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04-12-2012, 11:06 AM
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I don't think we'd hang up the phone... but the problems are:
1) I'd be more likely to consider it for Yakupov
2) Even if I agree the delta between Hall and Hamilton is balanced by the delta between Rask and Dubnyk,... why am I trading any of Marincin, Klefbom or Teubert (ok, maybe teubert) for a 2nd rounder? I wouldnt trade either of the first two for your 1st
I hear ya, but IMO Hamilton and Tuuka have more value than Hall and Dubnyk...not much more but more. Evening the deal out with a mid first round talent for a 2nd round pick.

Not sure either team would do it, just a thought.

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I hear ya, but IMO Hamilton and Tuuka have more value than Hall and Dubnyk...not much more but more. Evening the deal out with a mid first round talent for a 2nd round pick.

Not sure either team would do it, just a thought.
not even close.

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not even close.
Um no, its certainly close either way. Could make an argument for both.

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Um no, its certainly close either way. Could make an argument for both.
I would have to see Hamilton Play in the league 1st for sure. Even if he can play to the level expected, I still don't think I would make that deal.

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I would have to see Hamilton Play in the league 1st for sure. Even if he can play to the level expected, I still don't think I would make that deal.
Understood, I wouldnt trade Taylor Hall if I was in your position either.

But, Hamilton and Rask for Hall and Dubnyk is IMO very close to fair value. Could go either way.

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04-12-2012, 11:31 AM
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Long term

(6-7 million) - (6-7million) - (6-7million)
(4ish) (6-7 milion) - (6-7 million)

34 million minimum just top 6, + another 6 if you acquire a #1 D and 4-5 if you acquire #1 G. That is 45 million on 8 players..... Maybe I'm wrong, but IMO one will have to go.

they will be rfa's they wont make that much

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they will be rfa's they wont make that much
Ask Steven Stamkos and Sidney Crosby how much they made as RFAs. Or John Tavares.

Obviously Hall, RNH, and Eberle aren't as good as those Crosby, Stamkos, or Ovechkin, but it's not out of the realm of possibility.

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im more interested in the oilers 2012 first but

my proposal
to isles
taylor hall

to oilers
2012 first
2012 second
2013 first

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Ask Steven Stamkos and Sidney Crosby how much they made as RFAs. Or John Tavares.

Obviously Hall, RNH, and Eberle aren't as good as those Crosby, Stamkos, or Ovechkin, but it's not out of the realm of possibility.
JT makes 5.5

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im more interested in the oilers 2012 first but

my proposal
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2013 first
Nope as i see NYI pushing for a playoff spot next year.

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Nope as i see NYI pushing for a playoff spot next year.
i feel like that every year until november when they lose like 10 straight games, oh how i hate November

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Um no, its certainly close either way. Could make an argument for both.
Until Hamilton proves he can play in the NHL and Rask starts more than 20-30 games, I really don't think so.

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I hear ya, but IMO Hamilton and Tuuka have more value than Hall and Dubnyk...not much more but more. Evening the deal out with a mid first round talent for a 2nd round pick.

Not sure either team would do it, just a thought.
I would say that the difference between Hall and Hamilton is a bit greater than the difference between Rask and Dubnyk IMO.

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