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04-08-2012, 03:18 PM
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1. Mark Messier would be target #1.
2. The Anton would be the first player taken in the expansion draft.
3. Olli Jokinen would be taken second and selected as the captain.
4. Players who haven't done jack and are over the age of 25 would be labeled as "busts."
5. 1st round draft picks are worth more than anything.
6. What was Scott Gomez doing on the power play?
7. We would openly applaud tanking as an organization.
8. Mods wouldn't be able to infract our posts / delete our posts.
9. We would have the best prospects ever.
10. What was Scott Gomez doing on the power play?

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04-08-2012, 03:21 PM
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There was an experiment over here regarding a group of fans buying a football club and the buyers having a say in the running. I think they bought Ebbsfleet United and whilst it originally worked after a while it lost it's appeal.

I think t'd work if people were committed to it. I doubt the NHL would allow us to buy a team as who would the person in charge be? The AHL would be worth it though I reckon.

Potentially, the Wheeling Nailers were looking for a buyer a short while ago, around $1.5million I think. Not the NHL but would be worth it I think. There are 102,639 members which would equate to $14.61 per person.

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04-08-2012, 03:35 PM
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Seeing how half the users are in high school or still living at home, they would have to ask their Mommies and Daddies first

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Potentially, the Wheeling Nailers were looking for a buyer a short while ago, around $1.5million I think. Not the NHL but would be worth it I think. There are 102,639 members which would equate to $14.61 per person.
I think a much better bet would be 5,000 members providing $250 each.

I don't know about everyone here but I'm by no means in a secure financial situation, yet $250 a year would be more than feasible for me to provide for, if nothing else, the opportunity to say " I own part in a sports team ".

The best way to go about it would no doubt be to have the team situated in the most central market among owners.

Let's say the team is situated in New York State and the majority of owners live within a 6-8 hours drive of the stadium. For example.

I also have no doubt there's at least a dozen members here that have several thousands to become majority holders.

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Would we decide on who the president would be, the team name, and the team logo via threads in the polls section?

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Would we decide on who the president would be, the team name, and the team logo via threads in the polls section?

Probably in a "Members" section.

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I think a much better bet would be 5,000 members providing $250 each.

I don't know about everyone here but I'm by no means in a secure financial situation, yet $250 a year would be more than feasible for me to provide for, if nothing else, the opportunity to say " I own part in a sports team ".

The best way to go about it would no doubt be to have the team situated in the most central market among owners.

Let's say the team is situated in New York State and the majority of owners live within a 6-8 hours drive of the stadium. For example.

I also have no doubt there's at least a dozen members here that have several thousands to become majority holders.
I'm in University and I would easily shell out 250$ a year to be a part owner in a unionized NHL team.

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Also, how many fair-weather fans would we have?
Just deny membership for certain fanbases. Problem solved.

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Seeing how half the users are in high school or still living at home, they would have to ask their Mommies and Daddies first
Yeah. I just talked to my mom and dad and they both said it was OK for me to give 250$ to this and they would too, my sister said maybe and my uncle also said yes. We have 4 more buyers.

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Can I be the GM?

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Team has one bad game: "TRADE EVERYBODY! FIRE ALL THE MANAGEMENT!"

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This would be a funny idea for a movie.

It'd be like the Social Network kind of.

I'm going to write it. See you in five years.

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Yes, we would be in 30th place every year tanking, and we would never make any trades because ovi is not worth that 2nd round pick

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we should get everyone to chip in money and buy a franchise. Then make all roster decisions via vote.

It'd be the worst team in the NHL.

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This would be great! I've always wondered what would happen if you traded an entire roster for draft picks.

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What's the cost of an ECHL team vs a junior team?

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I actually like this idea. We would need at one one serious investor ($10,000,000+) who would "run" the team, and then thousands of investors who would support the team annually.

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Ok fine, this cat will be the captain.

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04-08-2012, 05:27 PM
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I'm interested in making this happen so I've done some looking around. The cost of an NHL team would probably be too much and I doubt they'd allow a team such as ours in as a gimmick. They may support a take-over bid but that'd be questionable due to the high number of funds needed and the current economical situation.

An example of the types of prices possible is that the Anchorage Aces, now the Alaska Aces a team in the ECHL was sold for $1.05m in 2003. I think that whilst we would be looking at an AHL team we would have to look lower for anything of reasonable price. An article I saw in another HFboards thread mentioned a cost for operating the Iowa Chops at $2.7m.

If we look at the number of members on here, 102,000 give or take a few thousand I think we can immediately cut that into half by the number of active members meaning that there could be around 61,000 potential investors. Whilst the Iowa Chops got into trouble for not paying on their affiliate contract with the Ducks it sounded to be more a problem with the management than a lack of interest in the team but for clarities sake let's bump it up to $3.0m.

So, those 61,000 putting forward $3.0m. That's $49 dollars each person. Now, naturally some will offer more and less but that's the average. If it costs just $50 dollars a year I'm sure the majority would put towards it. The biggest problem would be finding out which teams could be bought out and kept alive. It's definitely something I would love to see happen.

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We would get Nash, Parise, and Schneider for 2 2nd round picks and some mediocre prospects.

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Mods get bigger shares and legitimate roles in hockey operations ?

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I'm interested in making this happen so I've done some looking around.
An example of the types of prices possible is that the Anchorage Aces, now the Alaska Aces a team in the ECHL was sold for $1.05m in 2003. I think that whilst we would be looking at an AHL team we would have to look lower for anything of reasonable price. An article I saw in another HFboards thread mentioned a cost for operating the Iowa Chops at $2.7m.
So an ECHL costs more to run per year then to purchase? Do any Ahl or ECHL teams make a profit? What about CHL teams there are teams here that fill there arenas and wouldnt they have lower operating costs?

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Haha, I Know this thread is tounge-in-cheek, but my favourite football club, FC Schalke 04, is the perfect example As to Why this wouldnt work.
You See, in Germany, football clubs still have no owners but are just normal Clubs everyone could found. I am One of about 100,000 members of Schalke Football Club, so technically I own 1/100,000 of the Club, like it is the Case with every german football club. So basically, it's the Same As 500,000 HF members owning a Hockey franchise. Unfourtunately though, I don't get to vote on squad selections, Coach sackings or GM hirings. There's Staff that does that, just like in NA Sports.

In the 1970s and 80s though, Schalke was probably there nearest possible to what a HF owned Hockey team would Look like. The members had all the power; they directly voted on the appointment of the club's president and manager, and were at One Point even asked if they would pay an extra fee to make aqcuiring a certain Player possible. Unsurprisingly, These years were by far the worst in the long history of the club, including some relegations. It wasnt until the power of the members was cut drastically that the Club got back on track.

Long story short, the more people there are making decisions, the more chaotic it gets An HFBoards team would surely be incredibly entertaining, but also an utter failiure

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And our team name would be the HFBoard Tanks.

Someone make a logo for this team please haha

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We would definitely have the best prospects in the league.
No. We'd trade our 1st round pick after he doesn't have a hattrick in a game for someone's 4th round pick who had a slick shoot out move.

That is if any GM would deal with us after we offer our 4th liner and a 2nd for their star player.

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