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04-08-2012, 05:47 PM
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Buffalo - Edmonton

Buffalo

Tyler Myers
Luke Adam

Edmonton

2nd Overall pick
Sam Gagner
David Musil

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Buffalo

Tyler Myers
Luke Adam

Edmonton

2nd Overall pick
Sam Gagner
David Musil
Value is fine, I would not be please as a Sabres fan.

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04-08-2012, 05:51 PM
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Buffalo

Tyler Myers
Luke Adam

Edmonton

2nd Overall pick
Sam Gagner
David Musil
I would do it but i doubt Gagner is the guy they would want with Roy, Ellis and Hodgson being the top 3 centers. They would want a guy like Pitlick over Gagner i would think.

2nd overall
3rd rounder
Pitlick
Musil

for

Myers
Adam

I think more realisticly Buffalo keeps Adam and we see a straight swap of #2 for Myers.

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04-08-2012, 06:09 PM
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I would do it but i doubt Gagner is the guy they would want with Roy, Ellis and Hodgson being the top 3 centers. They would want a guy like Pitlick over Gagner i would think.

2nd overall
3rd rounder
Pitlick
Musil

for

Myers
Adam

I think more realisticly Buffalo keeps Adam and we see a straight swap of #2 for Myers.
Buffalo would be taking Grigorenko with #2 overall, and would have Grigorenko Hodgson, 11th(Gaunce, Faksa) or Ennis down the middle with no room or need for gagner. A center coming back as a main piece doesnt work from Buffalo's POV

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04-08-2012, 06:46 PM
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I'd rather keep Myers tbh. Filling a hole just to open up another one.

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Myers is already better than the #2 pick and is super young.

Sabres laugh.

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Myers is already better than the #2 pick and is super young.

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The #2 pick hasn't even played yet.

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The #2 pick hasn't even played yet.

I laugh.


Why would the Sabres send a giant, young established number 1 dman for a player who has never played.

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Why would the Sabres send a giant, young established number 1 dman for a player who has never played.
I'm not sure, but that's not for me to decide. I'm not their GM, so I don't know what he'd value more: a potential huge franchise forward or a great D-man in Myers. And let's not kid ourselves--no one knows that except the Sabres GM.

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04-08-2012, 08:00 PM
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I'm not sure, but that's not for me to decide. I'm not their GM, so I don't know what he'd value more: a potential huge franchise forward or a great D-man in Myers. And let's not kid ourselves--no one knows that except the Sabres GM.
I think everyone knows what you value more. It's pretty much the 101 of GMing.

You take the proven young NHL talent. Every time.

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Value is pretty much there but I cant see the Sabres ever trading Myers. Number 1 Franchise Defense man are hard to get. Not to mention the Sabres have no reason to create 1 hole to fill another... If the sabres make any trades to move up in the draft it will be a package of picks and either defensive prospects (Pysyk, Brennan) or Offensive prospects (Adam, Armia, Sundher) along with an NHL Roster player like Roy, Vanek, or Stafford. With Staffords line doing so well down the stretch i think they will hold onto him.

Its gonna be what can the sabres get for a package of

Roy/Vanek
Pysyk/Brennan
Buffalo's 1st/Nashville's 1st

to

Team with a top 3 pick



So Basically would Edmonton do a trade like that fro the 1st round pick?

Roy
Pysyk
Buffalo's 1st

or

Vanek
Brennan
Buffalo's 1st

For the 2nd overall pick and if needed Horcoff for Salary reasons?

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04-08-2012, 08:19 PM
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Waaaaay too much from Edmonton.

Musil has the potential to be a good shut down, third pairing guy, maybe even a second pairing guy. The 2nd overall pick could land us an elite centre in Girogrenko. Essentially we would be trading an elite centre, a shut down D-man and an established, decent 2C for Myers and Adam.

I wouldn't do it.

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04-08-2012, 09:02 PM
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Fact of the matter, is that Hodgson and Gagner are far too similar for this trade to work for the Sabres.

ESPECIALLY if you're going to throw Myers into the situation.

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04-08-2012, 09:06 PM
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Value is pretty much there but I cant see the Sabres ever trading Myers. Number 1 Franchise Defense man are hard to get. Not to mention the Sabres have no reason to create 1 hole to fill another... If the sabres make any trades to move up in the draft it will be a package of picks and either defensive prospects (Pysyk, Brennan) or Offensive prospects (Adam, Armia, Sundher) along with an NHL Roster player like Roy, Vanek, or Stafford. With Staffords line doing so well down the stretch i think they will hold onto him.

Its gonna be what can the sabres get for a package of

Roy/Vanek
Pysyk/Brennan
Buffalo's 1st/Nashville's 1st

to

Team with a top 3 pick



So Basically would Edmonton do a trade like that fro the 1st round pick?

Roy
Pysyk
Buffalo's 1st

or

Vanek
Brennan
Buffalo's 1st

For the 2nd overall pick and if needed Horcoff for Salary reasons?
Roy, Pysyk and 2012 1st (BUF) for 2012 1st (EDM) honestly sounds pretty good in my book. We'd need to find another suitor for Gagner though. A centre depth of RNH - Roy - Horcoff - Lander is pretty nice.

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04-08-2012, 09:22 PM
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THIS. for buf fans trading myers sounds scary BUT suter,wideman,garrison,j.schultz and stuart are all UFA plus the team has tremendous defesnive depth IMO, this would work rly well trade myers for a true #1 center who's big and can score and then sign 2 defensman to help stop the bleeding
regher-suter
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leopold-garrison doesn't sound so bad eh?

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04-08-2012, 10:23 PM
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Roy, Pysyk and 2012 1st (BUF) for 2012 1st (EDM) honestly sounds pretty good in my book. We'd need to find another suitor for Gagner though. A centre depth of RNH - Roy - Horcoff - Lander is pretty nice.
This team bleeds mediocrity. Pysyk is an average prospect(yes, I watch him a lot on the Oil Kings). Much rather have RNH-Grigorenko-Horcoff-Lander. Yes thats Grigorenko for 7 years over Roy for one

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THIS. for buf fans trading myers sounds scary BUT suter,wideman,garrison,j.schultz and stuart are all UFA plus the team has tremendous defesnive depth IMO, this would work rly well trade myers for a true #1 center who's big and can score and then sign 2 defensman to help stop the bleeding
regher-suter
erhoff-wideman
leopold-garrison doesn't sound so bad eh?
You aren't going to sign all of those guys and if you're going to rely on FA chance to rebuild your team, you're going to have a bad time!

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No way in hell the Sabres do this.

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This is my favorite time or year in hockey when the last place teams who had nothing going for them all year like Edmonton suddenly get this clout that basically they feel on top of the world cuz they have a high draft choice and suddenly other team's top players arent nearly enough for their draft pick lol. I mean we gotta give these team's some time in the year to gloat right?

jk but in all seriousness there is way too many posts about trading up for the #1 and #2 picks, edmonton needs to keep their pick (AND RIGHTFULLY SO) and sabres fans need to stop salivating over grigorenko

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Solid value, just doesn't meet a need for the Sabres without opening up a giant hole on their blueline. They would likely decline.

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Waaaaay too much from Edmonton.

Musil has the potential to be a good shut down, third pairing guy, maybe even a second pairing guy. The 2nd overall pick could land us an elite centre in Girogrenko. Essentially we would be trading an elite centre, a shut down D-man and an established, decent 2C for Myers and Adam.

I wouldn't do it.
I dont know where to start with this post...the first hint that you're reaching was the abundance of times using potential/maybe/could/essentially...none of those terms=established.

Musil has proved nothing and potential shutdown bottom line pairing defenseman are a dime a dozen, POTENTIAL draft choices are flashy and nice but havent played a single game, and saying Gagner is 'established' is a stretch considering edmonton fans and press were ready to ride him out of town until his one huge game and decent second half. I still think gagner as a 2c is a stretch and/or a weak 2c

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No thanks. I think Edmonton gets taken to the cleaners in this deal.

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This team bleeds mediocrity. Pysyk is an average prospect(yes, I watch him a lot on the Oil Kings). Much rather have RNH-Grigorenko-Horcoff-Lander. Yes thats Grigorenko for 7 years over Roy for one
Pysyk an average prospect?

Pysyk is a future top pairing d-man... He is a top prospect not an average one

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Pysyk an average prospect?

Pysyk is a future top pairing d-man... He is a top prospect not an average one
I wouldn't put it THAT high
Pysyk very likely ends up being a petry-esque type player; it will probably be on the second defensive pairing. There is the outside chance that he will become a top pairing dman, but the former seems more likely at this point.

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Pysyk an average prospect?

Pysyk is a future top pairing d-man... He is a top prospect not an average one
I think Gernat and Reinhart outplayed him this season on the Oil Kings. They are 1, and 2 years younger than him as well. No way Pysyk a top pairing dman

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