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04-12-2012, 07:06 AM
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Eventually we'll have a year where the Injury Plague barely touches us... It just has to happen. We can't be bit with so much misfortune like this much can we?

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LOL!

Terrible news for Detroit, especially coupled with the absence of Eaves. The bottom six is awful, and it's 6 weeks too late to adress it.

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I don't see Helm back this series. From the looks of things he either got Modano'd or his wrist slit pretty bad (aint there an artery in the wrist?), or both.

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04-12-2012, 08:04 AM
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News this morning has Helm having surgery on his right forearm.

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04-12-2012, 08:37 AM
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I don't see Helm back this series. From the looks of things he either got Modano'd or his wrist slit pretty bad (aint there an artery in the wrist?), or both.
Either way, he won't be back this season, for several reasons. One is that if he just missed the round then he won't be back, because Detroit is going down to Nashville. However, even if we somehow manage to pull this series out that injury was severe enough to sideline Helm for a long time. The playoffs could last until August and he wouldn't be returning...

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04-12-2012, 09:42 AM
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Wow, we have the surgeon that worked on Helm's arm here on the board?!?!


The injury was severe enough to keep him sidelined for a long time? There have been no reports on how serious the injury was yet. The "surgery" COULD end up being 20 stitches and he'll be back tomorrow

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04-12-2012, 10:10 AM
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Per Nick Kypreos twitter:

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#SNPlayoffs news. #toughloss #Redwings Helm playoff run is over. Its believed tendon damage that required surgery went well.
https://twitter.com/#!/RealKyper

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Wow, we have the surgeon that worked on Helm's arm here on the board?!?!


The injury was severe enough to keep him sidelined for a long time? There have been no reports on how serious the injury was yet. The "surgery" COULD end up being 20 stitches and he'll be back tomorrow
Babcock specifically used the word "SURGERY". Surgery does not equal stitches. I don't have to be Sherlock Holmes, or Helm's surgeon, to figure this out. He's DONE for the playoffs, folks.

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04-12-2012, 10:21 AM
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crap, that probably mean Abby is moving up to 3rd line C.

I'd really like to see this down the middle for next game

Zetterberg
Datsyuk
Franzen
Sheahan

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04-12-2012, 10:22 AM
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HELM UPDATE: Darren had successful surgery to repair lacerated tendons in his right forearm. He is out for the remainder of the playoffs.

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04-12-2012, 10:24 AM
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Poor guy. Fought so hard to get back in time for the playoffs, only to be put out by a fluke injury in the first six minutes.

Can we get a win it for Helm thing going?

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04-12-2012, 10:29 AM
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Oh wait, I am Helm's surgeon

Now I'm hoping I am only 50% correct. I nailed the Helm injury... but am hoping against hope that the Wings can somehow survive this series. I just don't see it happening, particularly now that we're down to 3 effective lines.

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04-12-2012, 10:42 AM
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Shattering.

He was looking so good out there too, fully of energy, he was hitting, skating, man this is a bitter pill to swallow.

Means we lose a key player, but it also destroys our depth. Instead of having Dats/Hank/Helm/Abby down the middle it’s probably Dats/Hank/Abby/2:52.

Huge blow for many reasons.

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04-12-2012, 10:48 AM
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Shattering.

He was looking so good out there too, fully of energy, he was hitting, skating, man this is a bitter pill to swallow.

Means we lose a key player, but it also destroys our depth. Instead of having Dats/Hank/Helm/Abby down the middle it’s probably Dats/Hank/Abby/2:52.

Huge blow for many reasons.
Z played 25:48 last night. Kronwall led the way with 26:36...

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Z played 25:48 last night. Kronwall led the way with 26:36...
Did he really? I know we were a centre short, and not playing Cory, but man...

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Did he really? I know we were a centre short, and not playing Cory, but man...
9:13 of it was on the powerplay though so it's not as bad as it looks

as for Helm....ouch

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04-12-2012, 11:07 AM
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there goes any small chance at a cup the wings might have had.

you can't win a cup with 2 lines.

what a wasted season.

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This sucks, he looked much better than I expected first game back. Hopefully he recovers well.

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04-12-2012, 11:09 AM
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Please please please just put Sheahan in at center instead of Emmerton.

I don't care if we lose the series, I just want to see some tenacity and effort out there so just put Sheahan and Conner out there.

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04-12-2012, 11:17 AM
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Franzen should be 3rd line center.
There is no good reason to keep him and Datsyuk together.

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04-12-2012, 11:22 AM
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Sorry to hear Helm's injury was so bad. You could tell that something awful had happened right away - he dropped his glove and stick and dashed for the locker room. Then post-game when they said it was right to Vanderbilt for surgery - ouch. Y'all are right that he looked very strong especially for his first game back.

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What exactly is a tendon and is it not possible to play through with it with anesthetic and/or painkillers?

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What exactly is a tendon and is it not possible to play through with it with anesthetic and/or painkillers?
He cannot use his arm.

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He cannot use his arm.
How do you know he "cannot" use it, maybe it just prevents him from moving it like he normnally does, it might be functional somewhat... how do you know all this?

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How do you know he "cannot" use it, maybe it just prevents him from moving it like he normnally does, it might be functional somewhat... how do you know all this?
http://www.davidlnelson.md/Tendon_laceration.htm

Tendons are tissues that connect muscles to bone, allowing the force of the muscles to move the joints. A ligament is different, connecting a bone to a bone; its cells are different from the cells of a tendon, so there are other differences besides just what it connects to what. The muscles that move your fingers and thumb are located in your forearm, above your wrist. Long tendons extend from the muscles through the wrist and attach to the small bones of your fingers and thumb. The mucles and tendons that flex your fingers (make a fist) are called flexor muscles and flexor tendons. The ones that open your fist are called extensors. There are many important differences between flexor tendon injuries and extensor tendon injuries.

Remember what happened to Modano? Helm can't use his arm.

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