafs fail once again when someone bumps them out of the top 5

but I hope the Oil troll the league and hfboards once again and win the lottery

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