HFBoards  

Go Back   HFBoards > General Hockey Discussion > Trade Rumors and Free Agent Talk
Trade Rumors and Free Agent Talk Trade rumors, transactions, and free agent talk. Rumors must contain the word RUMOR in post title. Proposals must contain the word PROPOSAL in post title.

Isles 1st Rounder (4th Overall)

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old
04-12-2012, 12:16 PM
  #51
Blitz
Registered User
 
Blitz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Fergus, ON
Country: Canada
Posts: 899
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by CREW99AW View Post
Isles are not paying Vanek $7m per.

Also,they won't move top prospects/high picks, for a player 2 yrs from unrestricted free agency.
It may not matter, but his actual salary is only $6.4M/yr for the remainder of his deal... His cap hit is $7,142,857.

Blitz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
04-12-2012, 12:34 PM
  #52
CREW99AW
Registered User
 
CREW99AW's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Posts: 24,108
vCash: 200
Quote:
Originally Posted by tyflames View Post
Comeau will definitley take a pay cut because for one he is not worth the 2.5 million, nor will the flames pay him that much. He didn't pay bad though for us this year, I like what I saw and hope he is kept around for next year.
Comeau went through a few short stretches were he looked dominate.I thought he'd build off last season.

A good guy in the lockerroom.I can still root for him since he's in the west.

CREW99AW is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
04-12-2012, 12:36 PM
  #53
CREW99AW
Registered User
 
CREW99AW's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Posts: 24,108
vCash: 200
Quote:
Originally Posted by Blitz View Post
It may not matter, but his actual salary is only $6.4M/yr for the remainder of his deal... His cap hit is $7,142,857.
$6m or $7m ..it's still too high a salary for the NYI.

Then there is the matter, of his being 2 yrs from unrestricted free agency.Snow would want someone cheaper and further from becoming a ufa.

CREW99AW is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
04-12-2012, 02:32 PM
  #54
goal1228
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 939
vCash: 500
Originally Posted by MPStoEberletoHall
32nd overall,2013 1st and Sam Gagner

Oilers select Yakopov and Galenychuk.

Oilers trade MPS For young defenseman
Hall-Nugent Hopkins-Eberle
Yakopov-Galenychuk-Hemsky


[QUOTE=cjdv16;47770803]Done.

Licking my chops with that 2013 1s
[/B]

So we push out our rebuild another year for a 2nd round pick this year , Gagner who is small and a 2nd / 3rd line tweener ( we have that with Nielsen) and an unknown 1st round pick another year a way? No Thanks - Lets try and raise the bar a little if we are going to trade that pick or just take a quality prospect at #4 this year :Think shakehead


Last edited by goal1228: 04-12-2012 at 02:54 PM. Reason: Correcting sentence
goal1228 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
04-12-2012, 02:38 PM
  #55
KlattNazty
Registered User
 
KlattNazty's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Posts: 3,205
vCash: 500
Luke Schenn
Clarke MacArthur
Korbinian Holzer
2nd 2012


KlattNazty is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
04-12-2012, 03:01 PM
  #56
CREW99AW
Registered User
 
CREW99AW's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Posts: 24,108
vCash: 200
Quote:
Originally Posted by KlattNazty View Post
Luke Schenn
Clarke MacArthur
Korbinian Holzer
2nd 2012

Counter offer
To the NYI:Leafs 1st


To Toronto:
MacDonald
Neilsen
Ness
2nd 2012

CREW99AW is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
04-12-2012, 04:26 PM
  #57
Dr Swag
Banned User
 
Dr Swag's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: T.
Country: Canada
Posts: 789
vCash: 500
Assuming both Forsberg and Gally are on board at #4.

To Isles: Schenn, Komisarek, Kadri, the 35th overall.

To Leafs: 4th overall.

This gives Leafs a chance to draft 2/3 of a top line while Isles pick up a good winger prospect and 2 stay at home defensemen. Gunnarsson can be substituted for Schenn if Isles want some back end mobility.

Dr Swag is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
04-12-2012, 04:56 PM
  #58
CREW99AW
Registered User
 
CREW99AW's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Posts: 24,108
vCash: 200
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dr Swag View Post
Assuming both Forsberg and Gally are on board at #4.

To Isles: Schenn, Komisarek, Kadri, the 35th overall.

To Leafs: 4th overall.

This gives Leafs a chance to draft 2/3 of a top line while Isles pick up a good winger prospect and 2 stay at home defensemen. Gunnarsson can be substituted for Schenn if Isles want some back end mobility.
Dear God in Heaven,

Make opposing fans realize that Snow is not trading his 4th overall pick for their crap or spare parts.

Sincerely,
HF Isles fans

CREW99AW is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
04-12-2012, 05:10 PM
  #59
ericnut
Registered User
 
ericnut's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Newport Beach
Country: United States
Posts: 4,674
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by CREW99AW View Post
Dear God in Heaven,

Make opposing fans realize that Snow is not trading his 4th overall pick for their crap or spare parts.

Sincerely,
HF Isles fans
How about 6th and 35th for 4th?

ericnut is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
04-12-2012, 05:17 PM
  #60
CREW99AW
Registered User
 
CREW99AW's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Posts: 24,108
vCash: 200
Quote:
Originally Posted by ericnut View Post
How about 6th and 35th for 4th?
I'm guessing it would depend on whether Snow felt his guy,would still be available at #6.
I'm not as keen to trade up or down,as other NYI fans.I'd be happy seeing the isles stay at 4 and take one of Murray/Dumba/Galchenyuk.

CREW99AW is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
04-12-2012, 05:22 PM
  #61
HiddenInLight
Registered User
 
HiddenInLight's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 2,862
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by CREW99AW View Post
Dear God in Heaven,

Make Torontofans realize that Snow is not trading his 4th overall pick for their crap or spare parts.

Sincerely,
HF Isles fans

Fixed it for ya

HiddenInLight is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
04-12-2012, 05:28 PM
  #62
Ducksgo
Registered User
 
Ducksgo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Lakewood CA
Country: United States
Posts: 2,951
vCash: 500
Send a message via AIM to Ducksgo
Quote:
Originally Posted by IslesNorway View Post
That type of trade is quite likely I think, give or take a pick or two. but it all depends on who is off the board by then.
Ducks counteroffer 6thoverall +2nd for 4th overall.

Ducksgo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
04-12-2012, 05:31 PM
  #63
ericnut
Registered User
 
ericnut's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Newport Beach
Country: United States
Posts: 4,674
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by CREW99AW View Post
I'm guessing it would depend on whether Snow felt his guy,would still be available at #6.
I'm not as keen to trade up or down,as other NYI fans.I'd be happy seeing the isles stay at 4 and take one of Murray/Dumba/Galchenyuk.
I think Snow will stay put if Murray drops, but assuming Murray goes before then why not trade back to 6th, acquire an asset, and still pick Dumba? You would likely get to pick any defenseman not named Murray, or Forsberg could still be available if Toronto picks a defenseman.

ericnut is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
04-12-2012, 05:33 PM
  #64
CREW99AW
Registered User
 
CREW99AW's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Posts: 24,108
vCash: 200
Quote:
Originally Posted by HiddenInLight View Post
Fixed it for ya


I don't know how many times it's been pointed out that Snow passed on drafting Schenn,questioning his offensive upside.Schenn's skating issues,struggles on the ice and $3m salary have not raised his value for the NYI.

Komi's been a $4.5m, 3rd pairing dman for the last 1-2 seasons.

and Kadri holds little appeal because the isles have their own unproven forward prospects.

CREW99AW is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
04-12-2012, 05:35 PM
  #65
ericnut
Registered User
 
ericnut's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Newport Beach
Country: United States
Posts: 4,674
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by CREW99AW View Post


I don't know how many times it's been pointed out that Snow passed on drafting Schenn,questioning his offensive upside.Schenn's skating issues,struggles on the ice and $3m salary have not raised his value for the NYI.

Komi's been a $4.5m, 3rd pairing dman for the last 1-2 seasons.

and Kadri holds little appeal because the isles have their own unproven forward prospects.
Did you even read his post? I'm pretty sure he knows this.

ericnut is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
04-12-2012, 05:40 PM
  #66
Nova III
New Jersey 5000
 
Nova III's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: New Jersey
Country: United States
Posts: 4,826
vCash: 500
Dion Phaneuf, Jake Gardiner, Luke Schenn, Colby Armstrong for Andrew MacDonald, Mark Streit, Kyle Okposo, 4th Overall.

Problem Solved.


Nova III is online now   Reply With Quote
Old
04-12-2012, 05:43 PM
  #67
CREW99AW
Registered User
 
CREW99AW's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Posts: 24,108
vCash: 200
Quote:
Originally Posted by ericnut View Post
I think Snow will stay put if Murray drops, but assuming Murray goes before then why not trade back to 6th, acquire an asset, and still pick Dumba? You would likely get to pick any defenseman not named Murray, or Forsberg could still be available if Toronto picks a defenseman.
I would rather see the isles get the available prospect,who's at the top of their board,then wait and hope 2 teams below them don't take the isles choice.

CREW99AW is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
04-12-2012, 05:43 PM
  #68
ericnut
Registered User
 
ericnut's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Newport Beach
Country: United States
Posts: 4,674
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Redarmynative View Post
Dion Phaneuf, Jake Gardiner, Luke Schenn, Colby Armstrong for Andrew MacDonald, Mark Streit, Kyle Okposo, 4th Overall.

Problem Solved.

(Some) Toronto fans might argue the trade isn't fair. I mean, how could they give up a #1 defenseman, the best rookie defenseman in the last 10 years, and a young top 4 shutdown defenseman in the same package.

ericnut is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
04-12-2012, 05:46 PM
  #69
ericnut
Registered User
 
ericnut's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Newport Beach
Country: United States
Posts: 4,674
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by CREW99AW View Post
I would rather see the isles get the available prospect,who's at the top of their board,then wait and hope 2 teams below them don't take the isles choice.
Fair enough.

Just FYI, the Ducks would most likely only trade up if Galy is available.

ericnut is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
04-12-2012, 05:54 PM
  #70
mytor4*
 
mytor4*'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Country: Canada
Posts: 11,175
vCash: 500
Markov and Pleks for the Islanders 1st.

mytor4* is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
04-12-2012, 06:01 PM
  #71
CREW99AW
Registered User
 
CREW99AW's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Posts: 24,108
vCash: 200
Quote:
Originally Posted by topdog View Post
Markov and Pleks for the Islanders 1st.
Andrei Markov-$5,750,000 and a ufa in 2 yrs.
Pleks -$5m

Sure

CREW99AW is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
04-12-2012, 06:03 PM
  #72
CREW99AW
Registered User
 
CREW99AW's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Posts: 24,108
vCash: 200
Quote:
Originally Posted by ericnut View Post
Fair enough.

Just FYI, the Ducks would most likely only trade up if Galy is available.
Trying to grab him before Burke does.

CREW99AW is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
04-12-2012, 06:09 PM
  #73
Strometrooper
Registered User
 
Strometrooper's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Country: United States
Posts: 1,437
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by MPStoEberletoHall View Post
32nd overall,2013 1st and Sam Gagner

Oilers select Yakopov and Galenychuk.

Oilers trade MPS For young defenseman
Hall-Nugent Hopkins-Eberle
Yakopov-Galenychuk-Hemsky

Only if you guarantee the Oil win the lottery again for 2013.

Strometrooper is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
04-12-2012, 06:19 PM
  #74
1927
Maj. Conn Smythe
 
1927's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Brock, ON
Country: Canada
Posts: 923
vCash: 500
At some point the Islanders will have to make a choice.

Either:
A) Bring in veterans to help out the young squad to start building for contention in the next two years.

B) Continue to perpetually pick in the top 10 in the hopes the team becomes a contender.

The only way the Islanders get a player of value is if a team that is laden with veterans (i.e. Calgary) wants to do a full out rebuild and has the veteran assets to trade an Iginla, Kipper, etc. for the 4th overall pick.

A team like Philadelphia MAY trade JvR who is a young player on a pretty decent albeit yet deserved longer-term contract. However, Philadelphia will want another young roster player coming back as they are not rebuilding and a team that is rebuilding will not trade any of their most recent young drafted players to either move up or trade for the 4th overall pick.

At some point the Islanders will have to figure out what direction the team needs to go because so far Snow has only shown to keep drafting players at the selected position, or trade down for extra draft picks. He has yet shown to trade the first round pick out right, and the chances of this happening are most likely zero.

1927 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
04-12-2012, 06:27 PM
  #75
ericnut
Registered User
 
ericnut's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Newport Beach
Country: United States
Posts: 4,674
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by CREW99AW View Post
Trying to grab him before Burke does.
Absolutely. Could you imagine Burke's reaction? This time Murray wouldn't be the one throwing bar stools.

ericnut is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Forum Jump


Bookmarks

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:46 PM.

monitoring_string = "e4251c93e2ba248d29da988d93bf5144"
Contact Us - HFBoards - Archive - Privacy Statement - Terms of Use - Advertise - Top - AdChoices

vBulletin Copyright ©2000 - 2013, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
HFBoards.com is a property of CraveOnline Media, LLC, an Evolve Media, LLC company. ©2013 All Rights Reserved.