I think it will be Theo. Dineen said he put Theo right back in against Washington after he was pulled because he just wanted to give Theo a stern talking-to, but he let him know that he's his guy, and he has been all season. I don't think one performance by Clemmer changed that. I think you gotta go with Theodore, he's been the man all season, and actually he's kinda earned it. If Clemmer craps the bed in Game 1, now you really have a problem.
You also have to think of next season, the Panthers most likley aren't going to do much this postseason. I think starting Theo is best for the playoffs and next season as well.
Theodore for the season is 22-27
Clemmensen for the season is 14-12
Save percentages are nearly the same, with Theodore a couple of tenths of a percent better.
Last 11 games:
Clemmensen: 3-1
Theodore: 0-7
That's not Theo's fault. The Panthers have played pretty badly the last few weeks. I think everyone knew that the Panthers would come out like gangbusters against Carolina to redeem themselves in front of their home fans. If Theo was in net, I think we still win that game. No offense to Clemmer, who played a very good game.
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Originally Posted by luby3131
Jose Theodore has to be the starter. Who got you here? Nobody remembers that stretch in the middle of the season when Theodore played something like 15 games straight and was lights out? Remember the whole trade Clemmensen stage?
It's a tough call, but IMO you always go with your consistent number 1 over the guy who's been hot for 3-4 games.
Exactly. Clemmer is hot for a couple games and now he's your starter? No.
I think it will be Theo. Dineen said he put Theo right back in against Washington after he was pulled because he just wanted to give Theo a stern talking-to, but he let him know that he's his guy, and he has been all season. I don't think one performance by Clemmer changed that. I think you gotta go with Theodore, he's been the man all season, and actually he's kinda earned it. If Clemmer craps the bed in Game 1, now you really have a problem.
You also have to think of next season, the Panthers most likley aren't going to do much this postseason. I think starting Theo is best for the playoffs and next season as well.
Such a tough decision. In NJ no brainer I go clemmer. Here the jury is still out, let's see how practices go.
What I think is possibly a bigger question is how can Tallon not bring back Clemmy after he has played so well. But Markstrom did play well in San Antonio GAA 2.35 SV% .927
I give Clemmer full credit for a great season(for him), but who knows if he's going to play like that next season, or the year after. If I'm Tallon I say it was good luck and helped get us to the playoffs this season, and that's that. Markstrom is the future and he's ready for the NHL. It's not a stretch at all to think he could outplay Theo next season as well.
Big fan of Theo. He was stellar earlier in the year for us. With that said, Clemm has been outstanding lately, against top teams, while Theo has looked pretty shaky. On top of that Clemm would be playing against his former team and the goalie he learned a lot from, and he is in his free agency year. I would go with Clemm as the hot goalie and have Theo ready. My guess is that we'll see both goalies anyway. If we win this series it will be a long well fought back and forth series, at least six games, where both goalies will get their chances. A short series would probably not go in our favor. A little worried about the physical side of the game against NJ, never thought I would ever say that about a deboring coached team. They got three goons who love to run around and hit people and we got very little to stand up to them. We will need to capitalize on the PP when given the chance, or play Barch to at least minimize some of the physical play. Game one will tell us a lot.
Big fan of Theo. He was stellar earlier in the year for us. With that said, Clemm has been outstanding lately, against top teams, while Theo has looked pretty shaky. On top of that Clemm would be playing against his former team and the goalie he learned a lot from, and he is in his free agency year. I would go with Clemm as the hot goalie and have Theo ready. My guess is that we'll see both goalies anyway. If we win this series it will be a long well fought back and forth series, at least six games, where both goalies will get their chances. A short series would probably not go in our favor. A little worried about the physical side of the game against NJ, never thought I would ever say that about a deboring coached team. They got three goons who love to run around and hit people and we got very little to stand up to them. We will need to capitalize on the PP when given the chance, or play Barch to at least minimize some of the physical play. Game one will tell us a lot.
I don't think they will be playing three goons against us though. They just got Zajac back and they are pretty healthy. Their top three lines are Parise-Zajac-Kovy, Sykora-Elias-Zubrus, Ponikarovsky-Henrique-Clarkson. I assume they will have Josefson centering the 4th line, and Bernier has played well for them. They might play Boulton on the other wing, but he doesn't really scare me. Jovo can handle him. Sturm-Madden-Kopecky has been pretty good, and I don't see that line being broken up, not for game 1 anyways. I don't see Barch playing in the playoffs, unless things get out of hand.
Also remember, it works both ways. The Devils know Clemmer very well too.
I don't think they will be playing three goons against us though. They just got Zajac back and they are pretty healthy. Their top three lines are Parise-Zajac-Kovy, Sykora-Elias-Zubrus, Ponikarovsky-Henrique-Clarkson. I assume they will have Josefson centering the 4th line, and Bernier has played well for them. They might play Boulton on the other wing, but he doesn't really scare me. Jovo can handle him. Sturm-Madden-Kopecky has been pretty good, and I don't see that line being broken up, not for game 1 anyways. I don't see Barch playing in the playoffs, unless things get out of hand.
Also remember, it works both ways. The Devils know Clemmer very well too.
Clarkson loves to mix it up and don't forget Janssen, who flies around sometimes recklessly hitting anyone. If Boulton plays, which I doubt he would, that would make three tough guys that I don't think any of our guys can handle. I really don't want Jovo or Guds breaking a hand fighting a fourth line banger. I agree with Clemmer. He has been pretty good against NJ, but in a long series that may run out, so Theo will be needed at some point.
Clarkson loves to mix it up and don't forget Janssen, who flies around sometimes recklessly hitting anyone. If Boulton plays, which I doubt he would, that would make three tough guys that I don't think any of our guys can handle. I really don't want Jovo or Guds breaking a hand fighting a fourth line banger. I agree with Clemmer. He has been pretty good against NJ, but in a long series that may run out, so Theo will be needed at some point.
Clarkson likes to fight, but he's more of a middleweight. I would assume either Janssen or Boulton plays, not both. Jovo can handle himself against those guys, he's always been a great fighter. Janssen scares me more from a running around and banging aspect than a fighting aspect. They don't have anyone to really be feared fighting wise. their best fighter is in the minors. I agree that we will probably see both goalies unless it's a dream series for us and one of them carries us to a series win.
I vote Clemmer. Not only has Theo let in some bad goals in huge games, but he's looked shakey all around. I do not feel confident with him in net and think Clemmer should be given at least Game 1 to prove his hotstreak isn't a fluke.
That's not Theo's fault. The Panthers have played pretty badly the last few weeks.
I think Theodore should take a lot of blame for those losses. In my admittedly non-hockey-playing-and-fan-only eyes, he has not been seeing the puck well. For his last 4 starts, Clemmensen has been making saves that Theodore has been missing.
I was going to say Theo no doubt because he still is indeed our starter, but after thinking for a few minutes about it, if Clemmer is hot right now, you have to pick him and ride him until he cools off. Both have played spectacular overall this year and were the main reason of why we're still alive after the regular season in the first place.
As much as I like Theo and what he's done to get us here, the only logical choice is to ride your hot goalie in the playoffs. Clemmer is 3-0-1 and Theo has nine goals in his last two.
today? clemmenson. there 4 practices before friday's game, however, and the bias has to be toward theo in general - he's your starter and he really has had a very, very good season. don't think dineen is going to name someone any time soon nor should he. he'll have the benefit of watching a bunch of practices, talking with both guys and talking with tallas and you really can't say either choice is wrong so...
today? clemmenson. there 4 practices before friday's game, however, and the bias has to be toward theo in general - he's your starter and he really has had a very, very good season. don't think dineen is going to name someone any time soon nor should he. he'll have the benefit of watching a bunch of practices, talking with both guys and talking with tallas and you really can't say either choice is wrong so...
I don't think they will be playing three goons against us though. They just got Zajac back and they are pretty healthy. Their top three lines are Parise-Zajac-Kovy, Sykora-Elias-Zubrus, Ponikarovsky-Henrique-Clarkson. I assume they will have Josefson centering the 4th line, and Bernier has played well for them. They might play Boulton on the other wing, but he doesn't really scare me. Jovo can handle him. Sturm-Madden-Kopecky has been pretty good, and I don't see that line being broken up, not for game 1 anyways. I don't see Barch playing in the playoffs, unless things get out of hand.
Also remember, it works both ways. The Devils know Clemmer very well too.
I wish... Jacob fractured his wrist in one of the last games of the season. Out 4-6 weeks. Stephen Gionta (Brians little brother) was called up for the last game of the season vs the Senators and scored the game winning goal. Deboer said he might play in the playoffs, but who knows. He's been staying away from playing the goons lately (Boulton, Janssen) So it could be a Carter-Gionta-Bernier 4th line.
I wish... Jacob fractured his wrist in one of the last games of the season. Out 4-6 weeks. Stephen Gionta (Brians little brother) was called up for the last game of the season vs the Senators and scored the game winning goal. Deboer said he might play in the playoffs, but who knows. He's been staying away from playing the goons lately (Boulton, Janssen) So it could be a Carter-Gionta-Bernier 4th line.
Should be a fun series. Good luck.
Yeah this.
I wouldn't worry about Boulton, and Janssen guys. Most Devils fans consensus on that matter is hopefully they won't be playing.
We probably don't wanna see the goons for the Devils any more than you guys do.
I think it will be Theo. Dineen said he put Theo right back in against Washington after he was pulled because he just wanted to give Theo a stern talking-to, but he let him know that he's his guy, and he has been all season. I don't think one performance by Clemmer changed that. I think you gotta go with Theodore, he's been the man all season, and actually he's kinda earned it. If Clemmer craps the bed in Game 1, now you really have a problem.
You also have to think of next season, the Panthers most likley aren't going to do much this postseason. I think starting Theo is best for the playoffs and next season as well.
It shouldn't be about who earned it though. It should be about which goalie gives you the best chance to win, and going off of recent play, Clemmer is that goalie. He's been fantastic in his last few starts whereas Theo has been as shaky as he's been all season. I honestly don't think it messes with Theo's head at all either. I think he'd realize it's what is best for the team, and he'd be ready to go if Clemmer cools off.
