HFBoards  

Go Back   HFBoards > NHL Eastern Conference > Northeast Division > Buffalo Sabres
Notices

A quote that is overlooked?

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old
04-12-2012, 01:27 AM
  #1
heartsabres*
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Budapest
Country: Hungary
Posts: 1,532
vCash: 500
A quote that is overlooked?

"back to the team direction Buffalo has four of the top 44 picks in this June’s draft. Regier has already told me he’s going to use those picks as assets to get better talent. I’m hoping it’s to move up into one of the top three spots."

http://wgr550.com/pages/12809660.php
Is this statement being overlooked by fans? Everyone has us keeping our pick and drafting at 12. Is something exciting going to happen at the draft?

What does this statement mean?

heartsabres* is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
04-12-2012, 01:33 AM
  #2
jBuds
pretty damn valuable
 
jBuds's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: NYC Suburbs
Country: Lord Howe Island
Posts: 24,406
vCash: 500
It could be nitpicked sixty six ways. I think it's vague, almost a cushion for us using all of the picks. Not that I'm opposed to that, but something like....he's shopping, but comes up short and uses all of the picks. Then circles back and says he used them as assets to get better talent - via the draft.

jBuds is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
04-12-2012, 05:41 AM
  #3
slip
Registered User
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Posts: 5,251
vCash: 500
I know Kris Baker in the WGR radio interview stated he's almost certain that Buffalo will not be choosing players with all 4 of its top picks, and that Regier will be looking to move up in the draft to grab an impact player.

slip is online now   Reply With Quote
Old
04-12-2012, 06:05 AM
  #4
flyingpig
Pay the Troll Toll
 
flyingpig's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Pay the troll toll
Posts: 1,721
vCash: 500
Everyone is a bit edgy.

I think that Regier will move picks and players for an established player that will be an upgrade, rather than a high draft pick. I just think that will mesh with his new, more aggressive m.o. That will get rid of a core player and bring in a fresh core player to further transform chemistry of the team and the "new core" ( not the Rochester core).

flyingpig is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
04-12-2012, 06:22 AM
  #5
HiddenInLight
Registered User
 
HiddenInLight's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 2,849
vCash: 500
I think that quote deserves its own thread....it was largely ignored with all the cut my writsts end of the world nonsensical pessimism that is that other thread. Honestly, since he is controlling almost 10% of the top 50 picks in this draft, darcy would be foolish not to try and make at least one move. Personally with the fqct that darcy has prooved to be willing to move his guys, and the abundance of picks they have, the sabres probably have more ammo to make a move then probably almost any team in the league right now. I think when the dust settles on draft day, there will either be a new traded for player in a sabres sweater, or a top 5 pick in a sabres sweater. Id even go so far as to say the dreaded "book it!"

HiddenInLight is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
04-12-2012, 06:27 AM
  #6
Zip15
Armia One
 
Zip15's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 14,090
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by HiddenInLight View Post
I think that quote deserves its own thread....it was largely ignored with all the cut my writsts end of the world nonsensical pessimism that is that other thread. Honestly, since he is controlling almost 10% of the top 50 picks in this draft, darcy would be foolish not to try and make at least one move. Personally with the fqct that darcy has prooved to be willing to move his guys, and the abundance of picks they have, the sabres probably have more ammo to make a move then probably almost any team in the league right now. I think when the dust settles on draft day, there will either be a new traded for player in a sabres sweater, or a top 5 pick in a sabres sweater. Id even go so far as to say the dreaded "book it!"
Probably not the bolded. Top-5 picks are rarely traded. Since Hamilton didn't give us an actual quote--because he's a hack of a writer--we don't know precisely what Regier said. Plus, what is he really saying? I intend on using those picks to get better talent...for what? The pipeline? The NHL roster? Really, doctor, you don't intend on using those picks to get worse talent.

We all know Darcy is going to try to improve the team, and the picks will sometimes be a part of his offers, and sometimes not. We'll see what happens.

Zip15 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
04-12-2012, 06:52 AM
  #7
Woodhouse
Registered User
 
Woodhouse's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: New York, NY
Posts: 3,799
vCash: 500
Aren't all picks assets to get better talent?!

Woodhouse is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
04-12-2012, 07:10 AM
  #8
LegomyLeggio
Plumber
 
LegomyLeggio's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Rochester, NY
Country: United States
Posts: 11,742
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Woodhouse View Post
Aren't all picks assets to get better talent?!
Absolutely.

That's why the vague statement can be taken a bunch of different ways.

They can package picks and move up.

They can trade the picks to upgrade the NHL roster for next season.

They can trade back and stockpile picks.

Or, they can stay where they are and pick four players.

That quote doesn't give a hint as to which path or paths the Sabres will go in with the picks.

LegomyLeggio is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
04-12-2012, 08:01 AM
  #9
gallagt01
Registered User
 
gallagt01's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Sloan
Posts: 6,311
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by jBuds View Post
It could be nitpicked sixty six ways. I think it's vague, almost a cushion for us using all of the picks. Not that I'm opposed to that, but something like....he's shopping, but comes up short and uses all of the picks. Then circles back and says he used them as assets to get better talent - via the draft.
This. Of course he'll use the picks to get better talent. He'll draft them with the picks, parlay them into higher picks, or trade them for players not in the organization.

gallagt01 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
04-12-2012, 11:37 AM
  #10
SabresBillsBuffalo
Registered User
 
SabresBillsBuffalo's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Buffalo
Posts: 2,946
vCash: 500
please do something

SabresBillsBuffalo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
04-12-2012, 11:45 AM
  #11
LegomyLeggio
Plumber
 
LegomyLeggio's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Rochester, NY
Country: United States
Posts: 11,742
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by SabresBillsBuffalo View Post
please do something
Patience is a virtue.

We are 2 months and 10 days away from the draft.

Then you have a little over a week until free agency starts.

I'm betting that multiple things will happen between now and three months from now (mid-July).

LegomyLeggio is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
04-13-2012, 08:57 PM
  #12
Sean McG
Grigorenkensons
 
Sean McG's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: St. Catharines, ON
Country: Canada
Posts: 441
vCash: 500
I feel regardless of how many picks teams have, every GM, for every team, every year makes some kind of comment like this. No one wants to hear "We're pretty content with where we're at- I think we'll just stay at our slot."

With that being said, I strongly believe with the picks Buffalo has, they'll make a move. But that's really just logically looking at things, this quote didn't do much for me.

Sean McG is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
04-13-2012, 09:05 PM
  #13
SabresBillsBuffalo
Registered User
 
SabresBillsBuffalo's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Buffalo
Posts: 2,946
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jim Bob View Post
Patience is a virtue.

We are 2 months and 10 days away from the draft.

Then you have a little over a week until free agency starts.

I'm betting that multiple things will happen between now and three months from now (mid-July).
I meant then. Please. Please.

SabresBillsBuffalo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
04-13-2012, 09:26 PM
  #14
Myllz
RITE NAO
 
Myllz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Seattle
Country: United States
Posts: 11,591
vCash: 500
I'm guessing Regier wants to use them to get current NHL talent. I don't see him moving up in the draft. I think you'll see him move a couple of those picks and a roster player/prospects for better talent.

Myllz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
04-13-2012, 10:59 PM
  #15
joshjull
Moderator
 
joshjull's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Hamburg,NY
Country: United States
Posts: 27,983
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Myllz View Post
I'm guessing Regier wants to use them to get current NHL talent. I don't see him moving up in the draft. I think you'll see him move a couple of those picks and a roster player/prospects for better talent.
Thats what I'm thinking as well.

joshjull is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
04-13-2012, 11:40 PM
  #16
Insomniac99
Registered User
 
Insomniac99's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Orchard Park, NY
Posts: 903
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by joshjull View Post
Thats what I'm thinking as well.
I'd rather move up in the draft personally. Get a guy who's gonna be a superstar for a long time.

Insomniac99 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
04-14-2012, 08:44 AM
  #17
vcv
Moderator
Deal with it
 
vcv's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Williamsville, NY
Country: United States
Posts: 11,923
vCash: 500
Send a message via AIM to vcv
I also expect him to use the picks to try to get better NHL talent.

I hope no one has tricked themselves into believing Darcy will be anything but aggressive in the off-season, because you end up being wrong.

vcv is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
04-14-2012, 09:02 AM
  #18
ADoubleD
Registered User
 
ADoubleD's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Buffalo, NY
Country: United States
Posts: 1,626
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Insomniac99 View Post
I'd rather move up in the draft personally. Get a guy who's gonna be a superstar for a long time.
Only problem with that is you need a team to be willing to move down, and most teams won't be willing to do that. Moving up to the bottom half of the top 10 might be realistic, but I highly doubt any of the teams in the top 5 will give up their picks, but then again who knows.

ADoubleD is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
04-14-2012, 03:37 PM
  #19
static80
Registered User
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Posts: 1,732
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by flyingpig View Post
Everyone is a bit edgy.

I think that Regier will move picks and players for an established player that will be an upgrade, rather than a high draft pick. I just think that will mesh with his new, more aggressive m.o. That will get rid of a core player and bring in a fresh core player to further transform chemistry of the team and the "new core" ( not the Rochester core).
I happen to fully agree with your thoughts here.
If the stated goal is a contender, then it doesn't suit the situation to move up in the draft. I don't believe for a second they will move up.

But, they will most likely attempt to package picks/prospects and a member or 2 of the current roster known as the "Rochester core" in order to bring in fresh talent.
My money is on Vanek or Roy, but I'm leaning much more toward Vanek.
The reasoning is actually very simplistic, Vanek lacks speed, and he is not very physical. Oh sure, he takes a beating in front of the net, but his 40+ goal seasons he scored much more when he was away from the front of the net.

I just think he is gone.

static80 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
04-14-2012, 03:39 PM
  #20
Myllz
RITE NAO
 
Myllz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Seattle
Country: United States
Posts: 11,591
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by static80 View Post
I happen to fully agree with your thoughts here.
If the stated goal is a contender, then it doesn't suit the situation to move up in the draft. I don't believe for a second they will move up.

But, they will most likely attempt to package picks/prospects and a member or 2 of the current roster known as the "Rochester core" in order to bring in fresh talent.
My money is on Vanek or Roy, but I'm leaning much more toward Vanek.
The reasoning is actually very simplistic, Vanek lacks speed, and he is not very physical. Oh sure, he takes a beating in front of the net, but his 40+ goal seasons he scored much more when he was away from the front of the net.

I just think he is gone.
He also has a contract that makes him much more difficult to move than Roy.

Myllz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
04-14-2012, 03:45 PM
  #21
static80
Registered User
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Posts: 1,732
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Myllz View Post
He also has a contract that makes him much more difficult to move than Roy.
very true Myllz, my only thought on that is a combo package with prospects/picks to sweetin the pot to move him for some real talent.
I'd like to believe Parise is on the radar, but barring an FA signing for him, if it were Vanek to move, I'd be looking hard at some LW talent that could potentially be targeted in a trade that may suit the needs of the team with the physical and speed philosophy.

And honestly, I wouldn't begin to know what specific players that could potentially be.
But your point is very valid on the contract side, especially with the new CBA coming up.

static80 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
04-14-2012, 03:51 PM
  #22
Darcy Regier
Registered User
 
Darcy Regier's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Canada
Country: Canada
Posts: 2,916
vCash: 500
Darcy gets a bad rep for not being agressive which I don't get because since Pegula took over has a GM made more moves than him? Likely not

Darcy Regier is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
04-14-2012, 04:54 PM
  #23
SoFFacet
Registered User
 
SoFFacet's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Rochester, NY
Country: United States
Posts: 1,296
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Myllz View Post
He also has a contract that makes him much more difficult to move than Roy.
Perhaps, but not by as much as you might think. Roy's single year remaining is a significant drawback from the perspective of a trading partner. While Vanek's cap hit is high, he has the perfect number of years left: two. A team viewing itself as a serious contender in the next couple of years, with a bit of cap to burn, will be looking to splurge on players exactly like Vanek to put themselves over the top for multiple deep playoff runs. Whether it works out for them or not, they can let Vanek walk or resign him for less after two years.

SoFFacet is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
04-14-2012, 05:44 PM
  #24
wearegodawful
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Posts: 509
vCash: 500
Honestly don't know what to make of that quote because it could mean so many different things. Really hoping that Regier doesn't try and move up in the draft (and if he does, it better be Galchenyuk because nobody else interests me).

It's a dream scenario, but there's been general speculation about trading Vanek, and serious talk about trading Roy. What if we offered Vanek, Roy, and two 1sts to Anaheim for Getzlaf +? If Darcy's smart, he'll talk to Anaheim in the offseason. after firing Carlyle and having a bad season they might be looking to make a splash. Then Darcy would be looking to add Parise. Then we'd be a cup contender.

Parise-Getzlaf/Staal-Pominville
Foligno-Ennis-Stafford
Gerbe-Hodgson-UFA/Tropp
McCormick-Adam-Kaleta/UFA


Last edited by wearegodawful: 04-14-2012 at 05:52 PM.
wearegodawful is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
04-14-2012, 08:17 PM
  #25
Timbo Slice
Burn it Down
 
Timbo Slice's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Rochester
Country: United States
Posts: 14,009
vCash: 200
I have a feeling we'll turn these picks into something special.

Timbo Slice is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Forum Jump


Bookmarks

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 09:19 AM.

monitoring_string = "e4251c93e2ba248d29da988d93bf5144"
Contact Us - HFBoards - Archive - Privacy Statement - Terms of Use - Advertise - Top - AdChoices

vBulletin Copyright ©2000 - 2013, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
HFBoards.com is a property of CraveOnline Media, LLC, an Evolve Media, LLC company. ©2013 All Rights Reserved.