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04-13-2012, 01:02 AM
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Fun Fact: Kruger won 4/12 draws, or 33%, for the less mathematically inclined!

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You're half right, in the fact that a Swede was the best player on that line.. but, it was Kruger not Stalberg.

Stalberg was useless.
Ok yeah.. tell me one good thing Kruger did. I'll wait patiently.

aside form winning 33% of his draws and icing the last play that led to a goal.

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Ok yeah.. tell me one good thing Kruger did. I'll wait patiently.
He looked solid on the PK

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Fun Fact: Kruger won 4/12 draws, or 33%, for the less mathematically inclined!
Correction: That's 33.33...%

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He looked solid on the PK
That's awesome but not good enough for the 2nd line center in a playoff game. Put Kane there.

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Ok yeah.. tell me one good thing Kruger did. I'll wait patiently.

aside form winning 33% of his draws and icing the last play that led to a goal.
Ok yeah.. tell me one good thing Stalberg did. I'll wait patiently.

aside form turning the puck over everywhere and losing physical battles all over the ice.

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Correction: That's 33.33...%


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That's awesome but not good enough for the 2nd line center in a playoff game. Put Kane there.
Oh, I totally agree. There seemed to be an overconfidence in Q's willingness to change the lines if they didn't work. They didn't and he didn't.

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The whole second line was bad, wasn't on any one of them.

Would not be shocked if we have Stalberg Toews Kane and Sharp Kruger Hossa next game.

This thread should also be locked before it breaks we are way over 1000 posts.

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so we still have a second line center who sucks offensively and can't win faceoffs?

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04-13-2012, 01:13 AM
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Ok yeah.. tell me one good thing Stalberg did. I'll wait patiently.

aside form turning the puck over everywhere and losing physical battles all over the ice.
He had several good carries in to the offensive zone. A few nice shots on Smith. A nice shot off the glove hand of Smith off of a face off. Nice back check in 1st period on Coyote rush. Nice pass to Sharp for a shank.

Did the best on board battles of anyone on that line He did turnover the puck several times in the offensive zone. Including one with a guy with no stick!!! Not his best game for certainly not the worst guy on the line.

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also, has the luster finally worn off oduya? He's looked pretty much exactly like the oduya skeptics thought he would the past 10 games.

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so we still have a second line center who sucks offensively and can't win faceoffs?

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seems legit

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so we still have a second line center who sucks offensively and can't win faceoffs?

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Kruger's much better on the dot than Kane and he's better offensively than Stalberg. Being able to blow past the defenders isn't going to work against a team that sits back like Phoenix.. rendering Stalberg, almost, completely useless.

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The whole second line was bad, wasn't on any one of them.

Would not be shocked if we have Stalberg Toews Kane and Sharp Kruger Hossa next game.

This thread should also be locked before it breaks we are way over 1000 posts.
No mods are up. lol.

I think all of us did not like the Toews, Hossa, Kane line that was practicing. I would prefer Kane as the 2nd line center. Thank god he came back or this team would be screwed.

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Kruger's much better on the dot than Kane and he's better offensively than Stalberg. Being able to blow past the defenders isn't going to work against a team that sits back like Phoenix.. rendering Stalberg, almost, completely useless.
much better? It was like a 2% difference on the year and Kane has something oft referred to as "talent". I'd rather lose 1 more draw out of 50 and have a guy who can play past the red line. Call me crazy.

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Kruger's much better on the dot than Kane and he's better offensively than Stalberg. Being able to blow past the defenders isn't going to work against a team that sits back like Phoenix.. rendering Stalberg, almost, completely useless.
Ok - you just lost any credibility to your argument with that statement. You have obviously gone off the deep end.

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He had several good carries in to the offensive zone. A few nice shots on Smith. A nice shot off the glove hand of Smith off of a face off. Nice back check in 1st period on Coyote rush. Nice pass to Sharp for a shank.

Did the best on board battles of anyone on that line He did turnover the puck several times in the offensive zone. Including one with a guy with no stick!!! Not his best game for certainly not the worst guy on the line.
Of course Stalberg carried the puck into the zone alot.. that's what he does, hold onto the puck too long and constantly try to blow by defenders.. that doesn't mean him carrying the puck in was good. The most notible rush that line had was with Kruger carrying the puck in, in OT, dishing the puck to Stalberg, then drive to the net giving Stalberg all kinds of space to get a shot off.

Kruger also has numerous backchecks, including preventing a break-away after a horrible change by the Hawks defense and Kruger actually cycled the puck effectively.

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04-13-2012, 01:19 AM
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Ok yeah.. tell me one good thing Stalberg did. I'll wait patiently.

aside form turning the puck over everywhere and losing physical battles all over the ice.
Your assessments are awful.

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Ok - you just lost any credibility to your argument with that statement. You have obviously gone off the deep end.
Why do you think I care? Most of this board has no idea how you're supposed to play hockey.. which is why Kruger can be made the goat on the icing call.

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much better? It was like a 2% difference on the year and Kane has something oft referred to as "talent". I'd rather lose 1 more draw out of 50 and have a guy who can play past the red line. Call me crazy.
What was Kane's FO% down the stretch? What was Kruger's? Kruger is much better at the dot.

If you want a guy that can play past the redline, than take Stalberg out of your top-6. You're crazy.

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In other news this thread is not broken yet. That makes me sad!

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It was a team loss. You guys are trying to single out players and put the blame squarely on their shoulders. It was a team loss. There was a lot of bad play from a lot of different Hawks tonight!

I would love to see Kane with Hossa again. I loved their chemistry together this year and I think they should be back together.

We'll get them back in game 2. Just watch!

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What was Kane's FO% down the stretch? What was Kruger's? Kruger is much better at the dot.

If you want a guy that can play past the redline, than take Stalberg out of your top-6. You're crazy.
last 3 games of regular season:
Kane: 22-19
Kruger:19-21

last 5 games:
Kane:28-33
Kruger:25-34

Anything else?

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last 3 games of regular season:
Kane: 22-19
Kruger:19-21

last 5 games:
Kane:28-33
Kruger:25-34

Anything else?
Dude, why bother being rational?

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