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04-12-2012, 08:20 AM
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Black Aces

Tim Murray on The Team yesterday indicated that he expected as many as 8 Black Aces called from Binghamton. 1 goalie, 3 defenceman and 4 or 5 forwards.

I assume that is in addition to any Sens roster players not dressing.

Our Black Aces (my guess) would then look like

Auld plus Lehner
Carkner plus Borowiecki, Wiercioch, Gryba
Konopka, Butler, Klinkhammer, plus Zibanejad, Hoffman, DaCosta, Petersson and Silfverberg

Is that not too many guys? - is there not a limit? What role can they fill besides just hanging around to watch and absorb the experience?

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Mark Stone's team was eliminated last night; any chance he could join the black aces?

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Tim Murray on The Team yesterday indicated that he expected as many as 8 Black Aces called from Binghamton. 1 goalie, 3 defenceman and 4 or 5 forwards.

I assume that is in addition to any Sens roster players not dressing.

Our Black Aces (my guess) would then look like

Auld plus Lehner
Carkner plus Borowiecki, Wiercioch, Gryba
Konopka, Butler, Klinkhammer, plus Zibanejad, Hoffman, DaCosta, Petersson and Silfverberg

Is that not too many guys? - is there not a limit? What role can they fill besides just hanging around to watch and absorb the experience?
Rotate in and out of the lineup if guys get sluggish or we need a kick of energy. I could see Borocop get a game, same with Zibby, the rest would fill in should injuries take their toll.

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Mark Stone's team was eliminated last night; any chance he could join the black aces?
It's possible, but if he is injured as rumoured they might prefer he rests up.

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Mark Stone's team was eliminated last night; any chance he could join the black aces?
Murray did mention Stone as one of the guys who will get a long look in the next days (I assumed in Binghamton) - he stated his name alongside Silfverberg and Zibanejad, so I guess that means he's very highly regarded to step in sooner than later.

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It's going to get awkward for Auld when we we call up Lehner after this season and there are 4 goalies on the ice during practice...

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I would think that there would have to be quite a few injuries before we see any prospect play in any playoff games. The exception might be Silfverberg for a game but he would have to impress big time to get into a game as well.

Goalies - Anderson, Bishop, Lehner & Auld in that order, Anderson or Bishop would have to get hurt in order for Lehner to get the call.

Defencemen - at least two defencemen would have to be hurt in order for Boroweicki to get any games.

Forwards - they might insert Silfverberg, Zibanejad or Hoffman to try & get some sort of scoring spark if they are down a few games or because of injuries. Otherwise they will go with the guys they have including their extra players Klinkhammer, Butler & Konopka who have been there most of the yr would be my guess.

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I think the large list is more about the team wanting as many as their favourable prospects as possible to experience the atmosphere of the playoffs.

I do think that if Carks can't keep up and Gilroy plays his usual lackluster style of game that they wouldn't hesitate to throw in Boro as the #6.

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I think the large list is more about the team wanting as many as their favourable prospects as possible to experience the atmosphere of the playoffs.

I do think that if Carks can't keep up and Gilroy plays his usual lackluster style of game that they wouldn't hesitate to throw in Boro as the #6.
Yup. It's a smart move to get the guys used to the pressure of the playoffs without actually throwing them onto the ice during a game.

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Put him in on tuesday. Michalek spezza stone!!!!

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Pretty sure he is hurt

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@Sensfan16 When Tim Murray said 1G-3D-4F, I assumed Lehner, Borowiecki, Gryba, Wiercioch, Da Costa, Hoffman, Petersson, Zibanejad.

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I think Butler might be good against the rangers. He's not a bad possession player despite being soft as butter.

His other quality is his shot which I believe he'd be able to get through despite the rangers shot blockers.

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Pretty sure he is hurt
Which of our good prospects aren't hurt? Is Silfverberg next on the list

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I think Butler might be good against the rangers. He's not a bad possession player despite being soft as butter.

His other quality is his shot which I believe he'd be able to get through despite the rangers shot blockers.
Butler has simply been terrible. If Alfie can't go though, there isn't much of a choice but to dress Butler over K-Daug/Hammer/Available_Black_A$$es.

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"#Sens' Black Aces being called up from #BSens: Lehner; Borowiecki, Gryba, Wiercioch; Da Costa, Dziurzynski, Hoffman, Petersson, Zibanejad."

"#BSens Coach Kurt Kleinendorst and Assistant Coach Steve Stirling will both be going to Ottawa to work with #Sens' Black Aces."

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I would put in Gryba over Gilroy if Carkner is suspended. Much tougher.

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Gryba over Boro??

Also, if Alfie is out, I would hate to see Butler get inserted into the lineup. Butler and playoff hockey just don't mix in my mind. Is Hoffman a worthwhile option at this point? Seems like he had a really strong second half.

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"#Sens' Black Aces being called up from #BSens: Lehner; Borowiecki, Gryba, Wiercioch; Da Costa, Dziurzynski, Hoffman, Petersson, Zibanejad."

"#BSens Coach Kurt Kleinendorst and Assistant Coach Steve Stirling will both be going to Ottawa to work with #Sens' Black Aces."

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Da Costa and/or Hoffman could potentially make it into a game.

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Gryba over Boro??

Also, if Alfie is out, I would hate to see Butler get inserted into the lineup. Butler and playoff hockey just don't mix in my mind. Is Hoffman a worthwhile option at this point? Seems like he had a really strong second half.
Don't worry, it would be Boro. He's clearly ahead Gryba on the depth chart, and plenty tough himself.

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"#Sens' Black Aces being called up from #BSens: Lehner; Borowiecki, Gryba, Wiercioch; Da Costa, Dziurzynski, Hoffman, Petersson, Zibanejad."

"#BSens Coach Kurt Kleinendorst and Assistant Coach Steve Stirling will both be going to Ottawa to work with #Sens' Black Aces."

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DD, hell yeah!

I think either Gryba or Borocop should draw in if Carks is suspended.

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Gryba over Boro??

Also, if Alfie is out, I would hate to see Butler get inserted into the lineup. Butler and playoff hockey just don't mix in my mind. Is Hoffman a worthwhile option at this point? Seems like he had a really strong second half.
I also think Butler hasn't had a good year. But he has shown he can be effective and not hurt us on the bottom line if he can't score. The 4th line hardly played at all last game at ES. Butler does have a great shot and he could have a really good game. If he can't produce with say Turris and Foligno then he can just get sent to the 4th line after a half dozen shifts. If he can find some magic then every goal will be huge. He should have some fresh legs at least. He managed 13 goals in Bingo's Calder Cup win.

I was thinking Konopka was not even going to dress in the playoffs but he was huge in helping us win game 2. Maybe Butler can find the same magic. We have a deep bench, time to try to use it I think if Alfredsson is not able to play.

I trust Maclean and Murray to make the decisions. They have done a great job all season. So we will see.

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Butler's a perimeter player in a series were we can barely get pucks through the NYR wall - not a good idea to dress him.

I'd go with Klink - big boy who's not afraid of the front of the net.

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Don't worry, it would be Boro. He's clearly ahead Gryba on the depth chart, and plenty tough himself.
Don't be too sure, Gryba was named the team's top dman for the year at last nights game. Gryba has without doubt logged the top minutes for the last two months.

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Don't be too sure, Gryba was named the team's top dman for the year at last nights game. Gryba has without doubt logged the top minutes for the last two months.
I would be shocked if Gryba played before Boro. We'll see.

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