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04-10-2012, 07:38 PM
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Go first overall... They have to many young fowards in their top 6 to take Yakupov. For all the fans saying CBJ got screwed they really didn't. Edmonton literally has no room for Yakupov in their lineup. I can easily see them take Murray first overall and Yaks goes to CBJ.
The Oilers will make room for Yakupov by trading Hemsky for a defensemen.

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Forsberg?

Or if Button has his way Teravainen.
90% sure...not its gonna be a dman without a doubt no way. what did you just harp on others doing?

only bright side to this is the oilers burning so many elc years they may not be able to hold all those number ones under the cap for very long. feel so bad for columbus right now.

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I meant to say Murray will
Go first overall... They have to many young fowards in their top 6 to take Yakupov. For all the fans saying CBJ got screwed they really didn't. Edmonton literally has no room for Yakupov in their lineup. I can easily see them take Murray first overall and Yaks goes to CBJ.
I agree with you, but In that interview with Tambellini right after the lottery, he basically said they're taking Yakupov

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This lottery result makes the draft somewhat more interesting. Columbus would have gone with Yakupov. Now, if the Oilers do, who do the Jackets take? And what happens to the order below that?

As for the Ducks, we stay at 6th, which is just fine. We still are going to get a good player who I do not expect to see on the ice for two - three years. It is going to be choice of Forsberg or the second or third best defenseman in the draft.

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I meant to say Murray will
Go first overall... They have to many young fowards in their top 6 to take Yakupov. For all the fans saying CBJ got screwed they really didn't. Edmonton literally has no room for Yakupov in their lineup. I can easily see them take Murray first overall and Yaks goes to CBJ.
You don't pass on Yakupov. If the Edmonton GM even suggests that, the owners should fire him on the spot and replace him with a shaved monkey. The monkey would do a better job.

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I hope we land Dumba with our pick.

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If we're going dman again if rather trade the pick for a center.

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duckjet just post a fine print legal segment after all your posts to exclude any responsibility from your posts. they are to dangerous and must be taken as gospel.
I am this close.

and no. it's 3 for 3.


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90% sure...not its gonna be a dman without a doubt no way. what did you just harp on others doing?

only bright side to this is the oilers burning so many elc years they may not be able to hold all those number ones under the cap for very long. feel so bad for columbus right now.


just throwin names out there so I can see what the 10% is

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A line of Hall/RNH/Yakupov doesn't sound physically frightening, but for sure it'll be one that surprises just about every team.

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Are you kidding me!!!! Edmonton AGAIN!!!

This is ********. I feel so bad for the jackets.

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I agree with you, but In that interview with Tambellini right after the lottery, he basically said they're taking Yakupov
I don't know what you saw but he never agreed to anything. He said all options are on the table INCLUDING trading the first overall pick for a roster player. They have so much youth in the wing department they gotta get a d...

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The Oilers will make room for Yakupov by trading Hemsky for a defensemen.
I don't see any team willing to give up a top 4 defenseman for Hemsky given Hemsky's performance and contract. $5 million a year for two years based upon 10 goals and 26 assists is not a desirable contract in my mind.

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I don't know what you saw but he never agreed to anything. He said all options are on the table INCLUDING trading the first overall pick for a roster player. They have so much youth in the wing department they gotta get a d...
No, they don't. They can trade for one. They can try to sign one in the off-season. They can trade the 1st overall to another team to drop a spot or two. Simply passing on Yakupov and taking a defenseman is terrible asset management.

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I don't know what you saw but he never agreed to anything. He said all options are on the table INCLUDING trading the first overall pick for a roster player. They have so much youth in the wing department they gotta get a d...
He said that, but before he said something along the lines of, we're excited to have this youngman on our team. He later rephrased it as the Oilers are open to all scenarios.

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You don't pass on Yakupov. If the Edmonton GM even suggests that, the owners should fire him on the spot and replace him with a shaved monkey. The monkey would do a better job.
Why??? They've chosen first overall three years in a row. Eberle Hall RNH... Still losing...They have also chosen fowards almost every year. They are AGAIN 2nd to last in the league with your BPA concept. He will prolly be fired for NOT drafting to team needs rather then BPA this season due to all the b.s going on with the youth movement he's shooting for.

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Would the EDM-pick be tradeable for us? Would have to give away Fowler/Sbisa + our pick I guess...
No freaking way. No way!

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oilers could get a literal #1 line going. so not right.

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You keep trying to make this about Forsberg, but it isn't. This is about DuckJet.
And where did the discussion about Duckjet arise? When I questioned Forsberg's nhl readiness.

Now I KNOW you're dancing around what I'm saying just to come out of this appearing to be superior. It isn't cute, and I really did try to be civil about this. You're intent on making me out to be some Craig Button wanna-be without a brain.

All I'm trying to say is that my opinion is as useful as yours.
MY opinion comes from inference, experience, history, foresight, and granted, limited viewing of the player in question. That doesn't mean my opinion and speculation is correct, nor do I think it is, nor do I expect anyone to think it.

YOUR opinion apparently comes from a photo caption. If someone hired by HFboards said that Forsberg is NHL ready, well Jesus Christ Bobby! IT MUST BE TRUE! So let's just assume that everything anyone says to the contrary is completely false, and at the same time let's assume that every person who disagrees presents their opinions and claims as undeniable fact and gospel, whose voracity is equaled only by the law of gravity in their eyes.

Because otherwise I don't see how, unless you live in Sweden and have seen Forsberg more than I have, you can claim that everything I'm saying is at least an incredibly bold statement and at most completely unfiltered, incorrect garbage. You know as much as I do. Maybe a little less...maybe a little more.

And again I ask(...please stop dancing around this question...we can end this right now):

In what way am I being overly bold or ridiculous in suggesting that a prospect from Europe won't be ready for the NHL next year?

Keep in mind this has to do with Duckjet...not Forsberg. In what way is suggesting a possibility that is true of almost any prospect and fueling it with some kind of opinion based on previous experience with other prospects so out of line and so over the top that you must complain about it every time I bring it up?

If this wasn't about Forsberg, you wouldn't jump on me every time I mentioned him.

Either way...it's my opinion that he won't be ready. It's yours that he will. Time will tell who's right and wrong, but basically what you're asking me to do is to stop sharing my opinions. Opinions, perhaps somewhat bold, but compared to the mindless rubbish that's posted on this site? Well...no. I'm not gonna stop sharing my opinion and speculation. That's what I'm here for. Nothing I say is absolute fact unless it's a published fact that I've shared.


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A line of Hall/RNH/Yakupov doesn't sound physically frightening, but for sure it'll be one that surprises just about every team.
It's like Ryan-Getzlaf-Perry if you subtracted like 150 collective pounds.

Gonna be one of the most fragile top lines in hockey.

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Why??? They've chosen first overall three years in a row. Eberle Hall RNH... Still losing...They have also chosen fowards almost every year. They are AGAIN 2nd to last in the league with your BPA concept. He will prolly be fired for NOT drafting to team needs rather then BPA this season due to all the b.s going on with the youth movement he's shooting for.
I just explained why.

The team's failure is not because they drafted the BPA. It's because their GM has failed to acquire effective players through other means. Who are their best players right now? RNH, Hall, Eberle. The players failing them? The veterans.

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And where did the discussion about Duckjet arise? When I questioned Forsberg's nhl readiness.

Now I know you're dancing around what I'm saying just to come out of this appearing to be superior.

All I'm trying to say is that my opinion is as useful as yours.
MY opinion comes from inference, experience, history, foresight, and granted, limited viewing of the player in question.

YOUR opinion apparently comes from a photo caption. If someone hired by HFboards said that Forsberg is NHL ready, well Jesus Christ Bobby! IT MUST BE TRUE! So let's just assume that everything anyone says to the contrary is completely false, and at the same time let's assume that every person who disagrees presents there opinions and claims as undeniable fact and gospel, whose voracity is equaled only by the law of gravity in their eyes.

Because otherwise I don't see how, unless you live in Sweden and have seen Forsberg more than I have, you can claim that everything I'm saying is at least an incredibly bold statement and at most completely unfiltered, incorrect garbage. You know as much as I do. Maybe a little less...maybe a little more.

And again I ask(...please...we can end this right now):

In what way am I being overly bold or ridiculous in suggesting that a prospect from Europe won't be ready for the NHL next year?

Keep in mind this has to do with Duckjet...not Forsberg. In what way is suggesting a possibility that is true of almost any prospect and fueling it with some kind of opinion based on previous experience with other prospects so out of line and so over the top that you must complain about it every time I bring it up?

If this wasn't about Forsberg, you wouldn't jump on me every time I mentioned him.
How many Leksands games have you watched this year?

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He said that, but before he said something along the lines of, we're excited to have this youngman on our team. He later rephrased it as the Oilers are open to all scenarios.
What do you think is a "young man" this is the entry draft ALL are young men. This concept is ludicrous.

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