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04-12-2012, 12:02 PM
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It's because Exelby saw he was wearing a visor which made him a wuss and therefor an acceptable target for a hit. If he wasn't wearing the visor he would have looked too BA to be hit. This is my understanding anyway.
I Lol'd

But really, some argue that you feel the wind/drag from a oncoming opponent and the eye area is very sensitive to this. With a shield on you got less time to react and brace yourself for the hit.

Could also be the wuss-effect but I'm just sayin...

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This. I hate guys in my men league who act all tough with visor and cages.
Not all but the D bag who usually try and rough it up and talk smack are usually hiding behind a cage

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04-12-2012, 12:08 PM
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04-12-2012, 12:22 PM
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Things can still happen when wearing a visor. So its not an end all be all cure. As pucks and sticks can still get under the visor.
...and you can still die in a car accident with your seatbelt on.

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Im still against guys wearing full cages though, too much lack of respect as is, making them even more armored would bring the mindset of being indestructible, while concussions would still be prevalent.
This I agree with - I see the difference even in my dinky little rec ball hockey league. The players who slash and hack and are the most reckless with their sticks are the ones that are wearing shin pads. I can only imagine what it'd be like when you add extra protection to already-massively-protected professional hockey players.

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Players aren't exactly using Koho Revolutions anymore and these days sticks are flying around head level like never before. Stick technology isn't exactly going to go heavier anytime soon, too.

That being said, I still much prefer to play without a visor than with one. I've been in the beer leagues for about 10 years now(and play pretty competitive), and for the last 3 seasons visors have been mandatory in the league I have been in. Honestly, I am much more comfortable without one and feel like my level of awareness is much higher.

I have been hit in the the face with the puck on a few occasions and of course a few high sticks but I have been lucky enough not to be seriously hurt. It's when I wear the visor I seem to get hit in the face much more. It seems like everyone is much more reckless when they have one on and in my opinion, guys who wear cages are even worse.

I guess it all comes down to being responsible for your actions. Since we're not using 4lb tree trunks anymore these things are going to happen but I agree that it is the players choice to take his chances. Keep your sticks down and nobody will get their eyes carved out.

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04-12-2012, 12:34 PM
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I love how improving your odds of serious/ permanent injuries is BA, its only your eyesight you have two eyes right? Your intelligence really shows when you talk about riding motorcycles with no helmets and how its so BA.

Risking your eye sight as a hockey player is a really stupid thing to do its so valuable to you as a player. Damaging your vision for most players could really hurt there career, if the player now has worse peripheral vision he could miss an open guy, make his plays more readable by having to move his head more to get a look at the guy instead of using his peripheral vision. Not to mention if that eye gets hit again he could risk blindness. How has Prongers career been after his eye injury? All in the name of BA

You wear a motorcycle helmet because there always the potential for an accident, you wear it so your odds of surviving it are much greater, the odds of escaping serious brain injury are much greater. Nothing says BA like going out for a ride and returning and spending the next 4 months brain dead in the hospital, if that happened to your dad it would be cool because it was badass?

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heroes lol.

I wore a visor and took it off, haven't worn one in five years. Also I play men's league, which is good and bad. No hitting, but also people irresponsible with sticks.

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I can't completly respect someone that wears a visor, especially someone that is physical. That is why I was never sold on Phaneuf.

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I can't completly respect someone that wears a visor, especially someone that is physical.
May i ask why?

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May i ask why?
Seems pretty gutless to me.

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Seems pretty gutless to me.
Why is protecting your vision gutless?

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heroes lol.

I wore a visor and took it off, haven't worn one in five years. Also I play men's league, which is good and bad. No hitting, but also people irresponsible with sticks.
Probably because they wear visors.

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Why is protecting your vision gutless?
I think it's based on fear more than anything else. I rarely see cases where visors matters as far as protecting someone or preventing injuries or cases there the guy would not have had the injury if he had a visor. So it's all mental! Guys with visors were rare in 1996, why suddenly all the guys need one these days? Is it because oh suddenly there were more injuries to the faces? Not at all.

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I think it's based on fear more than anything else. I rarely see cases where visors matters as far as protecting someone or preventing injuries or cases there the guy would not have had the injury if he had a visor. So it's all mental! Guys with visors were rare in 1996, why suddenly all the guys need one these days? Is it because oh suddenly there were more injuries to the faces? Not at all.
Fear=rational thinking? So what if it's based on that. I make decisions each day based on how each option endangers me or my. Fx I don't let my little niece run around in public or swim unattended and I don't cross a red light or drive without seat belt and I leave a place if I don't feel safe. Of course it's due to fearing the consequences if I didn't, but I don't call it fear. I call it common sense. And I would most certainly wear a visor if I played hockey, but I'm of course also under the impression that it actually prevents injury if you're hit in the eye by a slapshot.

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I don't think he's had an eye injury yet? Might be why Salo still doesn't wear a visor.

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Wearing a visor is lame. I can never see with one.
I agree. I have always made the claim that my visor was MORE dangerous because it was a constant struggle seeing through it. I never did get used to one in the three or four years I has to wear one. I can honestly say I got just as many sticks near my eyes with one as I did without, although I did get a puck that probably would have hit my eye once. But I think I would have seen the puck coming better without the visor and would have been able to duck. Either way...

Thankfully, the mandatory visor thing came at the end of my playing days.

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I think it's based on fear more than anything else. I rarely see cases where visors matters as far as protecting someone or preventing injuries or cases there the guy would not have had the injury if he had a visor. So it's all mental! Guys with visors were rare in 1996, why suddenly all the guys need one these days? Is it because oh suddenly there were more injuries to the faces? Not at all.
How doesent it prevent injuries? i know pucks and sticks can hit the eyes under the visor, but its clear as day they protect the eyes a whole lot. Its common sense really..wearing a helmet wasnt mandatory until 79. Does it mean before that they couldnt have prevented an injury? , of course not. Theres a reason they became mandatory to wear. Wearing a visor is just common sense, i dont know how you can lose respect for someone if he wants to protect such an vitals sense as vision

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I think it's based on fear more than anything else. I rarely see cases where visors matters as far as protecting someone or preventing injuries or cases there the guy would not have had the injury if he had a visor. So it's all mental! Guys with visors were rare in 1996, why suddenly all the guys need one these days? Is it because oh suddenly there were more injuries to the faces? Not at all.
In the 1930s, it was almost unheard of for steelworkers to wear safety harnesses. Only a small percentage of them fell off buildings and died, so why do they all wear safety equipment now?


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I'm sorry, but this is one of the most idiotic faux-macho notions I've ever heard. Not taking advantage of a safety measure that doesn't hinder you or the game doesn't make you a hero, or badass, or special. More often than not, it makes you reckless.

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In the 1930s, it was almost unheard of for steelworkers to wear safety harnesses. Only a small percentage of them fell off buildings and died, so why do they all wear safety equipment now?

Precisely.

Looking tough isn't worth someone life or eye sight.




Visors don't help

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This is without a doubt the dumbest thread with some of the most ridiculous posts I've ever read on HFB. And that's saying something.

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I agree. I have always made the claim that my visor was MORE dangerous because it was a constant struggle seeing through it.
You have difficulty seeing through clear plastic?

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Also, thought I'd say this.

We hooked up a top of the line visor to a refraction mirror to test vision lost. I don't have the data on me, but you lose ~15% of your peripheral vision and ~5% of your front vision. The data clearly shows that it is HARDER to see with a visor.

I wanted to do a wind test to see if reaction times are slowed with the visor in, but we couldn't come up with a legitimate metric to use.

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You have difficulty seeing through clear plastic?
You sir, have never worn a visor in a hockey game. Of this I am sure.

It's the fog you feel like you are in - the condensation and the scratches (although NHLers would have less of all of these because of the buildings they play in and their ability to get a new visor every game). Plus, looking down is terribly difficult, I found.

Difficult as hell if you grew up without one like I did.

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