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04-08-2012, 05:33 PM
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Bruins have better team this year then they had last year

2010 - 2011

82GP 46W 25L 11OTL 103PT 246GF 195GA +51

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1 Zdeno Chara BOS D +33
8. Adam McQuaid BOS +30
9. Nathen Horton BOS +29
11 Milan Lucic BOS +28

Tim Thomas GAA 2.00

2011 - 2012
82GP 49W 29L 4OTL 102PT 269GF 202GA +67

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1 Patrice Bergeron BOS +36
2 Tyler Seguin BOS +34
3 Zdeno Chara BOS +33
4 Chris Kelly BOS +33
5 Brad Marchand BOS +31
8 Johnny Boychuk BOS +27

Tim Thomas 2.36

Tuukka Rask 2.05

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04-08-2012, 05:45 PM
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plus, all those intangibles, man

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That remains to be seen. Last year was the ultimate reward for being a fan.

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I like this team going into the playoffs--these are definitely guys you want to go to war with.

The one place I'm genuinely concerned is missing Horton. Guys with his package of size and game breaking ability are awfully hard to find. The Bruins will miss him.

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I think Timmy was better last year.

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I think Timmy was better last year.
I think defense was better in front of Timmy last year...although I'm not so sure once Corvo goes to the press box. ;-)

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04-08-2012, 06:43 PM
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I think this team is pretty good. I actually like the defensive depth-the roster hasn't changed tons on defense, but the depth is better.

Seguin has certainly stepped it up this year, but for the playoffs other players are going to have to score because other teams will be looking to shut down Seguin.

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I think this team is pretty good. I actually like the defensive depth-the roster hasn't changed tons on defense, but the depth is better.

Seguin has certainly stepped it up this year, but for the playoffs other players are going to have to score because other teams will be looking to shut down Seguin.
Lucic-Krejci-Peverley need to step it up. I'm excited for a healthy playoff Lucic and playoff Krejci.

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plus, all those intangibles, man
Maybe the intangible of them not being so hungry will work against them? I hope not. I feel, right or wrong, that the biggest difference is not having Horty. I hope that we have enough depth for that not to matter.

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04-08-2012, 06:59 PM
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Maybe the intangible of them not being so hungry will work against them? I hope not. I feel, right or wrong, that the biggest difference is not having Horty. I hope that we have enough depth for that not to matter.
This team is now loaded with Playoff experience, and Stanley Cup experience. Almost all these guys we're here last year, and I don't think they wanna go thru 25 games again. During this last week we had a chance to rest the major players for our Cup run. So important to be 100%
The depth this team added is just a bonus. As long as Rolston, Pouliot, and Kelly keep working well together.... we can go all the way again.
For the ones worried about Thomas... don't. He set records last year in the Playoffs, so we can't expect better. But what we can expect is better Defense with Zanon joining the core. He's like another Seidenberg...WHAT A GIFT!!
I really hope we don't need Thornton to start fights to get our toughness going. If our 6 D-Men bring it from Game 1... we'll go along way.
I'm not saying we're head and shoulders above the rest... but we're right there with them. Just honest efforts from everyone will bring us a long way.

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I think Thomas will be fine.Horton's absence and the play of our 3rd line is what concerns me in the playoffs. The 3rd line is playing well but Peverley-Kelly -Ryder were a great 3rd line last year.Peverley just doesn't seem to be the same player when he plays with Krejci on the 1st line.

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But what we can expect is better Defense with Zanon joining the core. He's like another Seidenberg...WHAT A GIFT!!
And he looks hungry. He seems to be thrilled to be going into the playoffs with Boston.

I sometimes think have a few hungry guys may spur the hunger. Also, this is generally a team that doesn't like being told they can't do something.

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im very excited to see Benny and Roslton, good feeling about them!!

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Maybe the intangible of them not being so hungry will work against them? I hope not. I feel, right or wrong, that the biggest difference is not having Horty. I hope that we have enough depth for that not to matter.
Oh you talked to them and they said that? Bummer. Hey next time you hang out with the whole team would you be able to get some autographs for me? That'd be swell

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Oh you talked to them and they said that? Bummer. Hey next time you hang out with the whole team would you be able to get some autographs for me? That'd be swell
How did you get to that out of what you quoted?

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If Horton were healthy I would say that they absolutely are.

Right now it depends on guys like Pouliot, Rolston and maybe even Caron--as well as Seguin's consistency in the playoff atmosphere.

They are faster this year, as well. Seguin over Recchi is big upgrade in this department. Pouliot over Ryder is a big speed upgrade as well.

Recchi's leadership was quite useful, but now there are 20 cup winners in the room rather than two--so that helps.

Zanon means each defenseman can and should cross the 15m per game mark. That didn't happen last year because of the limited mins for Kaberle.

Ryder was an x factor in at least one series. Someone of Pouliot, Rolston or Caron probably needs to have a few moments where they get the team over the hump the way Ryder did. This could be a career defining playoffs for a guy like Pouliot.

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I think Thomas will be fine.Horton's absence and the play of our 3rd line is what concerns me in the playoffs. The 3rd line is playing well but Peverley-Kelly -Ryder were a great 3rd line last year.Peverley just doesn't seem to be the same player when he plays with Krejci on the 1st line.
I'm still a little more worried about Thomas than Horton.

The team has been playing without Horton for some time now and they know he's not going to be there. Similar to Savard last year.

Also, the B's did win 4 out of 5 in the finals without Horton last year.

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As a non-Bruins fan, I see your offense as almost as strong as last year. Seguin is supremely talented and showed he can step up in the playoffs last year. Yes, Ryder and Recchi are big losses, but your other young guys like Lucic and Marchand have an extra year of experience behind them. Pouliot could be a big x-factor, either by exploding on offense or becoming a penalty liability.

I think your biggest problems may be on goal-prevention. Thomas doesn't look quite as strong as last year, and even Chara has looked tired at times, plus Boychuk may not be 100%. Sure, it's very possible they'll get their groove back, but Thomas and possibly Chara may have passed their tipping point. I guess we'll see, as Washington's offense will put your D to the test. Another potential problem is the league has become much more familiar with Boston's style of play and has adapted to counter your strengths. And of course, injuries have shaved off some of your depth, which was so important last year.

Honestly, I'll be following the Boston series as a Habs fan rooting against you, but for what it's worth, I'm glad Boston's still among the top contenders. It wouldn't be the playoffs without you guys! Make it entertaining!

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Another potential problem is the league has become much more familiar with Boston's style of play and has adapted to counter your strengths.
if by "the league" you mean the front office in Toronto and the Refs then you're right.

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The leash should be a little looser in the playoffs, which ought to help.

It should also help that while OV is a superstar and should be getting some BS favorite calls, he's also supposed to be a big hard-hitting guy himself, so that ought to be abated a little.

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if by "the league" you mean the front office in Toronto and the Refs then you're right.
Definitely. Whatever you and I might think of it, it's safe to say the playoffs won't be officiated the same or look the same as last year. Less upper body hits, more attempted hipchecks and (unfortunately) knee-on-knee sneak attacks. Hits aren't disappearing, they're just migrating south.

Of course, Philly and Pittsburgh's all-out nuclear war may make Boston's series look like a chess match.

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I don't see us as better this season than last.

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I don't see us as better this season than last.
Joe Corvo does that.

We have more 20+ scorers than last year, but it does drop away quicker than last year. So we're more dependant on those 20+ players to perform.

I'd rate us on par with last years team really. People say we're missing Ryder, but they're looking at THIS years Ryder. If an 18g 40 point player is the difference between a playoff loss and a stanley cup, id be surprised. He always stepped up in the playoffs, but who's to say we wont have others who do the same this time around - Seguin is much more lethal than last year, Pouliot and Rolston are playoff unknowns. We could be surprised!

Im confident right now, we'll see if the confidence remains after a few games.

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Joe Corvo does that.

We have more 20+ scorers than last year, but it does drop away quicker than last year. So we're more dependant on those 20+ players to perform.

I'd rate us on par with last years team really. People say we're missing Ryder, but they're looking at THIS years Ryder. If an 18g 40 point player is the difference between a playoff loss and a stanley cup, id be surprised. He always stepped up in the playoffs, but who's to say we wont have others who do the same this time around - Seguin is much more lethal than last year, Pouliot and Rolston are playoff unknowns. We could be surprised!

Im confident right now, we'll see if the confidence remains after a few games.
Actually, it has nothing to do with Joe Corvo. I don't think he'll be in our top-6. And that makes our defense STRONGER than it was last season with Kaberle.

Seguin has never gone into a post-season as THE GUY on offense. Our third line is worse than it was last season. And we're out a Nathan Horton, which puts our "top line" in a heap of trouble.

Tim Thomas hasn't looked as strong this year... Which I believe is mainly due to his lack of confidence in his defense. And Rask is still hurt, leaving Khudobin as the guy if Timmy falters.

The one thing that could turn the tide, is Milan Lucic. He's healthy this year and has the ability to turn games in the Bruins favor when he's in playoff beast mode. The problem? He's up against a bigger big-game player in Ovechkin and may not be enough.

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The leash should be a little looser in the playoffs, which ought to help.

It should also help that while OV is a superstar and should be getting some BS favorite calls, he's also supposed to be a big hard-hitting guy himself, so that ought to be abated a little.
Yeah, Ovi is a completely different kettle of fish, officiating-wise, than the likes of Crosby. He has a rep and now a three-game suspension to go with it. I expect he'll be closely watched.

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