In all fairness, he doesn't say the team will do nothing, just nothing major. Adding a 2nd pair dman, re-signing PAP, and adding a depth dman and a depth forward may be enough to get this team into the playoffs, but would probably constitute nothing "major".
Say we re-signed PAP, added Filip Kuba, Greg Zanon, Arron Asham and Brandon Prust. We would be returning mostly the same roster, but possibly be improved enough to be a playoff team.
It is pretty obvious the team will have at least two new dmen in the lineup next year. Of our 4-7 dmen, Eaton-Jurcina-Staios-Mottau, maybe one will come back.
I am sure Snow wants to add a top-4 dman, but he knows we won't make a major addition like Suter or Weber. So there won't be big changes. That doesn't mean no changes though.
(Don't get me wrong, not advocating for these additions, I just think these types of moves are possible).
Botta tweeted something that there will be changes to the coaching staff, 1 or 2 assistants won't be renewed. So Allen and Chynoweth are gone I'm guessing. Weight should be back because we had the 7th best powerplay.
HMM can we get some qualified assistants? Or is Jay Pandolfo gonna be appointed to run the PK....
We need to add some quality veterans, especially D-men. But, this team making the playoffs is on the shoulders of Bailey, Okposo, Neilsen, and Grabner. Overpaying Brad Boyes to play here and score 20 goals for us isn't the answer!
But what happens when there's no veterans to push?
Petrov is the only prospect who is even remotely ready to push a "veteran" out of the way. But the problem is, we don't really have any veterans for Petrov to push aside. Okposo, Grabner, Nielsen & Bailey are the only players Petrov can push aside. 3 of the 4 are signed long term, and it's highly doubtful Snow would trade any of them anyway. And even if you are trading 1 of them, if it isn't in a "roster shakeup" type of a move, then just WTF are you getting back for them? A pick? A prospect who is at least 1 year away? What the hell is the point?
So who the hell is Petrov pushing out of the way? Jay Pandolfo? Great, so now Petrov plays on our 4th line?
Seriously Snow, pull your head out of the sand and get this team the support they need. My god.
ummm pa? perhaps he wont take a spot on the first line, but others could shuffle to make space on the 3rd line.
Botta tweeted something that there will be changes to the coaching staff, 1 or 2 assistants won't be renewed. So Allen and Chynoweth are gone I'm guessing. Weight should be back because we had the 7th best powerplay.
HMM can we get some qualified assistants? Or is Jay Pandolfo gonna be appointed to run the PK....
Unfortunately Chynoweth will be gone from the coaching staff, but only because he's being moved to third-pairing defenseman.
As with all of our media anymore, the fact that no one calls out Garth on his BS says it all. Nothing will change until our media gets some teeth.
We need ALL Islanders media to be like Botta, they can't lock out every newspaper, magazine, tv channel, etc...
That, and have the NHL intervene on this cap circumvention and burying a once proud franchise into the core of the planet.
Isles media? No one gives a crap about the Islanders, especially during their offseason..
This circus will continue year in and year out for as long as Wang is on board with this franchise.
And yes I totally agree with the setting the bar low sentiment. Making it very clear he doesn't want anyone to expect anything other than a, "UFAs don't want to play here" summer.
Botta tweeted something that there will be changes to the coaching staff, 1 or 2 assistants won't be renewed. So Allen and Chynoweth are gone I'm guessing. Weight should be back because we had the 7th best powerplay.
HMM can we get some qualified assistants? Or is Jay Pandolfo gonna be appointed to run the PK....
Ya know, when you think about the PP performance under Weight in his first foray as a coach, it actually leads one to believe he may have the goods to be a good coach at some point. Hopefully he has some more time to develop before being anointed the head coach.
ummm pa? perhaps he wont take a spot on the first line, but others could shuffle to make space on the 3rd line.
If PA isn't resigned it's because of $ and no other reason. not because a prospect pushed him out of the way. He's the teams 2nd best forward, he shouldn't be pushed out of the way anyway.
Seriously, are any of you really surprised by this?? If Snow had come out and said "we have big plans for making a few splashes this summer", now THAT would've been a surprise.
He is basically saying that they've got the kids pencilled in for next season, but what he doesn't say is how they'll get to the effing floor!!
I am not surprised by the stupidity of the organization. I am pretty surprised by the honesty though. I mean in years past they said things like "we have the ability to spend."
If PA isn't resigned it's because of $ and no other reason. not because a prospect pushed him out of the way. He's the teams 2nd best forward, he shouldn't be pushed out of the way anyway.
we'll see whether he'll be back...i dont think so for one.
Botta tweeted something that there will be changes to the coaching staff, 1 or 2 assistants won't be renewed. So Allen and Chynoweth are gone I'm guessing. Weight should be back because we had the 7th best powerplay.
HMM can we get some qualified assistants? Or is Jay Pandolfo gonna be appointed to run the PK....
No you have it all wrong. Weight is gone because he showed emotion behind the bench like he actually cared...
I didn't expect major changes.Isles are going with homegrown youngsters.This 2012 draft will be the 5th since Snow started his rebuild.
I expect he will bring in a couple of veteran defenseman,a #4 and a #5.I think we'll see 1-2 of the Bridgeport defenseman and Petrov.If they can get him signed.
I didn't expect major changes.Isles are going with homegrown youngsters.This 2012 draft will be the 5th since Snow started his rebuild.
I expect he will bring in a couple of veteran defenseman,a #4 and a #5.I think we'll see 1-2 of the Bridgeport defenseman and Petrov.If they can get him signed.
So, if they don't resign PAP, which is very likely, and this current team was among the lowest scoring in the league, then how is Snow going to cover that loss AND increase the production?
Please don't tell me it's the "our prospects will mature and produce more and our injured players are now healthy and one of our ELC kids will contribute" b/c that is not the answer.
I would like to think Snow will sign 2 UFA D-men that will not take the team to the bank. I am guessing - Matt Gilroy(puck moving d-man) and Bryan Allen(stay at home d-man with size). Isles wont get much better than that on the UFA market.
Isles media? No one gives a crap about the Islanders, especially during their offseason..
This circus will continue year in and year out for as long as Wang is on board with this franchise.
And yes I totally agree with the setting the bar low sentiment. Making it very clear he doesn't want anyone to expect anything other than a, "UFAs don't want to play here" summer.
This circus will stop when their is an answer on where the team will be come 2015. Wang is managing his liabilities until the arena situation clears itself. He is doing this in case he has to cut loose.
Anyone who knows anything about anything can see this is what he is doing. Had this whole arena situation cleared itself already we'd see a different spending structure.
So, if they don't resign PAP, which is very likely, and this current team was among the lowest scoring in the league, then how is Snow going to cover that loss AND increase the production?
Please don't tell me it's the "our prospects will mature and produce more and our injured players are now healthy and one of our ELC kids will contribute" b/c that is not the answer.
I think the isles have been trying to sign Parenteau.I think they will continue,right up until July 1st.I expect some team with deeper pockets will give Parenteau ridiculous money.
I would not be surprised if Snow took a chance on someone like Huselius or Penner.A player coming off a bad season or injury filled season,willing to take a 2 yr deal.
"We'll go into the draft and free agency with the same mind-set we've had: We'll try to improve the team any way we can, but within the framework of our game plan," Snow said Sunday. "I don't envision any big changes. We have one of the top prospect pools in the league and our core is a good, young group. It's about taking the next step with that core we have."
"I think about some of the games we played against the elite teams in the league, like Detroit [a 5-1 win Jan. 10] or the two wins we had in Philly, and I think this team can compete with anyone," Snow said. "Obviously, consistency was our biggest issue. But it's a matter of maturity with the young group at the core of the team.
Hey Garth. I guarantee, if "our good, young group" played Detroit or Philly in a 7 game play-off series—you know were they both actually show up to play—we are lucky to get a single win in those series , and Detroit most likely ends in 4. This guy and Wang are truly living on a different planet.
I think the isles have been trying to sign Parenteau.I think they will continue,right up until July 1st.I expect some team with deeper pockets will give Parenteau ridiculous money.
I would not be surprised if Snow took a chance on someone like Huselius or Penner.A player coming off a bad season or injury filled season,willing to take a 2 yr deal.
we are about to find out just how sane P.A. Parenteau really is this off season. If P.A. is Insane in the Membrane, we'll see him back here on the Island in October. If P.A. is sane, he will run away from the Wang and Garth show as fast as his legs can carry him and NEVER look back.
This circus will stop when their is an answer on where the team will be come 2015. Wang is managing his liabilities until the arena situation clears itself. He is doing this in case he has to cut loose.
Anyone who knows anything about anything can see this is what he is doing. Had this whole arena situation cleared itself already we'd see a different spending structure.
Thank you and like, 5 others for not diving off the ledge!
This was about a roster shake-up....not signing one of two players. Besides, havent we all seen this episode before? There's going to need to be a few stop gaps to fill the spots that none of the kids are ready to prosper in yet, and until the arena and hopefully the ownership is drastically upgraded, I doubt that help comes in the form of Weber, Suter or Parise.
Although it doesn't translate as well from fishing to hockey, "teach a man to fish" or "give a man a fish," as far as player development goes. As far as the arena deal itself, both that and ownership need to be handled/exorcised before much more can be done.
We never know what Snow's done until he does it due to his keeping secrets, and we know that Wang will be cheap until he gets what he wants. I can't see how anyone didn't expect this and/or got their hopes up for any other kind of announcement, really.
I think the isles have been trying to sign Parenteau.I think they will continue,right up until July 1st.I expect some team with deeper pockets will give Parenteau ridiculous money.
I would not be surprised if Snow took a chance on someone like Huselius or Penner.A player coming off a bad season or injury filled season,willing to take a 2 yr deal.
Until the Isles actually reel in a legit player, they are always gonna have bottom feeders available. Good players recognize this and DON'T want to sign with an organization like that.
Things were changing with Peca acquisition. Same with the Smyth acquisition. Now? Isles play whiner about all things and lose annually. If I was a player, I could care less about how nice LI is to raise a family. I'm wealthy, and always get access to the best schools and neighborhoods. My family is taken care of.
I want either (a) to get paid with longer term security, (b) take less/shorter to sign with a winner - maybe I don't have to either as PHI pays well, (c) get paid A LOT to sign on with a loser.
we are about to find out just how sane P.A. Parenteau really is this off season. If P.A. is Insane in the Membrane, we'll see him back here on the Island in October. If P.A. is sane, he will run away from the Wang and Garth show as fast as his legs can carry him and NEVER look back.
I don't think Parenteau is trying to flee away from the NYI.
I think if they meet his big contract demand,he'd have signed months ago.I don't think his contract demands fit into their budget.
In all fairness, he doesn't say the team will do nothing, just nothing major. Adding a 2nd pair dman, re-signing PAP, and adding a depth dman and a depth forward may be enough to get this team into the playoffs, but would probably constitute nothing "major".
Say we re-signed PAP, added Filip Kuba, Greg Zanon, Arron Asham and Brandon Prust. We would be returning mostly the same roster, but possibly be improved enough to be a playoff team.
It is pretty obvious the team will have at least two new dmen in the lineup next year. Of our 4-7 dmen, Eaton-Jurcina-Staios-Mottau, maybe one will come back.
I am sure Snow wants to add a top-4 dman, but he knows we won't make a major addition like Suter or Weber. So there won't be big changes. That doesn't mean no changes though.
(Don't get me wrong, not advocating for these additions, I just think these types of moves are possible).
Actually what he is saying is significant, because the defenseman the club needs isn't going to be acquired. It is pretty much a given we will have a worse defense next season as the openings on the blue line will be filled in with similar sucky ufas, worse ufas, and kids fresh out of the bridge. That is mailing the season in before we are even at the draft.
You kind of say it, but don't total out what the math behind it screams. No playoffs, and top five pick again next season. How does this not piss people off I do not know.
, and Detroit most likely ends in 4. This guy and Wang are truly living on a different planet.
