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05-13-2012, 09:07 AM
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yea please close this thread. Lets win the cup with Dubi and AA, home grown rangers..........if they can win this yr I say no to Parise btw. Keep the cap space

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05-13-2012, 03:18 PM
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Our cap space is fine but imagine this team with a scorer like Parise. And I know he's not getting 9 but it just shows you how much space we have giving him that crazy amount. He'll definitely get 8, guarantee it. Teams like STL, DET, MIN all have a ton of cap space and look at what STL and DET have to offer Parise in terms of who he'd be playing with. Artie is too inconsistent for my taste and stalberg put up better numbers than he did playing the same amount of minutes. And I'm not paying Dubinsky 4.2M a year to put up the year he just put up. I'd rather trade them and have even more money to re-sng guys like Stepan, Hagelin, McDonagh, Del Zotto, Kreider when his contract runs up.

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05-13-2012, 03:19 PM
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For what though? We'd have enough cap space to keep our younger players and we'd have another scorer to take pressure off of Gaborik and give Richards another weapon

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05-13-2012, 03:21 PM
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that third line looks miserable. no thanks.
How is it miserable? Chris Kelly is a very good player. Guy put up 40 points playing on the 3rd line and had a +33. Stalberg put up more points than Anisimov and it gives us another scorer with some speed and he has similar build to Anisimov. He's also cheaper and we wouldn't have to worry about overpaying him when his contract runs out. Chris Kelly is also a terrific face-off taker. I don't see where this is terrible

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05-13-2012, 03:53 PM
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Stalberg is nice to consider w/ his speed, but he is not a risk as to scoring. AA is more likely to bust out. So yeah, but not that deal.

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05-13-2012, 05:44 PM
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I say if we cant get Parise, we go after Jiri Hudler

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05-14-2012, 07:17 PM
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I say if we cant get Parise, we go after Jiri Hudler
not sure if serious ....
after all, that's like Coke and Pepsi!

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05-21-2012, 12:07 PM
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What about this:

to Preds: Gaborik
to Rangers: Weber (rental); rights to Radulov; Nashville 2012 1st

Discuss....

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05-21-2012, 12:16 PM
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What about this:

to Preds: Gaborik
to Rangers: Weber (rental); rights to Radulov; Nashville 2012 1st

Discuss....

So the Rangers get a luxury (Weber), a player that won't play a minute under Tortorella (Radulov) and an extra 1st. Yet the Rangers lose their top goal scorer. Nashville gets a goal scorer and loses their best defenseman, plus a 1st.

This strengthens the Rangers defense, significantly weakens their offense and vice versa to Nashville.

This is nothing more than a "look at me I am on the internet and made a trade proposal" post.

Edit: Nashville isn't going to do this trade. They would just be handing Parise or <insert free agent here> to the Rangers.


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05-21-2012, 04:17 PM
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What about this:

to Preds: Gaborik
to Rangers: Weber (rental); rights to Radulov; Nashville 2012 1st

Discuss....
I see where you are going with this, but I don't think it makes much sense from Nashville's standpoint.

In a perfect world with the right coach, Radulov could be a 30-40 goal scorer, but I don't think it's this world with this coach. Radulov might wind up being more like Zherdev.

There would need to be another shoe dropping from Rangers standpoint (i.e. one of our existing D being moved for a proven scorer)

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05-21-2012, 04:19 PM
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What about this:

to Preds: Gaborik
to Rangers: Weber (rental); rights to Radulov; Nashville 2012 1st

Discuss....
Care to elaborate with some math?

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05-21-2012, 07:11 PM
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So the Rangers get a luxury (Weber), a player that won't play a minute under Tortorella (Radulov) and an extra 1st. Yet the Rangers lose their top goal scorer. Nashville gets a goal scorer and loses their best defenseman, plus a 1st.

This strengthens the Rangers defense, significantly weakens their offense and vice versa to Nashville.

This is nothing more than a "look at me I am on the internet and made a trade proposal" post.

Edit: Nashville isn't going to do this trade. They would just be handing Parise or <insert free agent here> to the Rangers.
Quick look at the bigger picture is all the time I have for now...
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This strengthens the Rangers defense
It does so for the one year (unless we flip Weber to Edmonton if they offer a premium for him). And it provides balance.

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This ... significantly weakens their offense
Obviously you are losing 40G, but you are adding otherwise.

Not unimportant, our pitiful power play will finally have a stud QB from the right side, one who can be odd defender hanging back if we go with another canon from the left (maybe Nash if acquired) + a regular line, should we turn up the pressure.

I disagree about Radulov being a total waste.
Either he'll have a heart to heart with Torts, show up and put out, or we'll trade him as well.

The pick is not unimportant.
Like 25 ish + last pick (if we win) could jump us up several slots.
This could be a good development move.

There is risk, but not unreasonable.
One great player for one season for another great player for that season.
Not exactly, I grant you, but these more or less cancel out.

Radulov is an x factor. He may be useless, but even still, someone will take a chance and offer a 2nd, maybe more. And if he's not useless, then... what a steal!

And the pick is particularly useful.

Preds not interested in Rangers situation.
This is not like you don't trade w/Pens and make the Pens stronger.

Nashville looks at its own bottom line.
They have great D, good chance Suter will re-sign unless there is a crazy offer.
Small chance, we think, they keep Weber.
They can keep him + lose him, or flip him for a return.

Gaby is a great return but too much for 1 yr rental. So Preds add, a guy one paper they will move anyway. The only ? is that 1st.

But 40 g is 40 g, so I think they do it...

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05-21-2012, 07:13 PM
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I see where you are going with this, but I don't think it makes much sense from Nashville's standpoint.

In a perfect world with the right coach, Radulov could be a 30-40 goal scorer, but I don't think it's this world with this coach. Radulov might wind up being more like Zherdev.

There would need to be another shoe dropping from Rangers standpoint (i.e. one of our existing D being moved for a proven scorer)
Pls check out my post at 212.

Thanks for the reply.
Think it makes sense for Preds unless they get blow away offer for Weber.

Gaborik might be highest offer though, you have to think....

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05-21-2012, 07:14 PM
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Care to elaborate with some math?
Thanks!
Just for something in overview as to good rationale for both, pls check out my post at 212.

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05-21-2012, 09:52 PM
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Gagner is young and very talented. He's the top 6 forward we need.
Hes got talent but a top 6 forward at this point is a stretch. Hes got some skill and offensive creativity we could use, but i wouldint want to give up much, maybe a D prospect not Valetanko who i like.

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05-21-2012, 09:54 PM
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What about this:

to Preds: Gaborik
to Rangers: Weber (rental); rights to Radulov; Nashville 2012 1st

Discuss....
Come on Radulov with Torts please, and Nash does not go for this, its the other way around Weber for Gaborik, +, + hes a top 5 D man in the league.

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05-22-2012, 07:21 PM
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Come on Radulov with Torts please, and Nash does not go for this, its the other way around Weber for Gaborik, +, + hes a top 5 D man in the league.
It's the other way around if Weber is not a 1 yr rental.
Also we get Radulov, he is an asset. If an issue with Torts, we hope to flip him + take the freebie pick..

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05-22-2012, 07:44 PM
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What about this:

to Preds: Gaborik
to Rangers: Weber (rental); rights to Radulov; Nashville 2012 1st

Discuss....
Nashville doesn't have their 2012 1st. And still that's about the third largest reason that trade is ridiculous.

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05-22-2012, 09:57 PM
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What about this:

to Preds: Gaborik
to Rangers: Weber (rental); rights to Radulov; Nashville 2012 1st

Discuss....
Nashville would probably never talk to Ranger management again.

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Ugh.

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Hall for Staal, 2012 1st Rounder and JT Miller. Would you do it?

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05-22-2012, 10:05 PM
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Edmonton would never do that trade, no chance in hell.

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Edmonton would never do that trade, no chance in hell.
I'd agree. Hall is going to be a superstar player. However, his injuries are fairly alarming, he plays so recklessly.

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So because his injuries are alarming, Edmonton would trade him for a 1st round pick, Staal and unproven Miller?

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Hall for Staal, 2012 1st Rounder and JT Miller. Would you do it?

You're on the right track with one of our top d-man for top forward.
So many fans try to hoodwink the other team with these trades.

If the Rangers want a top forward, one of the top 4 d-man have to go. No way they're getting one via trade, without that happening.

The two teams I would talk to if I'm the Rangers are, Oilers & Ducks.
They match up well with them.

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