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Because a minority, local possible star is something that they can market and sell tickets with after Selanne is gone, of course it banks on Etem being the real deal.....bottom line, Etem won't be traded any time soon
There's some truth to this.
If Etem was a milky-white farm kid from Moosefart, AL, he could be moved without any off-the-ice considerations.
Etem is a local kid with attractive race & background combo marketing-wise.
So trading Etem would probably be discussed outside of Murray's office as well.
Because a minority, local possible star is something that they can market and sell tickets with after Selanne is gone, of course it banks on Etem being the real deal.....bottom line, Etem won't be traded any time soon
I'm going to disagree. Do you live in the area? Do you know how poorly they market their best commodity? Teemu stuff has been sold out at the team store from the beginning of the year. They won't reorder anything. Want some DSP gear? Sorry they never had any of that and won't order during the season. This was told to me by someone in the team store where I was looking for Teemu gear towards the end of the year.
As much as everyone loves Teemu have you noticed how many empty seat there are at most games the last few years when the team has been bad? A winning team sells tickets in SoCal, nothing else. Etem is no goldmine. If the right deal came along he would be shipped out like any other player.
Some Anaheim fans would turn down 6th overall + 2nd round pick + Etem for Duchene? Seriously?
I couldn't care if the kid was born in the rafters of the ****ing Honda Center, if we got offered that deal we should make sure there are no takebacks. Solve any center issue we would have, and even potentially mean if Getzlaf idd walk [even if it's unlikely] we wouldn't be in a completely **** situation.
He would
but ownership would squash it
I can guarantee you this
No you can't, and they wouldn't. If they were smart they would listen to Murray when he says "Duchene will make this team better than Etem will." and let him do his job.
Because a minority, local possible star is something that they can market and sell tickets with after Selanne is gone, of course it banks on Etem being the real deal.....bottom line, Etem won't be traded any time soon
If Etem was a milky-white farm kid from Moosefart, AL, he could be moved without any off-the-ice considerations.
Etem is a local kid with attractive race & background combo marketing-wise.
So trading Etem would probably be discussed outside of Murray's office as well.
Yes let's keep the minority down a bit. It's along the racism lines here. But yes being in southern California we have a very diverse population with multiple ethnicities. Just like the Angels acquired Pujols and there Latino attendance has increased in ticket sales. This could be the same thing with introducing new fans to the sport of hockey.
This is very good for the NHL and will widen the popularity for the sport.
Yes let's keep the minority down a bit. It's along the racism lines here. But yes being in southern California we have a very diverse population with multiple ethnicities. Just like the Angels acquired Pujols and there Latino attendance has increased in ticket sales. This could be the same thing with introducing new fans to the sport of hockey.
This is very good for the NHL and will widen the popularity for the sport.
Or we could just stop sucking and go back to selling out like in 06-09
I'm going to disagree. Do you live in the area? Do you know how poorly they market their best commodity? Teemu stuff has been sold out at the team store from the beginning of the year. They won't reorder anything. Want some DSP gear? Sorry they never had any of that and won't order during the season. This was told to me by someone in the team store where I was looking for Teemu gear towards the end of the year.
As much as everyone loves Teemu have you noticed how many empty seat there are at most games the last few years when the team has been bad? A winning team sells tickets in SoCal, nothing else. Etem is no goldmine. If the right deal came along he would be shipped out like any other player.
So not restocking merchandise is poor marketing? Lol seems like a team store management issue then marketing.
Well having a major in marketing like myself, you have to understand demographic marketing. Every time you see a car commercial and they play a 70's hit or 80's hit they are marketing to their most buyers in that age group. This is called demographic marketing.
Another example Is the Dodgers, they simply sold more tickets and had a huge rise in Latino fans due to the signing of Manny Ramirez, yes he wasn't that great, but they still had a boost in sales.
Were experiencing the samething with the Angels and Pujols right now.
This isnt Canada where hockey sells. This is the exact opposite being in So Cal. And attracting new fans to the sport along side of winning and having something to market should be our mission.
If you take Teemu out and put a local star "hypothetically" Etem it will attract fans to the sport and drive up sales ALONG side of winning.
So to totally disregard Etems marketing potential is downright foolish and can be a very costly mistake.
So not restocking merchandise is poor marketing? Lol seems like a team store management issue then marketing.
Well having a major in marketing like myself, you have to understand demographic marketing. Every time you see a car commercial and they play a 70's hit or 80's hit they are marketing to their most buyers in that age group. This is called demographic marketing.
Another example Is the Dodgers, they simply sold more tickets and had a huge rise in Latino fans due to the signing of Manny Ramirez, yes he wasn't that great, but they still had a boost in sales.
Were experiencing the samething with the Angels and Pujols right now.
This isnt Canada where hockey sells. This is the exact opposite being in So Cal. And attracting new fans to the sport along side of winning and having something to market should be our mission.
If you take Teemu out and put a local star "hypothetically" Etem it will attract fans to the sport and drive up sales ALONG side of winning.
So to totally disregard Etems marketing potential is downright foolish and can be a very costly mistake.
You're giving too much importance to Etem being a local boy. Yes, it might make the team some cash, but winning will make significantly more cash. Look at the most beloved players in Anaheim history. Selanne, Niedermayer, Giguere, etc... they aren't even from this country. Look at what Gretzky did for hockey in Southern California. The fans just don't care that much about where a player is from. Any boost Etem gives as a local boy is a temporary one. People will get used to the idea, and he'll just be one other player on the team.
If Anaheim wants to sell more tickets, and sell more merchandise, they'll do it by icing a competitive team that is entertaining to watch. Duchene makes Anaheim a better team than Etem does. It doesn't get much easier than that.
You're giving too much importance to Etem being a local boy. Yes, it might make the team some cash, but winning will make significantly more cash. Look at the most beloved players in Anaheim history. Selanne, Niedermayer, Giguere, etc... they aren't even from this country. Look at what Gretzky did for hockey in Southern California. The fans just don't care that much about where a player is from. Any boost Etem gives as a local boy is a temporary one. People will get used to the idea, and he'll just be one other player on the team.
If Anaheim wants to sell more tickets, and sell more merchandise, they'll do it by icing a competitive team that is entertaining to watch. Duchene makes Anaheim a better team than Etem does. It doesn't get much easier than that.
I couldn't agree more. Winning sells. Give me a team with 21 little green men from Mars who win the Cup, and I will show you a season of sold out games, merchandise, hot dogs and beer (lots of beer ).
So not restocking merchandise is poor marketing? Lol seems like a team store management issue then marketing.
Well having a major in marketing like myself, you have to understand demographic marketing. Every time you see a car commercial and they play a 70's hit or 80's hit they are marketing to their most buyers in that age group. This is called demographic marketing.
Another example Is the Dodgers, they simply sold more tickets and had a huge rise in Latino fans due to the signing of Manny Ramirez, yes he wasn't that great, but they still had a boost in sales.
Were experiencing the samething with the Angels and Pujols right now.
This isnt Canada where hockey sells. This is the exact opposite being in So Cal. And attracting new fans to the sport along side of winning and having something to market should be our mission.
If you take Teemu out and put a local star "hypothetically" Etem it will attract fans to the sport and drive up sales ALONG side of winning.
So to totally disregard Etems marketing potential is downright foolish and can be a very costly mistake.
I like how you're talking about this like Etem will be the first minority player in this city. Remember when hockey exploded after Alec Martinez, Wayne Simmonds, and Devante Smith-Pelly came here? No, you don't, because it isn't as simplistic as putting someone of a certain ethnicity on the team to make that happen.
Most people in this town have no idea who Teemu Selanne is.
I wouldn't and that's similar value to a 6th (Fowler) + 2nd rounder(DSP/Gibson) + Etem
No, it isn't. If that was how it worked then Duchene would be worth slightly more than our first, but it's a little more complicated than where a player was drafted. Gibson is the only person mentioned that is near the same value. Everyone else has added significantly more value since the draft.
No, it isn't. If that was how it worked then Duchene would be worth slightly more than our first, but it's a little more complicated than where a player was drafted. Gibson is the only person mentioned that is near the same value. Everyone else has added significantly more value since the draft.
Understandable, but I was trying to make the point that the Ducks have made excellent picks with their 2nd rounders in recent years (possibly throw Schutlz in there, but that was under BB).
Understandable, but I was trying to make the point that the Ducks have made excellent picks with their 2nd rounders in recent years (possibly throw Schutlz in there, but that was under BB).
And it's doubtful that any of those second rounders ever becomes a player as good as Duchene. We can't afford to focus on what we might be in four to five years. We need to look at ways of making this team great now.
I like how you're talking about this like Etem will be the first minority player in this city. Remember when hockey exploded after Alec Martinez, Wayne Simmonds, and Devante Smith-Pelly came here? No, you don't, because it isn't as simplistic as putting someone of a certain ethnicity on the team to make that happen.
Most people in this town have no idea who Teemu Selanne is.
What you lack in your post is that he is a minority player from right down the street of Anaheim. All of this goes hand in hand.
Understandable, but I was trying to make the point that the Ducks have made excellent picks with their 2nd rounders in recent years (possibly throw Schutlz in there, but that was under BB).
I'm going to disagree. Do you live in the area? Do you know how poorly they market their best commodity? Teemu stuff has been sold out at the team store from the beginning of the year. They won't reorder anything. Want some DSP gear? Sorry they never had any of that and won't order during the season. This was told to me by someone in the team store where I was looking for Teemu gear towards the end of the year.
As much as everyone loves Teemu have you noticed how many empty seat there are at most games the last few years when the team has been bad? A winning team sells tickets in SoCal, nothing else. Etem is no goldmine. If the right deal came along he would be shipped out like any other player.
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