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Grabovski? dont know if i would move him now... but if Galchenyuk is available (assuming we take Forsberg) i would do it
Grabovski + 35th overall?
i dont know.. just trying to gauge value
Grabo makes too much for what he brings. If we get somone who is making 5 mil+ they need to be potential #1s. Grabo is what he is, a solid #2 he just makes too much for the Ducks.
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Originally Posted by Phion Keneuf
i also added the 35th overall pick
similar output, 1.3 mil less on the contract
Stastny point totals:
79
78
71
57
53
Grabovski point totals:
58
51
48
35
I would rather pay the extra 1.5 mil for Stastny. His worst year would be as good as an extremely good year for Grabo.
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Originally Posted by lifeisruff
assuming we can flip Ana 1st, Buffalo's 1st and Nashville's 1st for Yakupov
Roy and Armia?
My problem with Roy is the Length of his contract. Not signed as long as I would like, but more importantly, he is a UFA the same offseason as we have to resign Getzlaf Perry Fowler. Thats too much for 1 offseason if you add another top 6 forward.
He is the type of guy I would want if we wernt getting a really young guy. What about St.Louis. I know you guys are happy with your team right now but any interest in the 6th overall for 1 of your centers?
Grabo is a hard-working, 2 way, plays bigger than he is 60 pt player and in a few years, 70 so.. and Paul S. is 6.6 M, not the same as Grabo and worth more to COL's franchise than Grabo to ours IMO
In a few years he will be a 70 point guy? He is 29 lol he is probably at, or very close to, his peak point wise.
what are you looking at for a #2 center? certainly not getting Kelser or Zetterberg for that pick. Roy is one of the best 2nd line centers in the NHL, and he would love ANA.
what are you looking at for a #2 center? certainly not getting Kelser or Zetterberg for that pick. Roy is one of the best 2nd line centers in the NHL, and he would love ANA.
The issue is his contract expires at the same time that Getz and Perry's do. I guess if he was willing to give a commitment to a reasonable extension with us, then I'd do that Roy+Armia offer.
Grabovski and 35th for the 6th is actually good value. You have an interest in Roy but he only makes 500k less then Grabo, but with Grabo you have the term and security. You know he won't walk.
Grabovski also missed some times with injuries and put up 51 pts. He also was with Kulemin and MacArthur for a good portion of the year, Kulemin went from 30 goals to 7 goals, good player but that line did not do as well this year.
what are you looking at for a #2 center? certainly not getting Kelser or Zetterberg for that pick. Roy is one of the best 2nd line centers in the NHL, and he would love ANA.
Like I said before, Roy and Stastny are PERFECT for the QUALITY of player. But Stastny gets paid too much and Roy is a UFA the same offseason as Perry Getzlaf and Fower is a RFA.
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Originally Posted by topdog
As in another thread the Habs could do Pleks ++
Ya so far your proposal is the best we have heard. It is good for both sides I think. My only concern is his age but out of the Grabo Roy and Plekanec type players he is the guy i would want. His contract works for us and he is the type of player who can fill that hole perfectly.
IMO Stastny would be a better but that contract...
Pretty much the players that aren't available. Lol
We would have to add significantly to those guys. And I totally understand why they wouldn't want to trade them. So the Roy Grabo Pleks types are what we are looking at.
Pretty much the players that aren't available. Lol
If Murray somehow drops to 6 (it would have to go Yakupov, Forsberg, Grigo, Dumba, Galchenyuk), I'd consider swapping Schenn for the pick.
(I think most of my fellow Flyers fans will disagree, but I'm just a bit less sure about Schenn's ultimate ceiling, and I'm probably a bit higher on Murray--I think he's this year's Couturier, without the mono--a bit over-analyzed, and a sure-fire 2nd pairing defenseman with higher potential).
We would have to add significantly to those guys. And I totally understand why they wouldn't want to trade them. So the Roy Grabo Pleks types are what we are looking at.
You wouldn't have to add to get those guys.. Simply put they just wouldn't trade them period. Basically what Ducks fans want is a young proven stud on a ELC. So basically this doesn't help any team we would be offering the 6th pick too. We want them to develop the player then we capitalize when they are ready to play. It would be starting from scratch for the other teams...
If Jeff Carter nets the 8th pick and Voracek then for these players you don't add. They just aren't available..
As for everyone saying Stastny would be perfect is his contract was better is a moot point as well because if his contract was better the Avs wouldn't be inclined to move him either. Lol
You wouldn't have to add to get those guys.. Simply put they just wouldn't trade them period. Basically what Ducks fans want is a young proven stud on a ELC. So basically this doesn't help any team we would be offering the 6th pick too. We want them to develop the player then we capitalize when they are ready to play. It would be starting from scratch for the other teams...
If Jeff Carter nets the 8th pick and Voracek then for these players you don't add. They just aren't available..
As for everyone saying Stastny would be perfect is his contract was better is a moot point as well because if his contract was better the Avs wouldn't be inclined to move him either. Lol
He's not exactly what I'd be looking for but he certainly is a decent option and signed long term which is a plus..
TBH with you i'm extremely high on Grigorenko but I would rather give up some to move up in the draft to land the big fish than try to sort through other peoples mess. The problem is nothing is guaranteed.
If Murray somehow drops to 6 (it would have to go Yakupov, Forsberg, Grigo, Dumba, Galchenyuk), I'd consider swapping Schenn for the pick.
(I think most of my fellow Flyers fans will disagree, but I'm just a bit less sure about Schenn's ultimate ceiling, and I'm probably a bit higher on Murray--I think he's this year's Couturier, without the mono--a bit over-analyzed, and a sure-fire 2nd pairing defenseman with higher potential).
Thoughts?
Not likely that Murray would drop to #6 unless he has a horrible combine/interview or some other unknown problem, and then I'm not sure Philly would still want him.
However, if Murray was available at #6, I'd consider that trade for Schenn. It would address our problem of a young #2C, and he's further along to becoming a NHL 2C than Holland at this point.
Not likely that Murray would drop to #6 unless he has a horrible combine/interview or some other unknown problem, and then I'm not sure Philly would still want him.
However, if Murray was available at #6, I'd consider that trade for Schenn. It would address our problem of a young #2C, and he's further along to becoming a NHL 2C than Holland at this point.
I don't think it will happen either, but it isn't impossible--
1. EDM - Yakpov (if they don't trade the pick, he goes here)
2. CBK - Forsberg (just a rumor that seems to be going around on their boards, plausible--they seem happy with their young D corps)
3. MON - Grigorenko (big C, Roy connection)
4. NYI - Dumba (this is the one stretch--I can't see why they would take him over Murray--but who knows).
5. TOR - Galchenyuk
I really don't think it is that crazy. To be honest, I can only see two of those five teams taking D anyway--I think one of Dumba or Murray will be there at 6--but I wouldn't move Schenn for Dumba.
Not likely that Murray would drop to #6 unless he has a horrible combine/interview or some other unknown problem, and then I'm not sure Philly would still want him.
However, if Murray was available at #6, I'd consider that trade for Schenn. It would address our problem of a young #2C, and he's further along to becoming a NHL 2C than Holland at this point.
I'd do it as well. Schenn is further than what we have and what we would draft.
I don't think it will happen either, but it isn't impossible--
1. EDM - Yakpov (if they don't trade the pick, he goes here)
2. CBK - Forsberg (just a rumor that seems to be going around on their boards, plausible--they seem happy with their young D corps)
3. MON - Grigorenko (big C, Roy connection)
4. NYI - Dumba (this is the one stretch--I can't see why they would take him over Murray--but who knows).
5. TOR - Galchenyuk
I really don't think it is that crazy. To be honest, I can only see two of those five teams taking D anyway--I think one of Dumba or Murray will be there at 6--but I wouldn't move Schenn for Dumba.
Would you do it for Dumba and a small plus like Karlsson?
Any team with center depth interested in the 6th overall pick for a YOUNG center who is signed longterm or a RFA? This center cannot be making alot of money. So no Stastny type salaries please.
To me I would be happy with any of the top 6 guys if we draft at 6 but we need a center and I seriously seriously doubt either of the top 2 centers will be there at 6.
My top 6:
Yakupov
Grigorenko
Galchenyuk
Murray
Forsberg
Dumba
I would totally be willing to add for the right guy.
EDIT: When I say #2 I mean a CLEAR #2. Please no Gagner.
