Hemsky's contract is up when RNH needs a raise
Horcoff's contract is up when Yakupov needs a raise.
That's a 11 million dollars coming off the books, and at a time when the cap will either be rising or remain at the level it currently is.
So lets say that those four forwards are eating up 28 M in cap space...
Why would it be such an issue? By the time 2015-2016 comes and those players are earning that much, there's a very real possibility that two of Klefbom/Marincin/Musil are already established top-4 contributors on ELC's. One of them could possibly be a legit top-pairing talent (likely Klefbom at this stage).
So we could essentially have 30 million dollars to spend on a remaining 14-15 players on the roster. We could overpay for UFA defense/goaltending/bottom-6 forwards and not be hampered by the cap whatsoever.
Really people, why is the cap situation such an issue? Spending 28 million on four players (three of them forwards) never hurt Washington....
Depends if the Oilers are interested in winning games yet or not.
If they want to win, they need some serious help on the backend and in net... if they are looking to continue in stock piling top draft picks just stay the course.
I think the answer is Yes without even a second thought. How many skilled forwards do you need? You need plenty of 2 way guys and grinders AND good Dmen, not all offense players.
I think they'd benefit from packaging a winger and a defensive prospect for a young top piaring dman and a forward prospect. See what it would take to get Boedker and OEL for instance. If there's value there I think that trade helps them, but waiting another year for their young defensemen to get closer if they can't find a good value through trade wouldn't be the end of the world.
Trade Nugent-Hopkins and a 2nd Rounder for some stud D-Man.
Goalies are apparently a crapshoot so no point in trading for one, just draft 5.
There isn't a single player in the league i would trade the Nuge for. He still has cheap years, and he's going to be a top 3-5 center in the league for the next decade +.
Crosby has concussion problems, or i would for him.
The Oilers are better off using other assets. They already have top notch defense and goaltending prospects. They need to use guys like Paajarvi, Lander, Teubert, Plante, R.Jones, Omark, 32nd pick, 1st-13, 2x2nd-13, and any other picks at their disposal. I would not be trading any key roster players (Hemsky) or young roster talent (Gagner). The oilers need more NHL ready players, not less. And they certainly do not need more defense prospects, they need players. And could somebody tell me why Dubnyk isn't a good option going forward as a starter? Because he is.
Depends if the Oilers are interested in winning games yet or not.
If they want to win, they need some serious help on the backend and in net... if they are looking to continue in stock piling top draft picks just stay the course.
Whats wrong with having a top young starter? The only reason Dubnyk's stats are middle of the road compared to a guy like Schneider is because of the team they play for. Look no further than Brian Elliot to see what an effective NHL defense and coaching system can do for a goalie.
This is a comparison of goalies within 2 years of Dubnyks age i did a few weeks ago.
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Lets look at the top young goalies their ages, save percentage, position on the depth chart, quality of team, and perhaps other key info.
Elliot-------- 27, .940, Backup - On a top team, possibly easier starts
Schnieder -- 26, .934, Backup - On a top team, possibly easier starts
Rask ------- 25, .929, Backup - On a top team, possibly easier starts
Halak ------ 26, .927, Starter - On a top team, backups numbers are unreal
Quick ------ 26, .926, Starter - Good team, top defence
Howard ---- 27, .920, Starter - Very good team
Fleury ----- 27, .918, Starter - On a top team
Harding ---- 27, .918, Backup - Poor team, possibly easier starts
Price ------- 24, .916, Starter - Poor team
Enroth ----- 23, .916, Backup - Average team, possibly easier starts Dubnyk ---- 25, .914, Co-Starter - Poor team, poor defence
Varlamov --- 23, .913, Starter - Average team, had very high value last offseason
Bishop ------ 25, .912, Backup - Only 9 games, returned a 2nd, sv% last year .899
Bernier ------ 23, .911, Backup - See Quick, Only 15 games, sv% last year .913
Pavelec ----- 24, .909, Starter - Average team
Crawford ---- 27, .902, Starter - Very good team
Reimer ------ 24, .900, Co-Starter - Poor team
Neuvirth ---- 24, .900, Backup - Average team
Bobrovsky -- 23, .899, Backup - Very good team
Mason ------ 23, .895, Starter - Worst team, former Calder winner
All goalies played at least 20 games. We can see the best 6 goaltenders in this comp. are all on top teams with excellent defence, or in Quicks case behind a top defence. If you consider age, team, and responsibility it sure looks like Dubnyk is a very solid young goalie.
I do think that the respective goalies have something to do with their teams success, but i have no doubt that the teams they play for inflate the numbers they post, just as poor teams like the Oilers and Canadiens depreciate the numbers their goalies post. Dubnyk has with Price easily the best numbers for a young goalie not on a good team. Look at what Hitchcock does for Goalies, Mason was near the top of this list with Hitchcock as his coach, now it's Elliot and Halak (although St.Louis's D-core has alot to do with that too).
Harmonic + 4th overall is probably asking for a lot, but that's the only move I'd want to see if we were trading for a younger guy with a lottery team.
If the pick is going to anyone else I want Horcoff's contract off of our books and a legit #1 d-man who younger than 30.
Bogosian + Pegger's 1st rounder + ?? would be interesting, but I don't think the Jets are going in that direction.
I could see why the Oilers would ask for that, but Hamonic is an absolute stud, no chance would the Isles do that.
