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Goalie face washing, do the goalies here find it disrespectful?
Goalie face washing, do the goalies here find it disrespectful?
I was thinking about the penalty Kesler got against Quick, when I played goalie I loved that, I thought it was refreshing to get a face wash cause I got so warm playing.
Any goalies here feel that it's disrespectful and why do you feel that way?
There's nothing refreshing about it. Nothing like getting dirty ice sprayed in your face.
Oh no, not dirt! I'd rather have ice on my face than a ton of sweat. It cools you down. I regularly lift my stick blade above me and tap the shaft on my pad so the ice stuck to the tape on the bottom of the paddle falls off and onto my face.
Oh no, not dirt! I'd rather have ice on my face than a ton of sweat. It cools you down. I regularly lift my stick blade above me and tap the shaft on my pad so the ice stuck to the tape on the bottom of the paddle falls off and onto my face.
Guys sweat, spit and blow snot rockets on the ice. I don't want that anywhere near my eyes or mouth.
The way I look at it is this. Often guys don't mean to give them a snow shower but they were chasing the puck with pressure from the defenceman behind them and it's either get alittle snow in your face or get run over. Take your pick.
But when theres no pressure and no puck and a guy does that just because yea that's disrespectful.
I was lining once and a goalie kept hitting the puck away from me every time I came in to get the puck, so the next time he covered it I skated from the blue line full speed so I could get there before he hit it away and gave him a snow shower. He shouted at me and my excuse was we were being assessed and get marked on our hustle (which we do)
It was totally unprofessional and I shouldn't have done it but it was so epic
Often referees do very little to protect goalies. Many of them belive that because you have big pads, you can handle any contact.
It's important to ensure players know what the limits are. Ok, maybe "injury" is a bit over the top here, but it's not uncommon to see a goalie give a player a nice stick jab to the angles or calf, or a good blocker punch when no one's looking. It wouldn't be needed if the refs always did their job.
Getting sprayed with snow might not be dangerous for the goalie, but if players get away with it, they might think they can get away with dangerous contact. You have to put a stop to that.
Often referees do very little to protect goalies. Many of them belive that because you have big pads, you can handle any contact.
It's important to ensure players know what the limits are. Ok, maybe "injury" is a bit over the top here, but it's not uncommon to see a goalie give a player a nice stick jab to the angles or calf, or a good blocker punch when no one's looking. It wouldn't be needed if the refs always did their job.
Getting sprayed with snow might not be dangerous for the goalie, but if players get away with it, they might think they can get away with dangerous contact. You have to put a stop to that.
There's a big difference between jabbing someone with your stick/pad and intentionally injuring someone. I'm sure the guy I quoted wasn't serious I just thought it was funny the way he worded it.
I was thinking about the penalty Kesler got against Quick, when I played goalie I loved that, I thought it was refreshing to get a face wash cause I got so warm playing.
Any goalies here feel that it's disrespectful and why do you feel that way?
I don't like it at all because I get snow in my eyes.
Oh no, not dirt! I'd rather have ice on my face than a ton of sweat.
Generally, I would, too......but the whole point is that you don't get to decide where the ice goes.
Ice chips on my forehead or neck....fine. Ice chips going in to my eye.....notsomuch.
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Originally Posted by 99 Problems
Oh and obviously I do the smart thing and close both my eyes and mouth.
As most of us do......when we see it coming and know it's coming.
It's the ones that get you when you when you've got your head down and you're too focused on the puck to notice the guy coming in full speed that hurt.
The way I look at it is this. Often guys don't mean to give them a snow shower but they were chasing the puck with pressure from the defenceman behind them and it's either get alittle snow in your face or get run over. Take your pick.
But when theres no pressure and no puck and a guy does that just because yea that's disrespectful.
^^^ This is basically the answer for the OP.
I'd rather take an inadvertent snow shower than to get completely run over. All goalies would.
But if the play is clearly dead and you're just doing it to just for the heck of it (and oh, btw, if you *happen* to slip and fall on your way to crashing the net then I get your skates coming into my grill) yeah, that's pretty bush league.
some one I don't know face washes me in net or playing out the gloves come off.
Snow in the face is disrespectful unless it's to avoid a crash I shrug it off and I will decide if I retaliate later or not.
Crash me and you get the back of my blocker bouncing off your helmet while I'm calling you a "go hard" and telling you to lighten up.
All of the above are just ways to get into the head of the opposition.
I was lining once and a goalie kept hitting the puck away from me every time I came in to get the puck, so the next time he covered it I skated from the blue line full speed so I could get there before he hit it away and gave him a snow shower. He shouted at me and my excuse was we were being assessed and get marked on our hustle (which we do)
It was totally unprofessional and I shouldn't have done it but it was so epic
And you are the guy who goes head first into the boards because my stick is reaching for a puck behind the net while you are rushing in. Oops my bad cupcake
Generally, I would, too......but the whole point is that you don't get to decide where the ice goes.
Ice chips on my forehead or neck....fine. Ice chips going in to my eye.....notsomuch.
As most of us do......when we see it coming and know it's coming.
It's the ones that get you when you when you've got your head down and you're too focused on the puck to notice the guy coming in full speed that hurt.
Agreed.
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Originally Posted by 99 Problems
Not in my crease, they don't
Oh and obviously I do the smart thing and close both my eyes and mouth.
if you are using snow from the Ice to put on your body to cool down then in the summer I have a cesspool you can swim in in the summer. I had a kid (5 years old) scoop up a wad of snow from my crease on the blade of his stick and I was calling down the ice to a buddy for something and WAM I get the stick in the mask and snow in my face, mouth, and eyes. I was sick for a week with diarrhea and two weeks of upper respiratory infection. I know I spit, clear my nostrils, and sweat on the ice in the crease so the next guy has to deal with my nastys like I had to deal with the nastys from the guy(s) before me.
here is a little news from 2 years ago you might want to read before you use snow from the rink for anything.