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Duchene is the best player in the deal by far so I'm still not even sure this would get it done, but its closer. Not big on Enstrom, rather go find a defenseman through UFA.
I understand these are hypothetical proposals, but Matt Duchene will never get traded from the Avs unless he either requests a trade, or is playing so poorly that there is no hope for him, which is not likely to happen. To get Matt Duchene, you need to overpay, and Enstrom/Burmistrov/Sol, though a really good package that would likely get it done from an outsiders point of view, won't get it done from the avs' point of view
If Colorado has a surplus of centers why would they trade for a center?
Because they don't have a surplus of Centers? They have as many as they need, which is why if they trade one getting another center back would be very appealing.
I think Duchene and Elliott for Enstrom and Burmistrov is the smoothest fit. Avs give the greater potential but the Jets take the bigger risk of that potential getting reached. I think Burmi and Elliott or comparables while Enstrom and Duchene are the big difference in this trade. Could see the Avs trying to hold onto Elliott and offering Barrie with a second round pick instead.
I understand these are hypothetical proposals, but Matt Duchene will never get traded from the Avs unless he either requests a trade, or is playing so poorly that there is no hope for him, which is not likely to happen. To get Matt Duchene, you need to overpay, and Enstrom/Burmistrov/Sol, though a really good package that would likely get it done from an outsiders point of view, won't get it done from the avs' point of view
I'm not so sure about that. We all love Dutchy because he grew up an Avs fan and has great talent. But if we strike out on finding EJ a partner this is the type of trade that we could be looking for. With the Staz playing well again and Factor breaking out, our need for Duchene isn't as huge as it once was, stick Burmistrov on the third line with Olver and Jones or Downie and the Avs still have 3 scoring lines and EJ has a legit partner so that we can stop cycling bottom 4 guys through that position.
The idea of trading Duchene for Enstrom is rather preposterous if for no other reason than the fact that Enstrom has one year remaining on a contract before UFA status, while Duchene is years away from being a UFA.
That fact alone seems inconsistent with the recent philosophy of the Avalanche's management. Duchene is over 8 years younger than Enstrom, and Enstrom would immediately become one of te older players on the Avs' roster. It just doesn't seem like a move the Avs would make.
I get the point, but isn't it significantly better than that? Take out the teams that would be limited by the cap hit, and I think there are probably less than 10 serious contenders for Suter's services--and Colorado certainly has the space and need to make an attractive offer--a Suter-EJ pairing could anchor the blue-line for the next decade.
As an Avs fan, I wouldn't be interested in trading Duchene to the Jets unless Burmistrov or Little are pieces of the deal along with Enstrom.
Barrie has a lot of value as well.
Doesn't make much sense either, why would the Jets move their first draftee?
I can see wanting to get a centre back if the Avs were dealing Duchene. But if we start with a hypothetical trade around Burmistrov and Duchene being the key pieces, and if the Jets needed to add because of higher potential, the additional piece is not Enstrom.
If the Jets and Avs were going to make a swap, it would make more sense for it to be either an Enstrom and Stastny type deal, or a Burmistrov / Duchene type deal. (with adds where necessary on both).
The former makes more sense from a team needs perspective while the latter just seems like a lateral for both teams.
I can see wanting to get a centre back if the Avs were dealing Duchene. But if we start with a hypothetical trade around Burmistrov and Duchene being the key pieces, and if the Jets needed to add because of higher potential, the additional piece is not Enstrom.
If the Jets and Avs were going to make a swap, it would make more sense for it to be either an Enstrom and Stastny type deal, or a Burmistrov / Duchene type deal. (with adds where necessary on both).
The former makes more sense from a team needs perspective while the latter just seems like a lateral for both teams.
As much as I like Burmistrov and Enstrom neither of them is close in terms of value to Duchene for various reasons.
I can see wanting to get a centre back if the Avs were dealing Duchene. But if we start with a hypothetical trade around Burmistrov and Duchene being the key pieces, and if the Jets needed to add because of higher potential, the additional piece is not Enstrom.
If the Jets and Avs were going to make a swap, it would make more sense for it to be either an Enstrom and Stastny type deal, or a Burmistrov / Duchene type deal. (with adds where necessary on both).
The former makes more sense from a team needs perspective while the latter just seems like a lateral for both teams.
Well it's not Burmistrov + Enstrom for only Duchene, Barrie is a young NHL-ready defender that formerly won defenseman of the year in juniors.
I like Burmistrov a lot, but I have a feeling that Sherman would target Little ('06 draftee).
So tell me, Little + Enstrom = Duchene + ?
If you'd rather talk Stastny than Duchene, I still am not comfortable with the Avs moving a center without targeting a guy like Burmi/Little in the deal who could play center or wing if needed. Stastny and O'Reilly more than Duchene due to the fact Duchy still has maturing to do.
