Edmonton winning this lottery just ruined this draft for to many teams. Columbus doesn't get that elite winger to replace Nash. Montreal might not get Grigorenko or Gally depending on CLB pick. Doesn't really affect the Islanders because they can use Forsberg, Murray, and Dumba and it screws us because we might not get 1 of the forwards. Draft was suppose to go like this:
Murray isnt a bad consolation prize for us. I have more reservations about Grigorenko, thats for sure. If we get him I hope he proves me wrong (quickly).
The Kadri selection meltdown was bad enough, but it wont compare to the meltdown this board experiences if we pick Dumba over Galy/Forsberg.
Lol, I guess not, in hind sight seems like we didnt do to bad with Kadri. I'd be okay with anyone from the top 6 (Yak, Gal, Grig, Fors, Dumba, Murray) guess not everyone feels the same.
Tom Wilson is really showing up for Plymouth. Second on the team in playoff scoring with six goals and four assists in 11 games. He only had nine goals in 49 games this season.
Galchenyuk is the player we need from this draft IMO. I would HATE to see him go to the Habs. Edmonton trading down with Columbus makes too much sense. Tambellini says he'll consider every option with his pick, they desperately need a top young D prospect, Columbus needs a winger to replace Nash who will surely be traded.
1. Columbus- Yakupov
2. Edmonton- Murray
3. Montreal- Grigorenko/Galchenyuk(sighhh) depending on if Roy is the coach
4. Islanders- Forberg/Dumba
5. Toronto- Grigorenko/Dumba
Although things generally don't go as you would expect them to go on draft day and what would make sense generally doesn't happen. In that case;
I dunno. Forsberg just doesn't get me as excited as Galchenyuk or even Grigs. I've never really been impressed with him every time he's played. Even his highlight package isn't that impressive.
Tom Wilson is really showing up for Plymouth. Second on the team in playoff scoring with six goals and four assists in 11 games. He only had nine goals in 49 games this season.
Murray isnt a bad consolation prize for us. I have more reservations about Grigorenko, thats for sure. If we get him I hope he proves me wrong (quickly).
If we get him I hope he proves everybody wrong also just to piss the Habs off for missing out on him. Still want Gally though over everybody though. Him and Kadri might make magic together.
K I have been reading posts and looking at mock drafts, and was wondering a couple of things here. Firstly Galchenyuk gets rave reviews about his offensive talents and size. They say in write ups that the kid is uber-talented and the Leafs are lucky to get him at #5. There is others that say we will get Forsberg who has been playing with the Swedish mens league and a very strong player who will only get better cause of his growth and also deadly with the disc. The problem with Forsberg is that he is a winger and we need a centre badly between Lupal and Kessel. Can Forsberg play centre? Is Galchenyuk that good, and can he play at the NHL level (realistically) and is he gonna be injury prone type? I do want to hear some of you guys who have seen these guys play and get a honest opinion of who fits better.
Murray is apparently going to the WC for Canada according to the guys on the hotstove tonight. Kind of crazy.
So im getting this right.... Ryan Murray will be going to the Adult Worlds?
If true hed probably be going to be an extra defenceman, who wont play unless there is an issue getting bodies, or there is an injury. Much like Mario Scalzo last year, Eberle 2 years ago. I believe Turris was an example of an extra player who travelled with the team, but didnt play.
That being said, I cant imagine Canada would have ever done that for a draft eligable player before
Tom Wilson is really showing up for Plymouth. Second on the team in playoff scoring with six goals and four assists in 11 games. He only had nine goals in 49 games this season.
And, he also has 31 PIMS.
I think Burke definitely will have to trade up from 35 if he wants him.
It'll be like the Biggs pick last year. This guy just screams Burke type player.
But do we need another Biggs?
Biggs is looking solid so far. Ross may not be as big, but hes an agitator with some skill. We have Jerry D'Amigo who is a beast, and has some great pro experience.
Biggs is looking solid so far. Ross may not be as big, but hes an agitator with some skill. We have Jerry D'Amigo who is a beast, and has some great pro experience.
Id rather go after skilled players like Zharkov, or Athanasiou or a goalie with our 2nd. I'll admit I don't know much about Wilson though. I trust our scouts though.
Biggs is looking solid so far. Ross may not be as big, but hes an agitator with some skill. We have Jerry D'Amigo who is a beast, and has some great pro experience.
Just imagine what Burke is thinking after this season. This guy is apparently pretty intimidating.
He also screams "just like Biggs, so we don't need him".
If we pass on superior offensive talent like Frk, Or DiGiuseppe, or guy like Thrower or McCabe for Wilson, you'll hear me scream from all the way down here in the Rose City.
I'd personally drive Phaneuf and Franson to the airport and buy them a 1 way ticket to Edmonton.
I think Burke would too.
Unfortunately there is something called a salary cap and trading 6.5 million + pending RFA usually involved something coming back our way. Based on Edmonton's cap situation, that would probably mean us having to take back Cam Barker.
There is a reason why trading up in a draft involves giving up picks, prospects and players on ELCs....
So im getting this right.... Ryan Murray will be going to the Adult Worlds?
If true hed probably be going to be an extra defenceman, who wont play unless there is an issue getting bodies, or there is an injury. Much like Mario Scalzo last year, Eberle 2 years ago. I believe Turris was an example of an extra player who travelled with the team, but didnt play.
That being said, I cant imagine Canada would have ever done that for a draft eligable player before
Yup, I remember when Kessel went for the USA his draft year not sure if anyone else has since.
Yup, I remember when Kessel went for the USA his draft year not sure if anyone else has since.
I think Nino did for Switzerland too, and he was still 17. But obviously to make it for Canada and the US is a different step.
Wonder what Luke Schenn thinks about this? Was asked at the end of the year interview if he heard anything about the worlds, and his reply was a quick 'No'. Cant imagine youd be too thrilled to realize you got passed over for a kid who isnt old enough to play in the league
I think Nino did for Switzerland too, and he was still 17. But obviously to make it for Canada and the US is a different step.
Wonder what Luke Schenn thinks about this? Was asked at the end of the year interview if he heard anything about the worlds, and his reply was a quick 'No'. Cant imagine youd be too thrilled to realize you got passed over for a kid who isnt old enough to play in the league
Yup. I'm pretty surprised. I'd imagine some high quality defencemen will be available to Canada when the first round of the playoffs winds down. Guess they wanted Murray on the team bad.
1) We are not getting Murray guys. There is a 0% chance that he gets passed the islanders, but even that would be a sizable drop off for him.
2) Many here think that yakupov, grigorenko, galchenyuk will go 1, 2, 3. IMO, there is no way that c-bus goes for grigorenko. If they retained their 1st overall, they would have picked yakupov, a russian. But grigorenko is a completely different story and fits the bill of the "c-bus failed russian prospect" much more closely than yakupov. C-bus will draft Murray if they keep their second.
3) I hope MTL takes Grigorenko. He just seems like a natural addition to their team. If there is a top 5 pick that drops though (a la couturier last year), I think it will be him though. He's not having an exceptional playoff run. Also, just for laughs, how many of you saw his interview with nhl.com? "Something about me? I'm a romantic guy." Haha wtf...
4) As a leafs fan, I want galchenyuk. Right about now, it's become this sort of stubborn desire. Although from what I've seen form Forsberg and others, they are great prospects too. But like many of you on here, theres something about galchenyuk that makes me wish we take him. I do not think that he will go top 3. I think many of us are actually overvaluing Galchenyuk just because we want him. Also, Habs fans also "want" him just because they know we want him (typical).
If the top 3 are as previously mentioned, I can personally see the Islanders taking a chance on Dumba at number 4, making him the surprise pick of the draft. That would leave Galchenyuk to us.
Galchenyuk is the player we need from this draft IMO. I would HATE to see him go to the Habs. Edmonton trading down with Columbus makes too much sense. Tambellini says he'll consider every option with his pick, they desperately need a top young D prospect, Columbus needs a winger to replace Nash who will surely be traded.
1. Columbus- Yakupov
2. Edmonton- Murray
3. Montreal- Grigorenko/Galchenyuk(sighhh) depending on if Roy is the coach
4. Islanders- Forberg/Dumba
5. Toronto- Grigorenko/Dumba
Although things generally don't go as you would expect them to go on draft day and what would make sense generally doesn't happen. In that case;
I dunno. Forsberg just doesn't get me as excited as Galchenyuk or even Grigs. I've never really been impressed with him every time he's played. Even his highlight package isn't that impressive.
No man. Why would Columbus pass up on Murray? The BPA at number 2 is murray. Galchenyuk (who I want) is a huge risk even at 5th. Although we might be able to live with that, Columbus won't at 2nd overall.
