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04-12-2012, 09:57 AM
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Yeah, I saw that comment from Tim Graham. Great point, from a really nice guy.

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Harrington is complaining solely because he is missing out on a professional opportunity. I am not saying he shouldn't be upset by it but that's his own problem. Trying to convince the fans that it should be a huge deal to us is laughable.
WGR had tried to do the same thing for years with the Bills, until very recently when they kissed and made up. No one ever cared. No one cares about a media outlet's relationship with the sports organization. Harrington is mad that is he and Jerry got cut out of the loop for a radio interview and semipro blogs.

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Kudos to Jeremy White for trolling Harrington...hilarious.
this is great:

Jeremy White ‏ @JeremyWGR · Open
@BNHarrington I did NOT say that it counts the same. I was trying to give Ted credit for taking 100% UNSCREENED calls.
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@JeremyWGR he gets zero credit. This is an open disgrace. You should be completely outraged to be used in this way.


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Black said on the radio show this morning that when he first started doing the weekly appearance, Simon let him see the screen of upcoming callers - Black told WGR to take that away so he could respond openly and honestly to all callers on a spontaneous, 1-on-1 format.
Being someone who is a part of a sports-talk radio show and someone who has called into WGR, I bet I know what they see on the screen.

WGR usually asks the caller their name, where they are from, and what they want to talk about.

Black likely saw a list like this:

Line 1 - Bob, Buffalo - Why is Regier coming back?
Line 2 - Ted, Cheektowaga - Why is Ruff coming back?
Line 3 - Sue, Amherst - Thanks

WGR has never pre-screened calls and dropped out people with hard questions when I've called. They do pre-screen to make sure that things stay on topic.

For instance, they would screen out people that wanted to talk about the Bills while Black was on.

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04-12-2012, 10:15 AM
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Oh look, another reason for fans to blow their lids.

I'm enjoying this in a sick and twisted kind of way. This only further separates the losers from the real journalists.

I used to have little respect for Jeremy White, but I think he's actually improved his objectivity and toned down his personality a bit over time and I find him much more enjoyable, even when I completely disagree with him.

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this is great:

Jeremy White ‏ @JeremyWGR · Open
@BNHarrington I did NOT say that it counts the same. I was trying to give Ted credit for taking 100% UNSCREENED calls.
Mike Harrington ‏ @BNHarrington Close
@JeremyWGR he gets zero credit. This is an open disgrace. You should be completely outraged to be used in this way.

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04-12-2012, 10:20 AM
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Is there a good reason why Harrington couldn't have called in to WGR?

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Is there a good reason why Harrington couldn't have called in to WGR?
This is Mike from Buffalo

"So Ted, why didn't you send Bucky Gleason a Christmas card?"

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04-12-2012, 10:28 AM
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I just think its odd to have one practically every season, have one last year under new regime and this year **** hits the fan and they don't have 1.

I don't have time to weed through everything to find out what Ted Black said to 8 different people who attempted to interview him. Its much easier listening to a presser or a tape of a presser that answers just about every question asked.

From a fan and season ticket holders perspective I'd like answers to what the mess was this year. I want to know Lindy's perspective on things that just happened because I'm going to have to be forced to deal with his ******** for at minimum of 1 more season. How he plans to correct it going forward.

Maybe they answered it 2 months ago, I don't know. There isn't enough time for me to weed through everything. Have a presser, answer questions, close out the season, move on.


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Harrington's indignation is pretty humorous. He's thrashing around on Twitter trying to get fans to get pissed on his behalf.

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I don't want a presser, I want it to be late September with an improved roster. TBN continues to show how much of a joke rag it is when it comes to the Sabres.

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Is there a good reason why Harrington couldn't have called in to WGR?
Not like he needs to.

Vogl managed to get Black on the phone. Why couldn't Harrington?

Oh wait. That's because he didn't try. He expected the Sabres to give him a forum where he wouldn't have had to work.

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04-12-2012, 10:45 AM
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Well according to Harrington, they "got us", and by not having a boring, cliche filled presser they've let down every fan...



As others have said, who cares, put a better team on the ice next year. I dont think most fans happiness is derived from hearing management say the same things they always do, it comes from winning on the ice. And people keep buying because they love this team regardless, at least I do. But keep researching which non-playoff teams have already had pressers Mike... haha
That's where I stand; the radio appearance doesn't make up for it (for me) because I kept hearing all the same things. So at this point, a press conference would consist of dodging questions, cliche responses, and overworked messages. Let's see what happens next season.

Harrington just seems like an insane person at this point.

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I just think its odd to have one practically every season, have one last year under new regime and this year **** hits the fan and they don't have 1.

I don't have time to weed through everything to find out what Ted Black said to 8 different people who attempted to interview him. Its much easier listening to a presser or a tape of a presser that answers just about every question asked.

From a fan and season ticket holders perspective I'd like answers to what the mess was this year. I want to know Lindy's perspective on things. How he plans to correct it going forward.

Maybe they answered it 2 months ago, I don't know. There isn't enough time for me to weed through everything. Have a presser, answer questions, close out the season.
Pegula/Black held one last year because they had just bought the team.

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04-12-2012, 11:02 AM
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I am curious how much of this has to do with the fact that the Buffalo news was clearly trying to push the "divide between Lindy and the players" narrative during locker room clean out day.
I wouldn't want to give them a press conference either.
The question was asked pointedly about Ruff by Adam Benigni<sp> from channel 2, not TBN.

I don't understand the despise surrounding TBN. This team doesn't deserve accolades, it deserves to be hammered by the media and the fans for the garbage product sold to the public.

The Sabres are arrogant and fans continue to purchase the inferior product, therefore the Sabres believe until ticket sales falter then nothing is wrong. Criticizing the news just gives Pegula more positive reinforcement to keep things as they are.

We should be embracing the negative news stories not negating them, regardless if you like a writer or not. It's funny, everyone moans about how negative these BN reporters are, yet there has been nothing positive about the Sabres on ice product, at least in the end result, which is another year not making the playoffs.

What the hell is there to be so positive about? I applaud TBN for telling it like it is.

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This is Mike from Buffalo

"So Ted, why didn't you send Bucky Gleason a Christmas card?"


I have a feeling Mike from Buffalo would've been the only screened call that day.

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Jeremy White ‏ @JeremyWGR · Open
@BNHarrington I did NOT say that it counts the same. I was trying to give Ted credit for taking 100% UNSCREENED calls.
Mike Harrington ‏ @BNHarrington Close
@JeremyWGR he gets zero credit. This is an open disgrace. You should be completely outraged to be used in this way.

Does Harrington actually think he is going to have any cooperation from Sabres Brass in the near future pulling crap like this?

Love the comment from Tim Graham.

It is interesting to me that the various factors of the media are so willing to openly challenge/slam each other. Twitter is wild.

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The question was asked pointedly about Ruff by Adam Benigni<sp> from channel 2, not TBN.

I don't understand the despise surrounding TBN. This team doesn't deserve accolades, it deserves to be hammered by the media and the fans for the garbage product sold to the public.

The Sabres are arrogant and fans continue to purchase the inferior product, therefore the Sabres believe until ticket sales falter then nothing is wrong. Criticizing the news just gives Pegula more positive reinforcement to keep things as they are.

We should be embracing the negative news stories not negating them, regardless if you like a writer or not. It's funny, everyone moans about how negative these BN reporters are, yet there has been nothing positive about the Sabres on ice product, at least in the end result, which is another year not making the playoffs.

What the hell is there to be so positive about? I applaud TBN for telling it like it is.
Then dont buy tickets.

This is not the same team or ownership. it is not completely status quo.

I personally beleive the team has a calculated plan that they are following that does not realistically call for an overnight turnaround but a few years to put in place.

I have little time for embracing negative news stories that are based more on sensationalism than straight opinion. They have axes to grind and want to sell papers with negativity rather than objectivity.

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I don't blame them. I would rather though focus on continuing to improve the roster than answering stupid questions.

They know the season was a let down just like everyone else but the fact is, they did improve the long term outlook of the roster and will probably be better for it next season.

And for a team that allegedly does nothing according to some people, they brought in 2 big time defensemen, drafted seemingly well, brought in a center when everyone was crying for it and improved our outlook for the draft this season. Could they have done more during the injury slide? Maybe. I would have hated to see them give up something integral for a stop gap though.

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I don't understand the despise surrounding TBN. This team doesn't deserve accolades, it deserves to be hammered by the media and the fans for the garbage product sold to the public.
The problem is the poor quality of the arguments that certain writers at TBN put out in their rants against the Sabres, mostly Gleason and Sullivan, but Harrington at times too.

And I would disagree that the Sabres are a garbage product. I was entertained a lot early and late this season.

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The Sabres are arrogant and fans continue to purchase the inferior product, therefore the Sabres believe until ticket sales falter then nothing is wrong. Criticizing the news just gives Pegula more positive reinforcement to keep things as they are.
Are you kidding me?

Ruff said it was embarrassing to miss the playoffs.

Black said the results this season weren't what they wanted and that they will continue to improve the roster to get to the end goal of winning the Cup.

I don't see the arrogance there.

I see confidence in Regier & Ruff being able to deliver a Cup given the resources that Terry Pegula as owner will provide.

I may disagree with that confidence. But, I don't see that as arrogance.

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We should be embracing the negative news stories not negating them, regardless if you like a writer or not. It's funny, everyone moans about how negative these BN reporters are, yet there has been nothing positive about the Sabres on ice product, at least in the end result, which is another year not making the playoffs.
Why embrace the horrible quality of the negative stories?

Gleason and Sullivan have been calling for Regier's head for how long? It hasn't worked yet. Why celebrate poor, repetitive articles that don't result in getting the type of regime change that many believe needs to happen to get the team the Cup?

Plenty here would celebrate a solid article that makes a great case for relieving Regier and/or Ruff. But, most feel that neither Gleason nor Sullivan has the ability to write that article.

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What the hell is there to be so positive about? I applaud TBN for telling it like it is.
Where is the positivism?

I think most people here believe that one, or both, of Regier and Ruff should go.

A lot of people were resigned to the fact that Pegula & Black would bring them back for another year prior to the announcement.

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The Sabres are arrogant and fans continue to purchase the inferior product, therefore the Sabres believe until ticket sales falter then nothing is wrong. Criticizing the news just gives Pegula more positive reinforcement to keep things as they are.
I don't think its fair to characterize the Sabres under Pegula as "arrogant" and them "staying the course" based on ticket sales doesnt make sense either. I think that argument may have applied to previous ownership who was admitedly concerned with the bottom line first and foremost. The reality is Terry came in here and spent a crapload of money on new players and improving the arena experience for fans. I expect that to continue because I believe his number one goal is to win a cup and make this a first class organization. Many of us may disagree if keeping Lindy/Darcy around is the best way to achieve that but it doesn't change the fact that he's committed to improving this team.

As far as TBN is concerned in this instance, it's not about critical or negative stories, the points of which I sometimes agree with; it's about the lack of objectivity and agendas that seem to be pushed a lot of the time. And Harrington's claim that a lack of a press conference is a failure of the team to hold themselves accountable to the fans and the community is ridiculous. Accountability will be shown through what moves this organization makes to get better, not empty soundbites that we've already heard repeatedly throughout the year.

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The question was asked pointedly about Ruff by Adam Benigni<sp> from channel 2, not TBN.

I don't understand the despise surrounding TBN. This team doesn't deserve accolades, it deserves to be hammered by the media and the fans for the garbage product sold to the public.

The Sabres are arrogant and fans continue to purchase the inferior product, therefore the Sabres believe until ticket sales falter then nothing is wrong. Criticizing the news just gives Pegula more positive reinforcement to keep things as they are.

We should be embracing the negative news stories not negating them, regardless if you like a writer or not. It's funny, everyone moans about how negative these BN reporters are, yet there has been nothing positive about the Sabres on ice product, at least in the end result, which is another year not making the playoffs.

What the hell is there to be so positive about? I applaud TBN for telling it like it is.
Is this Mike Harrington posting? Bucky, is that you? Sully? I am serious.

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Is this Mike Harrington posting? Bucky, is that you? Sully? I am serious.
He/she claimed to work with Paul Hamilton earlier......

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He/she claimed to work with Paul Hamilton earlier......
I know, and said he was a mouthpiece for Ruff/Regier straight from their meetings

I wonder if "work with Hamilton" meant "in the media"... The embracing of the negative would fit like a glove, slamming the Sabres and the call for a battle cry by the fans sounds just like Harrington on twitter earlier today.

To each his own. I like to be a galss half full sort of guy and hope that it iwll make me happy and live longer.

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