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Bo Horvat vs Curtis Lazar

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11-17-2013, 04:47 PM
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Bo Horvat vs Curtis Lazar

Is there a big difference between them? Pretty similar ppg totals both have similar roles on their teams, both have a good chance of making team Canada. Who would you rather have and what do you think is the biggest difference between them?

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11-17-2013, 05:07 PM
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I prefer Lazar personally. They're very similar, I like Lazar's swift skating, high energy, up tempo approach a little more. Horvat is more cerebral and slows things down a bit. Less wasted movement. Some prefer guys like Horvat. I prefer guys like Lazar.

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11-17-2013, 05:09 PM
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I think this is a solid thread/question. They have their similarities, but also their differences. The gap isn't that far as I see both players rounding out as very similar NHLers.

Horvat > Offensive upside
Lazar > Speed/skating, physicality

Both are solid leaders, good hockey-IQ, defensive-minded forwards.

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11-17-2013, 05:14 PM
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I'd take Horvat, but it's close.

Could see Lazar scoring more goals in the NHL with that great shot of his, while Horvat puts up bigger point totals. Both will be great defensive players and leaders for their respective teams.

My prediction: Both were great picks and both teams will be very happy they selected their player at their position

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11-17-2013, 11:30 PM
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Horvat is more of a playmaker, Lazar is more of a goalscorer.

Apples and oranges really.

I do think Lazar will be the better pro.

Just a hunch along with some bias.

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11-18-2013, 12:40 AM
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Lazar has a wrist shot like eberle and can skate like the wind. Guys like that usually go top 3. He didn't and doesn't ever really get 2nd assists.

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11-18-2013, 01:18 AM
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I'd take Horvat, but it's close.

Could see Lazar scoring more goals in the NHL with that great shot of his, while Horvat puts up bigger point totals. Both will be great defensive players and leaders for their respective teams.

My prediction: Both were great picks and both teams will be very happy they selected their player at their position
Pretty much sums it up for me, both great players.

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11-18-2013, 09:36 AM
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Horvat is better but I still think he was picked too high

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11-18-2013, 10:13 AM
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I see Horvat as being more offensively developed , at first I was surprised that Ottawa took him ahead of Shinkaruk but now I'm glad we took Lazar, hopefully he can develop into a selke caliber 2 way forward. If both make Team Canada I'd expect them to be on the penalty kill.

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11-18-2013, 10:19 AM
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imo, Horvat is the much better player now and will be at the NHL level. Lazar will be a third line player.

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11-18-2013, 10:37 AM
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I have no idea who will be better. I really like both players though.

They would be awesome on a line together actually. Horvat's playmaking and Lazar's great shot would make a great hard working two-way line.

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11-18-2013, 10:39 AM
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Had both guys in my top 12. Like them both a lot.

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imo, Horvat is the much better player now and will be at the NHL level. Lazar will be a third line player.
Errrrrrrrrrrrrrrr, ok?

Bo Horvat
GP 19 G 9 A 19 PTS 28

Curtis Lazar
GP 19 G 15 A 10 PTS 25


You can't beat Lazar on intangibles, so what exactly are you basing this off of?

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Errrrrrrrrrrrrrrr, ok?

Bo Horvat
GP 19 G 9 A 19 PTS 28

Curtis Lazar
GP 19 G 15 A 10 PTS 25


You can't beat Lazar on intangibles, so what exactly are you basing this off of?
LOL! what are you basing that on.

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imo, Horvat is the much better player now and will be at the NHL level. Lazar will be a third line player.
What makes you think Lazar will never be more than a 3rd liner? I'm curious.

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Errrrrrrrrrrrrrrr, ok?

Bo Horvat
GP 19 G 9 A 19 PTS 28

Curtis Lazar
GP 19 G 15 A 10 PTS 25


You can't beat Lazar on intangibles, so what exactly are you basing this off of?
He's a leaf fan, enough said.

I like Horvat more he has more hockey sense from what I have seen. I don't think that Lazar will ever be a first line player while I think Horvat very well could be.

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11-18-2013, 01:44 PM
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You want to win a cup in the future, you go with Horvat. If you want to win a president's trophy go with Lazar. Horvat has shown he can perform in big games, provide elite defense/physicality and Lazar has shown that he can put up points and be a very skilled player.

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Horvat is more of a playmaker, Lazar is more of a goalscorer.

Apples and oranges really.

I do think Lazar will be the better pro.

Just a hunch along with some bias.
I disagree. Horvat was taken #9 for a reason. Lazar has had a good start but does not have the same acumen as Bo does in all areas of his game.

I think Lazar is a good pick at #17. I still take Shinkaruk over him but he wasn't avail at 24 so we will never know.

Horvat >>> Lazar

Shirkaruk >/= Lazar.

Ottawa got a good pick . Man what a deep draft that was.

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Errrrrrrrrrrrrrrr, ok?




You can't beat Lazar on intangibles, so what exactly are you basing this off of?
Horvat >>>>> Lazar on intangibles.

You are being universally panned for trying to slide this in. Dont ever become a lawyer. You wont make it.

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You want to win a cup in the future, you go with Horvat. If you want to win a president's trophy go with Lazar. Horvat has shown he can perform in big games, provide elite defense/physicality and Lazar has shown that he can put up points and be a very skilled player.
Why wasn't horvat picked first if he can win you the cup? Thats a ridiculous statement to make.

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Canuck fan here saying I see top 6 upside for both players. Lazar plays more of a kinetic game based on relentless skating and nose for the net. Bo (who I've seen more) is more of a possession player, shields the puck with his thick frame and plays a fairly cerebral game. Intangibles and defense are high with both, don't know what would make one stick out more than another. Anyone saying '>>>' in either direction is either blinded by homerism or hasn't seen much of one player.

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There are some neutral Canucks fans, and there are obviously some biased homers.

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You want to win a cup in the future, you go with Horvat. If you want to win a president's trophy go with Lazar. Horvat has shown he can perform in big games, provide elite defense/physicality and Lazar has shown that he can put up points and be a very skilled player.
So has Horvat. In fact, Horvat's numbers are slightly better than Lazar's even though Horvat has had to play much tougher minutes than Lazar has. He's also defensively better.

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11-18-2013, 02:11 PM
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LOL! what are you basing that on.
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Horvat >>>>> Lazar on intangibles.

You are being universally panned for trying to slide this in. Dont ever become a lawyer. You wont make it.
The only dissent has come from the poster I questioned and you. In your mind, this equates to being "universally panned". Are you that narcissistic? You are the universe?

Bo Horvat definitely has better hockey sense, and may, in fact, project to be a better NHLer. But to claim that he is doing "much better right now" is completely unfounded and stupid.

Intangibles refer to character, attitude and leadership. Lazar is known to have these in spades, and that is one of the main reasons he was a 1st rounder. So maybe Horvat could tie Lazar on intangibles, but he can't beat him.

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11-18-2013, 02:12 PM
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Lazar will be more likely Selke winner of these two. Better skater and he has right attitude.. he is a winner.

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