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04-11-2012, 09:06 AM
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How would you change the draft lottery?

How would you change the lottery?

In my opinion, the current NHL lottery system needs to be re-vamped. It feels a little out-of-date. I think the new CBA might make a few altercations this offseason as well. I think there needs to be more movement amongst teams. Having only 1 team rise is boring. However, I like that a team can only move up 4 spots if they win because it's not really fair to the truly bad teams.

I would make three simple change:

-have the lottery determine picks 1-2-3
-if you win the lottery you can only move up 5 spots
-change the percentages around a bit

What are your thoughts?

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Ban Edmonton.

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How about no lottery and just use the season ranking to determine draft position?

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How about no lottery and just use the season ranking to determine draft position?
Teams like Edmonton are already tanking on purpose. If they do what you suggest then it's going to create a whole lot of tanking teams, and that's just bad for entertainment/business.

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Ban Edmonton.
This. They shouldn't be allowed to draft top 5 for the next ten years.

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bottom teams play a tournament for 1st overall

would never happen but would be pretty fun to watch

best out of 3 or maybe even just a march madness single elimination

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I like the current process. The only thing i would like to see is the lottery happen... instead of talking about nonsense, show the comissioner placing the exact amount of lotto balls into a machine. Each ball has a picture of the team on it. Once the balls are all placed into the machine the commissioner hits a button and one pops out. That team is the lottery winner. Now i know its probably some sort of mathematical simulator, but i just want some sort of assurance that the league isnt playing God with the best players entering the game.

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GM's have a free for all within a Brian Burke rented barn. Last one standing gets Yakupov.

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I like the current process. The only thing i would like to see is the lottery happen... instead of talking about nonsense, show the comissioner placing the exact amount of lotto balls into a machine. Each ball has a picture of the team on it. Once the balls are all placed into the machine the commissioner hits a button and one pops out. That team is the lottery winner. Now i know its probably some sort of mathematical simulator, but i just want some sort of assurance that the league isnt playing God with the best players entering the game.
yeah that would be pretty fun to watch, not sure why it has to be so secretive if that's all they are doing.

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Teams like Edmonton are already tanking on purpose. If they do what you suggest then it's going to create a whole lot of tanking teams, and that's just bad for entertainment/business.
But in the majority of cases where you end up is where you will draft anyway. Anomalies like last night are rare.

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But in the majority of cases where you end up is where you will draft anyway. Anomalies like last night are rare.
Not exactly. Last team in the league has a 50% chance of drafting 1st overall. So it's pretty much a coin toss.

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I think the system is fine, people are just mad EDM defied the odds. Even if EDM had a 1/20 chance of 1st overall and won, people would complain about the system still.

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But in the majority of cases where you end up is where you will draft anyway. Anomalies like last night are rare.
Not if the percentages are adjusted in order to facilitate more movement. That way, picks 1-2-3 could turn out in a variety of ways, while still keeping the percentages respectable enough to make sure bad teams still have a good chance at getting the top picks.

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They could introduce a system that further discourages tanking by limiting how high of a pick you can get in consecutive years. For example if you got the 1st pick last year then you can't get any higher than 3rd the next.

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They could introduce a system that further discourages tanking by limiting how high of a pick you can get in consecutive years. For example if you got the 1st pick last year then you can't get any higher than 3rd the next.

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I'd make the Leafs win every year.

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im really not upset the Oilers have won 3 years in a row. Honestly i can see Nuge, Hall and Yak being injury prone their entire careers. If i had to choose one of their big 3 i take Eberle

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im really not upset the Oilers have won 3 years in a row. Honestly i can see Nuge, Hall and Yak being injury prone their entire careers. If i had to choose one of their big 3 i take Eberle
I'm not upset either from a Leaf fan standpoint. That said though, I strongly believe 3 #1 picks to the same team 3 years in a row is very bad for the League particularly when a struggling franchise was right there and could use it to revitalize the fanbase. Edmonton is the least deserving franchise of the bottom 5 this year, and that's why it's upsetting. Deliberately losing shouldn't be tolerated or rewarded.

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Screw tanking.

The 14 non-playoff teams get one ball each. Whatever number a team pulls, that is where they pick. The only tanking possible is if you went to tank your way out of a playoff spot. Non-playoff teams get the same chance at #1.

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Screw tanking.

The 14 non-playoff teams get one ball each. Whatever number a team pulls, that is where they pick. The only tanking possible is if you went to tank your way out of a playoff spot. Non-playoff teams get the same chance at #1.
That would be epic. I don't think the owners/GMs would go for it though, unfortunately.

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Screw tanking.

The 14 non-playoff teams get one ball each. Whatever number a team pulls, that is where they pick. The only tanking possible is if you went to tank your way out of a playoff spot. Non-playoff teams get the same chance at #1.
i agree with this and i also think they should show the live drawing of the balls or whatever they use

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Teams like Edmonton are already tanking on purpose. If they do what you suggest then it's going to create a whole lot of tanking teams, and that's just bad for entertainment/business.

Definatly an interesting take. So if the Oilers "tanked on purpose", what exactly would you call it that the leafs did then?? They finished a whopping 6 points ahead of the Oilers.

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Any team that misses the playoffs can move up or move down to any position 1-16

Lowest ranked team has the most balls in the lottery. Second lowest and second most and so on...

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The biggest change I'd love to see is locking out the team that picks 1st overall from picking higher than 5th overall for next 3 years after that pick. Maybe also something like a team can only pick in the top 5 for 3 consecutive seasons. Basically anti-tanking rules.

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Definatly an interesting take. So if the Oilers "tanked on purpose", what exactly would you call it that the leafs did then?? They finished a whopping 6 points ahead of the Oilers.
Tambellini is trying to build through the draft via top 5 picks. He's basically said as much.

Burke tried to make the playoffs this year and the team flopped.

Big difference.

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