Can you explain to me why Stamkos was considered such an unreal prospect when he was drafted,but Yakupov is not?
Why would Bob Mackenzie speak to some teams this year may not wanting to draw number 1 in the draft this year. I'm paraphrasing here, but that is what he said last night. I also have never heard Yakupov compared or have the same impact as the aforementioned players. Not sure why you are arguing. No need to take things personal, i'm sure Yakupov will be a good NHLer one day.
Why would Bob Mackenzie speak to some teams this year may not wanting to draw number 1 in the draft this year. I'm paraphrasing here, but that is what he said last night. I also have never heard Yakupov compared or have the same impact as the aforementioned players. Not sure why you are arguing. No need to take things personal, i'm sure Yakupov will be a good NHLer one day.
People are calling Yakupov, Ovechkin light. He's saying some teams don't want the #1 because they want defensemen, not because Yakupov isn't good enough.
Why would Bob Mackenzie speak to some teams this year may not wanting to draw number 1 in the draft this year. I'm paraphrasing here, but that is what he said last night. I also have never heard Yakupov compared or have the same impact as the aforementioned players. Not sure why you are arguing. No need to take things personal, i'm sure Yakupov will be a good NHLer one day.
1. Yakupov was compared to OV more than once. That's a very big compliment.
2. Bob Mac also said yesterday that Yakupov is the only guy that clearly stands out from the rest this year.
People are calling Yakupov, Ovechkin light. He's saying some teams don't want the #1 because they want defensemen, not because Yakupov isn't good enough.
That's not what I heard last night. Is Yakupov projected to be as good as Ovechkin, or is his style like Ovechkin? I'm not going to argue the merits of a prospect, but I have yet to see a socuting report echoing Yakupov in the same vein as Stamkos and Tavares, and now apparently Ovechkin. It wasnt that long ago some thought Ovechkin was the best NHLer in the game, can we expect the same with Yakupov? Let me guess, Grigernko has a playing style (mostly size) similar to Malkin, therefore he will be like Malkin in the NHL? Regardless, I wouldn't trade any assets to move up. People here get way too excited about prospects.
That's not what I heard last night. Is Yakupov projected to be as good as Ovechkin, or is his style like Ovechkin? I'm not going to argue the merits of a prospect, but I have yet to see a socuting report echoing Yakupov in the same vein as Stamkos and Tavares. Let me guess, Grigernko has a playing style (mostly size) similar to Malkin, therefore he will be like Malkin in the NHL? Regardless, I wouldn't trade any assets to move up. People here get way too excited about prospects.
A comparison is a comparison. No two players are going to be exactly a like. He wasn't compared to Stamkos and Tavares because he's Russian. He's compared to Ovechkin because he plays physical, he has the high end offensive talent and he already plays a North American style game. Yes, he is that good, yes he will be that good. McKenzie meant that teams want some defensemen (NYI, EDM, maybe even CBS).
That's not what I heard last night. Is Yakupov projected to be as good as Ovechkin, or is his style like Ovechkin? I'm not going to argue the merits of a prospect, but I have yet to see a socuting report echoing Yakupov in the same vein as Stamkos and Tavares, and now apparently Ovechkin. It wasnt that long ago some thought Ovechkin was the best NHLer in the game, can we expect the same with Yakupov? Let me guess, Grigernko has a playing style (mostly size) similar to Malkin, therefore he will be like Malkin in the NHL? Regardless, I wouldn't trade any assets to move up. People here get way too excited about prospects.
What if it was OV/Malkin this year as #1,but as prospects again?
The year OV and Malkin were picked #1 and #2,do you know who was picked #4,5,6? Andrew Ladd,Blake Wheeler and Al Montoya.
Did you notice how massive the skill gap can be?
All I'm saying is that #1 is always #1 overall for a reason. And it's not like scouts just recently changed their mind to put Yak #1. He was considered the best player available all year long.
What if it was OV/Malkin this year as #1,but as prospects again?
The year OV and Malkin were picked #1 and #2,do you know who was picked #4,5,6? Andrew Ladd,Blake Wheeler and Al Montoya.
Did you notice how massive the skill gap can be?
All I'm saying is that #1 is always #1 overall for a reason. And it's not like scouts just recently changed their mind to put Yak #1. He was considered the best player available all year long.
A comparison is a comparison. No two players are going to be exactly a like. He wasn't compared to Stamkos and Tavares because he's Russian. He's compared to Ovechkin because he plays physical, he has the high end offensive talent and he already plays a North American style game. Yes, he is that good, yes he will be that good. McKenzie meant that teams want some defensemen (NYI, EDM, maybe even CBS).
When Stamkos and Tavares came into the draft, they were hearalded as two of the better first round picks to come out in a while. Both were expected to be big time players in the NHL; Yakupov has not had anywhere close to those accolades himself. To each their own, still wouldnt trade up for him, and no scouting report I have seen said anything about Yakupov having as much of an impact as Stamkos or Tavares.
would offer schenn + 5th overall and nothing more..if thats not gonna do it than too bad..i believe schenn will be a great fit on the oilers but im not the oilers gm hah
When Stamkos and Tavares came into the draft, they were hearalded as two of the better first round picks to come out in a while. Both were expected to be big time players in the NHL; Yakupov has not had anywhere close to those accolades himself. To each their own, still wouldnt trade up for him, and no scouting report I have seen said anything about Yakupov having as much of an impact as Stamkos or Tavares.
Not Tavares or Stamkos but Ovechkin. Not sure what you're missing here. He doesn't need to be compared to Tavares and Stamkos but OVECHKIN.
What if it was OV/Malkin this year as #1,but as prospects again?
The year OV and Malkin were picked #1 and #2,do you know who was picked #4,5,6? Andrew Ladd,Blake Wheeler and Al Montoya.
Did you notice how massive the skill gap can be?
All I'm saying is that #1 is always #1 overall for a reason. And it's not like scouts just recently changed their mind to put Yak #1. He was considered the best player available all year long.
And i have yet to see a scouting report sugggest Yakupov will have the same impact as Tavares or Stamkos. Just because you're being picked in the number one overall slot, doesn't make you a great player. Yakupov has not had the same hype and excitement and projections as the other prospects I mentioned.
And i have yet to see a scouting report sugggest Yakupov will have the same impact as Tavares or Stamkos. Just because you're being picked in the number one overall slot, doesn't make you a great player. Yakupov has not had the same hype and excitement and projections as the other prospects I mentioned.
Yes he has. He's being compared to Ovechkin. Every time TSN talks about the #1 pick they show him. He's that good. You don't need to be compared to Tavares and Stamkos to be considered a great prospect. Yakupov is that good. He has been #1 for the 2012 draft for two years and he's been tearing up the OHL ever since. He also tore up the WJC, just like Tavares did..
Not Tavares or Stamkos but Ovechkin. Not sure what you're missing here. He doesn't need to be compared to Tavares and Stamkos but OVECHKIN.
You're not getting it. Yakupov has not had the same hype or expectations as players before him. I have seen his playing style being compared to Ovechkin, but no one has said he will be as good and has the same ceiling. By most scouting reports I have seen, Yakupov doesnt have the ceilling as Tavares and Stamkos, and in no way did anyone ever say he would be as good as Ovechkin. Similar playing styles yes, doesnt mean he will be just as good. Would be more than happy to see where that is written and admit i'm wrong.
And i have yet to see a scouting report sugggest Yakupov will have the same impact as Tavares or Stamkos. Just because you're being picked in the number one overall slot, doesn't make you a great player. Yakupov has not had the same hype and excitement and projections as the other prospects I mentioned.
Do you only know Tavares and Stamkos? You keep repeating these two names.
As the other poster noted,he's being compared to Ovechkin,Alexander. Alex the Great. The Great 8. Ever heard of that sucker?
You're not getting it. Yakupov has not had the same hype or expectations as players before him. I have seen his playing style being compared to Ovechkin, but no one has said he will be as good and has the same ceiling. By most scouting reports I have seen, Yakupov doesnt have the ceilling as Tavares and Stamkos, and in no way did anyone ever say he would be as good as Ovechkin. Similar playing styles yes, doesnt mean he will be just as good. Would be more than happy to see where that is written and admit i'm wrong.
On Sportscentre right now, Bob McKenzie says: "Yes, it's disappointing for Columbus, they are missing out on the franchise player in this draft."
That means just like Tavares. Just like Stamkos. He is a Franchise player. Just because you haven't heard as much hype for Yakupov, YET (The draft isn't until JUNE). He's going to be good and he'll be really good. Stop getting so far ahead of yourself.
Just like hearing and listening
Or reading and comprehension
But some people won't get it.
I wouldn't trade more than a maybe a 2nd and 3rd plus our 1st to move up to get Yakupov.
If we were giving up our 1st + gardiner + _____ I'd rather go after Nash, at least he's proven.
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Yes he has. He's being compared to Ovechkin. Every time TSN talks about the #1 pick they show him. He's that good. You don't need to be compared to Tavares and Stamkos to be considered a great prospect. Yakupov is that good. He has been #1 for the 2012 draft for two years and he's been tearing up the OHL ever since. He also tore up the WJC, just like Tavares did..
You're not getting it. Yakupov has not had the same hype or expectations as players before him. I have seen his playing style being compared to Ovechkin, but no one has said he will be as good and has the same ceiling. By most scouting reports I have seen, Yakupov doesnt have the ceilling as Tavares and Stamkos, and in no way did anyone ever say he would be as good as Ovechkin. Similar playing styles yes, doesnt mean he will be just as good. Would be more than happy to see where that is written and admit i'm wrong.
How did he beat Stamkos's records without having as good a scoring touch? Impossibru.
Personally i would shoot for the #2 pick with Columbus. At this point Columbus can settle for a top defencemen as their pick, so why not move down to #5 and get one of Murray or Dumba?
Perhaps a Kadri + 5th FOR 2nd? Take Grigorenko away from Montreal and move on....obviously my preference would be to grab another one of those top 5 picks without giving up our 5th overall.
Burke needs to pry Luongo or Schnieder from Vancouver!
I've heard reference to pav Bure for Yakupov, with perhaps a little less finish. Keep in mind Bure played when there were a tonne of 40-50 goal scorers.
Might have been in today's Calgary Herald, but a puck moving d-man is what will separate the 1st. overall from the Oilers.
Oh puck moving d-man eliminates Schenn from the discussion, and Liles probably is out as well. ;-)
Gardiner might do it without including the Leafs 5th. overall, but Leafs would have to add.
Now if you are the Oilers would you do rights to Schultz and 6th. overall?
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using his big frame to create space and his skating ability to find open lanes to drive the net. He stands 6-3 and is a natural goal scorer with plenty of confidence.
He's a scout's dream in the way he prepares himself and plays an unselfish game, making smart decisions with the puck. With his bloodlines, he certainly understands what it will take to make it at the next level.
I might have an opinion if I had the foggiest knowledge of the difference in value between the 5th and 1st pick in this draft. Being that this varies radically from year to year, usually with wildly varying reports on the draft before it takes place, it's really pointless to speculate. Better to speculate on trades for NHL players.
