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What is the number one reason for the Oilers not having more success this season?

View Poll Results: What is the number one reason for the Oilers not having more success this season?
Veterans underachieving 80 60.61%
Injuries 9 6.82%
Tom Renney 10 7.58%
Steve Tambellini 33 25.00%
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04-09-2012, 10:25 PM
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Veterans underachieving, but more so its that fact that renney kept going to them. Its fine if you suck, just play the 'easy' minutes but renney kept putting them out there for the hard minutes and they kept disappointing. Success should be rewarded with more ice time yet it wasn't.

Oh harti had a 2 goal game? better move him down the line up.

Jones has been bad? better play him on the top line.

Belanger struggling with offence? extra attacker shootout attempt

Kids playing extremely well? bench them.
He kept playing Ryan Smyth to the bitter end even tho Smyth looks like he was on his last leg.

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04-09-2012, 10:56 PM
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He kept playing Ryan Smyth to the bitter end even tho Smyth looks like he was on his last leg.
And Smyth finished with one less point than Gagner...after his 5 game anomoly. Too bad this team didn't have a few more bad players like Smyth to put up 40+ points...Hemsky.

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Seemed at the end as if when Eberle or Nugent-Hopkins didn't get in on a goal, there was no goal. Veterans under-achieving.

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04-09-2012, 11:08 PM
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Seemed at the end as if when Eberle or Nugent-Hopkins didn't get in on a goal, there was no goal. Veterans under-achieving.
Does that include Hemsky/Gagner in the veteran category?

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04-09-2012, 11:39 PM
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Does that include Hemsky/Gagner in the veteran category?
obviously.. no here is saying that Hemsky had a decent season... Hemsky sucked.. but so did Smyth in the last 44 games. Not sure why you want to debate Hemsky vs Smyth here.

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04-09-2012, 11:53 PM
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obviously.. no here is saying that Hemsky had a decent season... Hemsky sucked.. but so did Smyth in the last 44 games. Not sure why you want to debate Hemsky vs Smyth here.
Blame the vets...that has to include the second line including Hemsky/Gagner. We only wish Hemsky could have reached Smyth-like numbers...

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04-09-2012, 11:59 PM
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The Oilers were bad because of bad players on the team.

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04-10-2012, 12:23 AM
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The Oilers were bad because of bad players on the team.
Now if only we could all put our fingers on who is responsible for choosing the make up of the team.

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04-10-2012, 02:06 AM
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Lack of leadership. Need to see the leaders on the team motivate everyone to not give up, to actually fight to the bitter end. I don't want to see another game where the Oilers just don't put in the effort.

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04-10-2012, 02:22 AM
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The Oilers were bad because of bad players on the team.
Yup. Can't make chicken salad out of chicken sh--.

Tambellini gets an F. If you actually thought this team could have done better, you were fooling yourselves back in September.

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04-10-2012, 09:21 AM
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Mix of everything listed. Keep in mind we had the #2 PP in the league and Smid led our d-men in goals with 5.

Eberle, Hall and RNH gave us a fighting chance. If they had stagnated, could have been worse than last year.

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Yup. Can't make chicken salad out of chicken sh--.

Tambellini gets an F. If you actually thought this team could have done better, you were fooling yourselves back in September.
Yup. All these posters blaming the vets are fooling themselves.

Most of Tambellini's NHL stable aren't even NHL players.

Hordichuk's useless.
Eager won't play his role.
Petrell's not an NHLer.
Potter's an AHLer.
Sutton's too slow and stupid to deserve a roster spot.
Hartikainen's not ready.
Lander's not ready.
Paajarvi's not ready.
Omark's not ready.
Peckham can't overcome a slow brain and slow feet.
Teubert isn't even close to being ready.
Barker was and is a known quantity of horrendous.

Now these players may be decent AHLers and good people, but they're terrible NHLers. The blame lies on Tambellini for this circus. I'm pretty damn sure he doesn't have a clue as to how to do his job.

The vets and young stars can't carry all this fecal matter.

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04-10-2012, 10:47 AM
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Inconsistent goaltending would be my vote.

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E) None of the above.

It's not the veterans fault they had two holes in their top 6, didn't have a #1 or #2 blueliner, or, have adequate goaltending provided to them by Dubnyk or Khabibulin. Who can we blame for the players that aren't here? Are there just too many teams and not enough talent to go around? Looks like it to me. Above average ticket prices for below average hockey, who would have thought this would thrive and be embraced here.

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D-fence and Goal tending let down the oilers

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Coaching and vets performing badly.

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Yup. Can't make chicken salad out of chicken sh--.

Tambellini gets an F. If you actually thought this team could have done better, you were fooling yourselves back in September.
So we wouldn't have been any better if we had Hemsky scoring at the same clips that he used to? We wouldn't have been better if Whitney didn't lose most of his mobility? If Belanger didn't have a massive point drop off? If Renney would actually coach worth a damn? We could've been a better club, no doubts about it. A playoff team? Hell no, but better than what we were? No doubt in my mind.

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None of the options on the list are the reason.

Katz hires all those guys, remember?

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I'm not sure how anyone could vote for anyone besides Tambellini.

Smyth played about as well as could be expected given his age. Put up similar points to last season.

Khabibulin gave the Oilers exactly what most thought he would. 40 year old goalies don't have bounce back seasons.

Gilbert played great for most of the season, Schultz was good in replacement.

Shawn Horcoff didn't have a season that anyone would be surprised by.

Barker gave exactly what two other NHL teams thought of him. Nothing.

Smid had his best season yet. Gagner gave what can be expected based on his history.

Eager, Sutton, an Hordichuk are plugs and gave their normal performance.

Who's left? Hemsky, Whitney, and Belanger.

Belanger underachieved sure. So what. He's a third line center. He wasn't terrible defensively.

Hemsky for sure had a disappointing season, Whitney too, but they were both hampered by injuries. That's something we should expect from them at this point. Heck, Tambellini knew Whitney was struggling to be ready to even start the season. Should have known the same about Hemsky.

When the majority of veterans gave expected or better performance, and three vets, two of which were coming into the season with known injury concerns disappointed, how can we blame the vets??

Management, dropped the ball big time if they intended on this team being competitive this season.
Bang on my friend!

Why people are mad at these guys for doing what they do is crazy. I dont hate that our average players played average, I am mad that the average players are 1) on our team and 2) played so much.

It is time to move on from the black hole that Lowe and Tambo have put us in. Any idiot can rebuild by being the worst hockey team all the time. This is the best job security in the world, announce we are rebuilding and 8 years later of bottom feeding fans still happy. What a joke.

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So we wouldn't have been any better if we had Hemsky scoring at the same clips that he used to? We wouldn't have been better if Whitney didn't lose most of his mobility? If Belanger didn't have a massive point drop off? If Renney would actually coach worth a damn? We could've been a better club, no doubts about it. A playoff team? Hell no, but better than what we were? No doubt in my mind.
Then you can look at the flip side and be thankful that guys like Eberle, Smid, Petry etc.. stepped their game up.

Very hard in today's NHL to see a whole team playing their A game all year. Not everyone can be scoring.

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Then you can look at the flip side and be thankful that guys like Eberle, Smid, Petry etc.. stepped their game up.

Very hard in today's NHL to see a whole team playing their A game all year. Not everyone can be scoring.
Oh no doubt, however it works both ways, Paajarvi fell off a cliff, Omark was cast off early, etc. That said had we had a 2nd line this year we could've been a lot better.

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It is a poorly constructed team by the GM. It has been for years now. No depth on defense and inconsistent goaltending at the best of times.

This mess falls squarely on the GM's head. It's a joke that he is going to be brought back after far and away the worst 3 years in franchise history. Close to 3 of the worst years of any team ever.

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Vets, with honourable mention going to Tambi.

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It is a poorly constructed team by the GM. It has been for years now. No depth on defense and inconsistent goaltending at the best of times.

This mess falls squarely on the GM's head. It's a joke that he is going to be brought back after far and away the worst 3 years in franchise history. Close to 3 of the worst years of any team ever.
Which leds me to believe that this was apart of ST's plan all along.

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