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04-10-2012, 01:39 PM
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Because this team has few options of defenseman that can one time it. Seabrook is the only skilled D-man with a hard one-timer.

Bickell guy has a deceptive wrister and decent one-timer.

I'm sick of skilled guys that pass the puck.

Sharp Toews Stalberg
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that is my first unit

Shaw Bolland Frolik
Brunette Oduya 2nd unit

Keith is terrible on the powerplay he can PK
Hossa PK non aggressive on PP

Bickell should be used on the powerplay
hm, Hossa is PP scoring leader with 9 PPG plus 11 PPA ...


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hm, Hossa is PP scoring leader with 9 PPG plus 11 PPA ...
What's most hilarious about LoL's post that nobody's pointed out is he has Brunette on the point.

And Panzer really just needs to find a new team. I can't imagine hating my team so much just because they're not perfect. This guy could win the lotto and do nothing but complain about how he had to pay taxes on it.

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I totally agree. I don't understand how it could be otherwise.
I really like Krüger, you all know this. Now in the POs, we need to get the most out of our Players and PP. I don't see him scoring on the PP in the POs

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What's most hilarious about LoL's post that nobody's pointed out is he has Brunette on the point.

And Panzer really just needs to find a new team. I can't imagine hating my team so much just because they're not perfect. This guy could win the lotto and do nothing but complain about how he had to pay taxes on it.
Yeah, I totally understand being mad at the organization and there is nothing wrong with not liking a player or two on the team, everybody has their couple of guys. But most of those guys are busting their butts and playing well and you have to root for that and that has to be the most important thing at all times as a fan IMO. It's just like when you play, there are guys you like and guys you don't, guys you think are doing the right things and guys who aren't, but when you step on the ice together, nothing else matters except the win.

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04-11-2012, 08:19 AM
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Kruger hasn't scored in 11 games playing on the second line and getting powerplay time. I guess Q thinks he's due to bust out at any time.

I don't dislike the guy but I can't help thinking that he gets opportunites that he hasn't earned. It goes right back to training camp when Pirri clearly earned a spot over him. In no time Pirri was gone and Kruger was back. Since then he enjoys top minutes in key situations whether he produces or not. Other rookies like Hayes, Olsen and Shaw lose their spots whenever they falter.

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Kruger hasn't scored in 11 games playing on the second line and getting powerplay time. I guess Q thinks he's due to bust out at any time.

I don't dislike the guy but I can't help thinking that he gets opportunites that he hasn't earned. It goes right back to training camp when Pirri clearly earned a spot over him. In no time Pirri was gone and Kruger was back. Since then he enjoys top minutes in key situations whether he produces or not. Other rookies like Hayes, Olsen and Shaw lose their spots whenever they falter.
It makes no sense. Bolland steps up big every playoffs. You put him on the ice as much as you can IMO.

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04-11-2012, 01:52 PM
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Kruger hasn't scored in 11 games playing on the second line and getting powerplay time. I guess Q thinks he's due to bust out at any time.

I don't dislike the guy but I can't help thinking that he gets opportunites that he hasn't earned. It goes right back to training camp when Pirri clearly earned a spot over him. In no time Pirri was gone and Kruger was back. Since then he enjoys top minutes in key situations whether he produces or not. Other rookies like Hayes, Olsen and Shaw lose their spots whenever they falter.
Pirri got the spot and after playing bad D got sent down asap. He got another chance and still couldn't play D at the NHL level.

Krüger started the year and the first 35 games in the Bottom 6. He played his way up on the depth chart and took the chance we've had with the lack of NHL Centers

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04-13-2012, 01:11 AM
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So the No. 1 unit fails to come through, and the No. 2 unit now looks completely craptastic. Put Shaw on the No. 1 unit in front of the net (unfortunately) and let Toews man the point. Demote Sharp and Hossa to the second unit, if they're refusing going to shoot.

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What a well coached PP.

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04-13-2012, 06:36 AM
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What's most hilarious about LoL's post that nobody's pointed out is he has Brunette on the point.
No, what's most hilarious is that he doesn't have Kane on either unit.

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If the Hawks played with the same urgency 5-on-4 as they did last night 6-on-5, this PP might be dangerous.

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Put Mayers back on the PP, he has been one of the only people on the team who can routinely get to the net and keep his position. Other Hawks players either don't go there or do flybys because they aren't strong enough to keep their position.

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do we actually miss Kopecky for our PP?


And he loaded up the 1st unit all right, its chock full of ****

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do we actually miss Kopecky for our PP?


And he loaded up the 1st unit all right, its chock full of ****
Yeah, the Hawks PP won't do anything with 5 guys along the boards and at the point. Watching their PP is painful because teams don't have to worry about anyone in the middle, skill on the outside is great when their is net presence but when there isn't any it's easy to stop.

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there's not reason a group of toews-kane-hossa-sharp-_____ should struggle this much.

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there's not reason a group of toews-kane-hossa-sharp-_____ should struggle this much.
Again, no net presence. The Hawks PP was great when they had guys like who would get in a goalies face and make him uncomfortable. On the PP goalies don't have to fight to see the puck, don't have to bettle to get position, don't have to scramble for rebounds, it's like a practice for them. Get people in the goalies face, make life uncomfortable and difficult and score some goals.

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Again, no net presence. The Hawks PP was great when they had guys like who would get in a goalies face and make him uncomfortable. On the PP goalies don't have to fight to see the puck, don't have to bettle to get position, don't have to scramble for rebounds, it's like a practice for them. Get people in the goalies face, make life uncomfortable and difficult and score some goals.
Toews has provided a decent amount of net presence on the first unit the last 2 years. Hell, he was doing it in the WCSF against Vancouver the year Chicago won the cup. The main problem with the power play is bad passing and the inability to set up a good cycle.

Pass from the point to the side boards and back, down to the other side boards, back to the point, then down to the goal line is not an effective cycle. They're just not drawing defenders out of position because nothing they're doing is threatening. Too much standing still without the puck.

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teams just collapse into a 12x12 square because they don't have to respect any shots by the dmen

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Game 1 loss because of the Powerplay? A: probably a reach, but maybe some truth to it.

If the Blackhawks can't average 3-4 say 3.5 goals a game against Phoenix in the series I'm not sure they get out of round one.

Sure the Coyotes defense is good. Toews, Kane, Hossa, Sharp, Keith & Seabrook should be able to find more than 2 goals a game between them.

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also, the hawks have never heard of a one timer. every time they manage to open an area to shoot at with a cross ice pass they just receive it and by the time they shoot the goalie has gotten over.

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Game 1 loss because of the Powerplay? A: probably a reach, but maybe some truth to it.

If the Blackhawks can't average 3-4 say 3.5 goals a game against Phoenix in the series I'm not sure they get out of round one.

Sure the Coyotes defense is good. Toews, Kane, Hossa, Sharp, Keith & Seabrook should be able to find more than 2 goals a game between them.
It's definitely a factor. They had 4 opportunities to cash in, they convert on just one of them and suddenly the game looks very different.

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