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04-10-2012, 01:03 PM
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The player making $4.2M had fewer goals and points than the player making $1.875M. With a bigger paycheck come bigger expectations.
This.
It's kinda obvious. And it's not like AA hasn't got his portion of **** for not producing.

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04-10-2012, 01:12 PM
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Why use last years numbers? Last year I cant remember anyone being on Dubi's case as they have been this year?

To me, it's Salary vs Production and the idea of who to perhaps remove for an upgrade. In addition I think Dubi seems like a bit of an ass, haha.
That's what I'm trying to figure out. In fact, I thought Anisimov got beat up by the posters a bit last year.

So when people ask why Dubinsky is getting beat up, let's post the stat that says 10 goals.

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04-10-2012, 01:42 PM
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Bigger contract, holding out, frustrating and erratic play. Kid thinks he's a scorer who grinds, when he's really a grinder that can score.

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He's on Tort's good side? He's gone for long stretches on the 4th line. What's Tort's bad side look like, Hartford or being a healthy scratch for John Scott?
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I think the problem with both Anisimov and Dubinsky is they lack hockey IQ. And neither of them know what kind of player they are.
Yeah, and that's what sucks. Because in each of them is locked away an exceptional player if they did know what their identity is. They're the types of players that you can only hope will eventually "get it" the more they play. Sometimes guys need until their late 20's to more or less figure it out. But those guys often don't get to that point with their original team.

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Dubi is paid far more than AA. AA has given good production per dollar, Dubinsky has not.

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its all about the $$$ if dubi put up the same production making anisimov money he'd be getting much less grief.

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Both Dubi and AA had down seasons.

But, Dubi didn't lose a bunch of friends on a plane crash to start the year...AA did. i have no clue how much that affected him, but i have to figure it DID affect him somewhat.


Dubi also makes more than double what AA does while producing less.

Ill give AA a pass, but id still trade both of them for Nash.

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04-10-2012, 02:53 PM
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They both have a chance to redeem themselves.

I'm one of the most optimistic guys here. Even I know that what they produced cannot happen again.

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04-10-2012, 06:58 PM
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Anisimov is the S word - soft.

Which makes it all the more surprising he doesnt get more flack around here.

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04-10-2012, 07:21 PM
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leaving their contracts out of the original post is the biggest and best reason why dubi is getting called out and not so much AA. you can't not look at the dollars in a salary cap sport.

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04-10-2012, 07:27 PM
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Anisimov worries me. He just seems unable to make anything happen on his own. The 2nd line has looked AWFUL with him on it.

Step cooling off doesn't help.

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04-10-2012, 07:31 PM
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Anisimov worries me. He just seems unable to make anything happen on his own. The 2nd line has looked AWFUL with him on it.

Step cooling off doesn't help.
Those two have been ghosts as of late, just as the games started meaning more and the physicality ramped up.

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04-10-2012, 07:35 PM
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My problem is with the salary they make and how I view them as a player:

AA could be better, but at his salary I can tolerate it, no problem

As far as a Dubinsky..... he's completely frustrating, and its only because I know he can be a complete player and a huge game-changer.... but he hasn't proved it yet


and I love both players

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I'm not a Dubi hater, but it's pretty upsetting to see someone who makes a $4.2 mil/yr struggling like that. But it does happen.

For what it's worth, Anisimov makes $1.875 mil/yr.

This! Dubi has also held out on his previous contract & wasn't easy to negotiate on this one.

Dubi has also come off to me any way that he thinks he is better than he is, at this point of his career anyway. I definetly think Dubi is better than the point he put up this year, but not as good as the points he put up 2 years ago, Right now he is over paid. Dubi has 3 years to proof he is worth his contract.

Anisimov is making way less money & is a 3rd line center that might develop to a 2nd line player evantually. He is quiet & pretty much goes about his business.

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Anisimov worries me. He just seems unable to make anything happen on his own. The 2nd line has looked AWFUL with him on it.

Step cooling off doesn't help.
Anisimov and Stepan shouldn't be playing together right now. They are both struggling, turning over the puck, not being as physical as they can be, etc. And Callahan hasn't looked as good when he's playing with them. I think that line could be a problem during the playoffs.

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04-10-2012, 09:19 PM
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contract. all about the contract. I'm pretty sure Anisimov's point droughts directly correlate to his time not playing with Stepan and Gaborik. He got stuck playing with Boyle and Mitchell, offensive dynamos in their own right of course when reunited with Stepan and Gaborik, he goes gang busters. We hit a losing streak, line is broken up, he stops producing. Otherwise, he is providing solid offensive production throughout the season. It's also easier to overlook some of his drought to his linemates which we can pin on Torts.

Dubinsky had one good month. I think that was before he got injured which totally sucked because I think that his play would have been the difference in several of the games he missed. Outside of that month however, we saw consistent but mostly mediocre production. His low goal total also stands out more. And again, when you contract that play with his salary, it's just an easier target.

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[QUOTE=Rangerfans;47655337]The biggest reason is because of Dubi's new contract that he signed. For the amount of money per year he is getting, he needs to produce more. It is too glaring not to mention.

your right, I mean clarkson got a little under 3mil I think this year and 30 goals later......very satisfied.

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Some people are predicting that Dubinsky will show up for the playoffs. "He always does" or something like that. I bit my lip when I read that kind of attitude.

Truly, I want to see Dubinsky show up. **** all that talk about defense. Since when do you sign off on making a real effort to score just because you 'gave at the office' defensively?

Dubinsky simply has to, as they say, contribute. On the scoreboard.
Damned right he gets dogged on.


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