Why doesn't Chicago retire #4 Bobby Orr

nds90 · 04-09-2012, 10:13 PM

maybe the white sox should retire griffey's number too lol

Blackhawkswincup · 04-09-2012, 10:46 PM

Krivokrasov is more deserving of having his # retired for contributions to Hawks then Orr

And Gretz got his # retired by league with support of all teams ,, He was the GOAT and did far more for hockey off the ice then Orr

LandofLincoln · 04-09-2012, 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by LarmerAmonteSeabrook

Nobody's number should be put up in the rafters before Steve Larmer. How they let a guy like Mark Bell desecrate his number still pisses me off.

very true. I expect Larmer's jersey retired within the next 5 years.

Blackhawkswincup · 04-09-2012, 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by LandofLincoln

very true. I expect Larmer's jersey retired within the next 5 years.

He has been retired for 17 years now ,, If it hasn't happened yet (And Hawks have had the chance) it isn't happening sadly

LandofLincoln · 04-09-2012, 11:01 PM

The Whitesox should retire Jordan's number.

What about Washington they should retire Jordan's number as well.

Didn't Frank Thomas play in Oakland retire that number.

Orr retired kiss me where it smells funny close this thread before I close a window on my throat.

Cullksinikers · 04-09-2012, 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by brtriad

Retire Kim Johnsson.

We must make sure he is confirmed alive.

MurrayBannerman · 04-09-2012, 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by LandofLincoln

The Whitesox should retire Jordan's number.

What about Washington they should retire Jordan's number as well.

Didn't Frank Thomas play in Oakland retire that number.

Orr retired kiss me where it smells funny close this thread before I close a window on my throat.

Nah, let the Sox put Griffey Jr on the wall.

IU Hawks fan · 04-10-2012, 12:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Blackhawkswincup

He has been retired for 17 years now ,, If it hasn't happened yet (And Hawks have had the chance) it isn't happening sadly

Pilote was retired, what, 40 years? Don't think length since retirement makes a difference

No Fun Shogun · 04-10-2012, 12:44 AM

Glad everyone else shot down this "suggestion."

Bubba88 · 04-10-2012, 07:30 AM

Larmer, JR before him for sure... even Cheli

LandofLincoln · 04-10-2012, 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Bubba88

Larmer, JR before him for sure... even Cheli

What? Are you in your late 20's or early 30's? Have you ever seen Larmer play a game?

Larmer is way ahead of Chelios, and Roenick's good years were here in Chicago so I can see a case for Roenick.

For the guy that posted it has been 17 years snce Larmer played, "Well the 25th Anniversary sounds about right."

coldsteelonice84 · 04-10-2012, 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by IU Hawks fan

Pilote was retired, what, 40 years? Don't think length since retirement makes a difference

IMO, if Magnuson is still alive, neither he nor Pilote get their number retired.

Rocket Richard · 04-10-2012, 12:47 PM

I forgot about Pilot. He should have his # retired too!

MurrayBannerman · 04-10-2012, 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by coldsteelonice84

IMO, if Magnuson is still alive, neither he nor Pilote get their number retired.

But I don't wanna kill Larmer!

Dump and Chase · 04-10-2012, 01:48 PM

To the OP:

Orr was playing sledge hockey by the time he got to Chicago. No way his # should be in the rafters here.

<3 the idea of retiring Gramps Jersey!!! Best clapper ever! Our Sr. A team wore Hawk Throwback jerseys in the 90's. I wore 28 and chewed a pack of gum always.

Blue Liner · 04-10-2012, 03:06 PM

Larmer deserves his number retired long before JR or Chelios, and I'm not even sure he deserves his retired, necessarily. You can make an argument both ways, but generally speaking I think people are too quick and eager to retire numbers.

Loved Roenick as a Blackhawk and still do, but I really don't think he deserves his number retired here, and that's not really a criticism on him and not his fault. He had a great career here but just wasn't here long enough, in my opinion. Same goes for Chelios.

And Lincoln, I'd go easy on jumping all over someone for "being too young" to have watched certain players. You're the same person who said something along the lines of Keenan having nothing to work with on his rosters while coaching here if I do recall correctly...

Blackhawkswincup · 04-10-2012, 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by IU Hawks fan

Pilote was retired, what, 40 years? Don't think length since retirement makes a difference

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Hawks didn't give Pierre a night of appreciation in which he dropped puck before game like they did Larmer not that long ago

It clearly shows they have no interest in retiring his # as that would have been perfect time to do it... Instead they gave him a puck and took his photo that was it

massivegoonery · 04-10-2012, 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Rocket Richard

I forgot about Pilot. He should have his # retired too!

Ugh, again...

Pilot:

Pilote:

BBH · 04-10-2012, 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by massivegoonery

Ugh, again...

Pilot:

Pilote:

Damn, stole my post.

DisgruntledHawkFan · 04-10-2012, 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by MurrayBannerman

That was a great game. Maybe we should retire Michael Peca's knee. Its eternal resting place is the UC.

I was at the game. I remember Vandermeer blowing Peca's knee and Smolinski scoring shorthanded.

As to the #4 being retired: lol wut

Hawkster · 04-10-2012, 04:46 PM

Doug Wilson and Steve Larmer are the only two players whose number I'd even consider retiring at this point.

HossTheBoss · 04-10-2012, 05:04 PM

I don't even think player numbers should be retired.. so I'm going to go with no on Orr. Great player, great man.. but no.

ChiGuySez · 04-10-2012, 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Rocket Richard

I forgot about Pilot. He should have his # retired too!

Clue phone

BobbyJet · 04-10-2012, 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by coldsteelonice84

IMO, if Magnuson is still alive, neither he nor Pilote get their number retired.

First off, Pilote and Maggie should not be mentioned in the same breath. PP, imo, is a borderline hall of famer, while no one had more heart than Keith but he just didn't have the skill of a Pilote.

As for the OP question. At the time, as a Hawk fan, I was proud that the Hawks gave him that chance to finish his career here. Excited in fact, but I think Bobby Orr himself, would be the first to laugh off the suggestion that his number be retired in Chicago after what went down. No, actually I think he'd be embarassed. Though his intentions to come to the Hawks where admirable, his knee was too far gone and he just coudn't go. It still saddens me.

And I have no doubt whatsoever, that he was better than Gretzky. It wasn't even close, in fact.

Bubba88 · 04-11-2012, 03:45 AM

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Originally Posted by LandofLincoln

What? Are you in your late 20's or early 30's? Have you ever seen Larmer play a game?

Larmer is way ahead of Chelios, and Roenick's good years were here in Chicago so I can see a case for Roenick.

For the guy that posted it has been 17 years snce Larmer played, "Well the 25th Anniversary sounds about right."

And all 3 are way ahead of Orr... and this is what I said