A system along that lines would be good; it'll at least mean there's something to play for even if you're out of the playoffs.
I really hate that losing is incentivized and making moves that could make your team better but not good enough cause you to get punished with a worse pick.
Either that or a system where the #1 goes to the city where the HHoF is located, 2nd through 26 have a lottery for non Northeast teams, NE has a lottery for the remaining first rounders
The lottery is fine. I'd make a change to the drafting system itself.
A team should be allowed to pick top 3 not more than 2 seasons in a row. For the third season, they should be moved down to number 5.
Not a dramatic change, but this will prevent teams like Edmonton sucking dog **** on purpose, since you wouldn't have the incentive for the 1st overall.
I couldn't care less about how interesting it is. I think they need to improve it to allow teams who have a one-off year to benefit more than a team who perennially sucks despite limited transactions.
if a team perenially sucks, despite getting first pick every year, who cares? let them suck and let them keep picking first. if the other teams are better than them, despite them picking first every year, that's fine.
the draft is supposed to help create parity. if a team is so bad that they still can't use this to their advantage, too bad for them. good for everyone else.
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The Oilers didn't even try to improve beyond their 3rd/4th lines this season. That's not an answer a team that finished in the dumps two times prior to this season should undertake.
the oilers knew they weren't going anywhere this season. they made roster moves, or didn't make roster moves, accordingly. there's nothing wrong with that.
i don't think for a second that they tried to lose. maybe that's naive on my part, but i'd like to think the professionals involved have a little more integrity than that. i'd like to the the league has more integrity than that.
the entire point of the sport is based on the premise that everyone hopes to win and tries to win each game. if that's out the window, there's absolutely no point in playing the games, or following this stuff.
I don't mind the lottery as is, but if I got to change it, I would make it so that there's a lottery for every pick, 1-14.
But it wouldn't be like the 14th pick can move up to 1. I would lotto every pick for 5 teams, equal chance of winning the spot for each team, and you can only drop 3 spots. For example, with this year's standings and using a random generator for each selection (1-5)
1 = CBJ/EDM/MTL/NYI/TOR -- EDM wins (even rigging my fake lottery )
2 = CBJ/MTL/NYI/TOR/ANA -- NYI wins
3 = CBJ/MTL/TOR/ANA/MIN -- TOR wins
4 = CBJ by default
5 = MTL/ANA/MIN/CAR/WPG = MIN wins
6 = MTL by default
7 = ANA/CAR/WPG/TAM/COL -- ANA wins
8 = CAR/WPG/TAM/COL/BUF -- BUF wins
9 = CAR/WPG/TAM/COL/DAL -- TAM wins
10 = CAR/WPG/COL/DAL/CGY -- DAL wins
11 = CAR by default
12 = WPG by default
13 = COL/CGY -- CGY wins
14 = COL by default
This draft order is dramatically different than the current/real order.
1. EDM | EDM
2. CBJ | NYI
3. MTL | TOR
4. NYI | CBJ
5. TOR | MIN
6. ANA | MTL
7. MIN | ANA
8. CAR | BUF
9. WPG | TAM
10. TAM | DAL
11. COL | CAR
12. BUF | WPG
13. DAL | CGY
14. CGY | COL
They could introduce a system that further discourages tanking by limiting how high of a pick you can get in consecutive years. For example if you got the 1st pick last year then you can't get any higher than 3rd the next.
I like that, have thought about something similar before. Basically if you pick top 3 one year, you can't have another top 5 pick the following year.
The other thing would be, to have bottom 10 teams have equal chances to win lottery.
Same team should NOT be allowed the first overall pick in back to back years, first of all. Make a rule stating that the team which won the lottery in the previous year, can only finish at best with 2nd overall. Makes it more fair for the rest of the league, otherwise teams like edmonton/pittsburgh abuse the lottery and manipulate it, ultimately defeating its purpose.
Secondly the percent should go by POINTS not RANKING. its complete bullshi*, a team could have 53 points, another can have 54 points...which is 1OTL difference...and the last place team gets 25 percent higher chances of winning it. Makes no sense, arranging it by points seems more logical. Depending on how many points you finish with, you get a certain percent of the balls in the lottery.
AND teams should not be allowed to 'Tank' This year montreal was BLATANTLY tanking...they started Budaj out of the blue, because "they hadn't seen him play much this year' THEN it was because carey price had a "concussion" which conveniently at the end of the year was reported being false. The league should investigate or look into teams who are clearly tanking, and if its determined they are tanking. They should have to forfeit their pick.
This way the games played how its supposed to, and teams play to win...The draft was made to help the worst teams get better...now days teams 'tank' taking advantage and this reverses the drafts effect.
The 14 non-playoff teams get one ball each. Whatever number a team pulls, that is where they pick. The only tanking possible is if you went to tank your way out of a playoff spot. Non-playoff teams get the same chance at #1.
I also agree with this...I mentioned this a few times before...get rid of the word tanking once and for all...have the lottery on TV which would be very entertaining...the team with the least amount of points have other avenues to get better, the draft is only one of them... weather your team came 9th in the conference or the least amount of points in the NHL, one ball each because they all have the same chance to win the cup,ZERO!
I have no problems with the current lottery. I think as long as no team has more than a 50% chance of getting the 1st overall it should keep teams in check.
i would change it to mimic the NBA's draft, you can move up to any slot, you can only fall 2 slots, and everyone that doesn't make the playoffs has a chance to win the lottery
Oilers fan here in peace. Interesting how this thread came about AFTER this draft was held and not before. Would give it more credence and not consider it sour grapes if that was the case. Like a card game, where the loser wants to change the rules when the game is finished, as opposed to before the game starts. Would have been interesting to see all the suggested changes to the system if the Leafs would have won the lottery. My guess is...none.
But, what the hell. Let's give all non-playoff teams the same shot
Last edited by Stoneman89: 04-14-2012 at 02:52 PM.
Give teams like Calgary fairly good odds at winning the lottery. Helps take away from the mindset of purposely becoming a disgrace, and gives a bit more incentive to the teams that actively try to better themselves and conduct themselves with a bit of grace and dignity.
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