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That isn't a price, it's a shakedown. Anaheim isn't owned by Dan Snider.
Among the defensemen,Murray was at the top of my wishlist,but I expected the Oilers to take him at #2.Now that is out the wndow.
From what Columbus fans are saying,Johnson has been really good.I think Columbus has their stud blueliner to build around.With Nash's trade demand,I hope they look for a forward:Grigs/Galchenyuk/Forsberg.
Then Montreal takes one of Grigs/Galchenyuk.
Isles,who lost out on Larsson last yr,takes Murray.
De Haan and Murray play 3rd pairing minutes for the NYI next season.
No, his name came up because of the possibility of losing Nash.
I don't think you'll get that sort of return and still end up picking in the top ten. That is incredibly ambitious. With the luck you guys have had this year, I hope someone is willing to pay that much, but it's more likely that trading down in the top ten brings near-NHL talent instead of an established star.
To ANA
Nino
NYI 1st
Maybe another pick or prospect to even it out.
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Originally Posted by duxfan8
This is the only offer remotely close to fair value
No it isn't. You trade a guy with 30 goals every year since hitting the NHL + 6th overall to NYI to move up 2 spots and get a prospect with one goal to his credit. Unless that prospect is Strome (obviously you won't do it) we say no. Even with Strome I'd feel uncomfortable making that trade.
People here are acting crazy. It takes draft picks to move up - not your core players.
I doubt any of the top 5 teams want to move down, as there is a drop off in talent level after that.
Probably looking at 6th OV + 36th OV + 2nd 2013 to move up to 4. Habs/Leafs/CBJ probably wont budge. I think NYI is the only possible one.
That's an overpayment. Look at previous drafts.
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New York Islanders acquired previously as the result of a trade on June 20, 2008, that sent the 5th-overall pick to Toronto in exchange for either the 60th-overall pick and a third-round pick in 2009 or the 68th-overall pick and a second-round pick in 2009 and this pick.
to move up 4 spots it costed less. Usually it's even less. I'd say an early 2nd gets it done from 6th to 4th unless NYI has someone in mind.
I can easily see Anaheim trading down....alot of the defensemen are similarly rated, i am hoping for one of Forsberg/Galchenyuk to fall to 6 because it opens up alot of possibilities.
Yakupov
Grig
Galy
Murray
Dumba
Forsberg
( not in that order) as the top 6, As a ducks fan I would be happy with any of those 6 players, we do not need to trade up, if a center is left we take him, if Murray or Dumba is left, we take him, or if Forsberg is at 6, we gladly take him, if anything this draft we will move down for a player that can play now and glady try to fill depth at pick 36
No it isn't. You trade a guy with 30 goals every year since hitting the NHL + 6th overall to NYI to move up 2 spots and get a prospect with one goal to his credit. Unless that prospect is Strome (obviously you won't do it) we say no. Even with Strome I'd feel uncomfortable making that trade.
If your going to put him down at least get it right. Nino has 2 goals and an assist in 64 nhl games played. He had 3goals and 1 assist in 6 AHL games while on a conditioning stint after coming back from a partial groin tear suffered in Training Camp. After he had the injury he sat for a month or so in the begining of the seaon with no allowed activity. He took a while to come back from the injury and never got into the grove of the season. He was never given important minutes and was stuck with the 4th line guys. He was never given the chance to succed this season. However, He is still 19 years old still considered a top 10 prospect in this league.
The only reason I include him in this trade is I like what Ryan brings to the table (Experience, Leadership, Grit). I think he would be a perfect winger for Tavares. The Islanders need to bring in Veteran players that with Talent to help the extremly young core here on the Island. The Islanders have talent aplenty coming up the pipeline. I would like to trade some of it to fill out the teams weak points.
As far as this draft, I think the top forwards will be gone by the time Toronto is done at 5. The Islanders really need defencive help this draft. If Murray is gone, then I would trade back in order to pick up Rheinehart or Trouba.
Since you say its not fair value, what do you feel needs to be adjusted?
If your going to put him down at least get it right. Nino has 2 goals and an assist in 64 nhl games played. He had 3goals and 1 assist in 6 AHL games while on a conditioning stint after coming back from a partial groin tear suffered in Training Camp. After he had the injury he sat for a month or so in the begining of the seaon with no allowed activity. He took a while to come back from the injury and never got into the grove of the season. He was never given important minutes and was stuck with the 4th line guys. He was never given the chance to succed this season. However, He is still 19 years old still considered a top 10 prospect in this league.
The only reason I include him in this trade is I like what Ryan brings to the table (Experience, Leadership, Grit). I think he would be a perfect winger for Tavares. The Islanders need to bring in Veteran players that with Talent to help the extremly young core here on the Island. The Islanders have talent aplenty coming up the pipeline. I would like to trade some of it to fill out the teams weak points.
As far as this draft, I think the top forwards will be gone by the time Toronto is done at 5. The Islanders really need defencive help this draft. If Murray is gone, then I would trade back in order to pick up Rheinehart or Trouba.
Since you say its not fair value, what do you feel needs to be adjusted?
If you want a winger, then you need to target someone other than Ryan. We will not be moving Ryan or another top prospect to move up two spots. We're okay at 6 if that's how steep the prices are.
If you want a winger, then you need to target someone other than Ryan. We will not be moving Ryan or another top prospect to move up two spots. We're okay at 6 if that's how steep the prices are.
It wasnt Ryan to move up to places. It was
To NYI
Bobby Ryan
Ana 1st 2012
To ANA
Nino
NYI 1st
Another pick or prospect to even it out.
To ANA
Nino
NYI 1st
Another pick or prospect to even it out.
Sorry, I forgot that you included Nino. We don't need him at all, even if we lost Ryan, Nino's just another face in the sea of Anaheim wingers, so the only reason we'd have to do this is to move up two spots. As I said, if those are the prices, thanks for the offer, but no thanks to the trade. If you manage to clone Ryan Strome, however, we'll give you the pick outright for him.
Sorry, I forgot that you included Nino. We don't need him at all, even if we lost Ryan, Nino's just another face in the sea of Anaheim wingers, so the only reason we'd have to do this is to move up two spots. As I said, if those are the prices, thanks for the offer, but no thanks to the trade. If you manage to clone Ryan Strome, however, we'll give you the pick outright for him.
Just as a back and forth, If the islanders were trade Strome they would need to stay at 4 and hope to pick up one of the two Russian Centers.
The Islanders are starting to finally have the center depth they desire, However they are still missing a top line winger to play with Tavares and Moulson.
Just as a back and forth, If the islanders were trade Strome they would need to stay at 4 and hope to pick up one of the two Russian Centers.
The Islanders are starting to finally have the center depth they desire, However they are still missing a top line winger to play with Tavares and Moulson.
Just a shot in the dark, but would Strome be available if we offered the 6th, one of William Karlsson or Chris Wagner, and one of those Russian centers was still on the board at 4?
Just a shot in the dark, but would Strome be available if we offered the 6th, one of William Karlsson or Chris Wagner, and one of those Russian centers was still on the board at 4?
Those guys sound like exact matches of our prospects Brock Nelson or Johan Sundstrom.
Right now the Islanders are very high on Strome. They see him as a dynamic 2nd line center or a future RW for Tavares. In the offseason Strome trains with Tavares and Moulson up in Toronto.
Those guys sound like exact matches of our prospects Brock Nelson or Johan Sundstrom.
Right now the Islanders are very high on Strome. They see him as a dynamic 2nd line center or a future RW for Tavares. In the offseason Strome trains with Tavares and Moulson up in Toronto.
Well, it was worth a shot. It doesn't sound like we'd make good trading partners.
You could have said the same about Rundblad when he was traded.
As I said, we're probably not good trading partners. Good luck at the draft.
Thats very true but look at the positon he was drafted(17th) and then what draft pick we was traded for (16th). I dont think we are bad trading partners at all, just continueing the friendly discussion.
To ANA
Nino
NYI 1st
Another pick or prospect to even it out.
Why would we trade Bobby Ryan for Nino (who will be lucky to be Bobby Ryan) just to move up 2 spots in the draft when we could just trade picks to move up. Keep dreaming if you think Bobby gets traded to move up in the draft. Nomatter what else we get back to "even it out".
