Burke should have gone out and got this guy. He should have willingly gave Kadri + Kulemin + w/e to make philly not ignore them for LA's offer. Mike Richards would have been the perfect guy for us. He's great in the playoffs. Just watch his game against Vancouver last night and you'll see he was pretty effective. He would have also solved our #1 center problem and we wouldn't have to be looking for one now. It would have enabled us to even try and draft Yakupov who is RW (and would have replaced kulemin) or focus solely on getting a goaltender.
EDIT: When I say we can draft Yakupov I don't mean that we'll suck if richards got here. What I mean is if we are in the same position as this year we'd have no problems trading for Yakupov because positional needs wouldn't be much of a factor. Right now we need a center so obviously Burke is not going to trade up to get Yakupov when he needs a center badly.
Burke should have gone out and got this guy. He should have willingly gave Kadri + Kulemin + w/e to make philly not ignore them for LA's offer. Mike Richards would have been the perfect guy for us. He's great in the playoffs. Just watch his game against Vancouver last night and you'll see he was pretty effective. He would have also solved our #1 center problem and we wouldn't have to be looking for one now. It would have enabled us to even try and draft Yakupov who is RW (and would have replaced kulemin) or focus solely on getting a goaltender.
I agree. I would have gone hard after him. He's amazing out there, and a real competitor. The other guy I like on LA, is Stoll.
Burke should have gone out and got this guy. He should have willingly gave Kadri + Kulemin + w/e to make philly not ignore them for LA's offer. Mike Richards would have been the perfect guy for us. He's great in the playoffs. Just watch his game against Vancouver last night and you'll see he was pretty effective. He would have also solved our #1 center problem and we wouldn't have to be looking for one now. It would have enabled us to even try and draft Yakupov who is RW (and would have replaced kulemin) or focus solely on getting a goaltender.
Apparently Holmgren told Burke he'd get back to him, then proceeded to trade him out of the conference which was his preference all along.
Burke should have gone out and got this guy. He should have willingly gave Kadri + Kulemin + w/e to make philly not ignore them for LA's offer. Mike Richards would have been the perfect guy for us. He's great in the playoffs. Just watch his game against Vancouver last night and you'll see he was pretty effective. He would have also solved our #1 center problem and we wouldn't have to be looking for one now. It would have enabled us to even try and draft Yakupov who is RW (and would have replaced kulemin) or focus solely on getting a goaltender.
How would trading for Mike Richards enable us to draft Yakupov??? That's quite the stretch!
How do you know Burke didn;t try and offer something big and Philly just said no? Do you have any knowledge whatsovever that a trade was possible?
Apparently Holmgren told Burke he'd get back to him, then proceeded to trade him out of the conference which was his preference all along.
That's why I said to add to kulemin and kadri. Burke was too laid back. He should have been harder cause kulemin +kadri obviously got holmgren's attention.
That's why I said to add to kulemin and kadri. Burke was too laid back. He should have been harder cause kulemin +kadri obviously got holmgren's attention.
a. Burke accepted the deal for Richards not Carter, it was Holmgren who chose LA over TOR
b. Kulemin was coming off a 30 goal season and the offensive difference between them was minimal
c. There is no way in hell this would help us draft Yakupov, if anything it would push us further from the bottom
How would trading for Mike Richards enable us to draft Yakupov??? That's quite the stretch!
How do you know Burke didn;t try and offer something big and Philly just said no? Do you have any knowledge whatsovever that a trade was possible?
Well right now there's no point in going after Yakupov because we don't have room for him anyways. We are in need of a center now which we could have got in Mike Richards. We'll most likely draft a center right now.
Btw everyone knows what happened in the Richards deal. Burke got holmgren's attention and he said he'll get back to burke but never did once LA came up. If burke had just made his offer a little more appealing the deal would have closed then.
Burke should have gone out and got this guy. He should have willingly gave Kadri + Kulemin + w/e to make philly not ignore them for LA's offer. Mike Richards would have been the perfect guy for us. He's great in the playoffs. Just watch his game against Vancouver last night and you'll see he was pretty effective. He would have also solved our #1 center problem and we wouldn't have to be looking for one now. It would have enabled us to even try and draft Yakupov who is RW (and would have replaced kulemin) or focus solely on getting a goaltender.
omg dont ever say burke screwed up
the more i hear the jokes and the more i read and reflect on his signings the worse this buffoon looks
next thing burke is gonna want is a pre draft draft so the leafs can get the right pick before anyone else
how can he say ignore the "pittsburgh model"?hed have way more than just kessel now
nice having kessel but we ll never know if he ;ll be a factor in the playoffs .no way rogers will pay him 7-8 million a year
Burke didn't mess up, Philly never called us back because their preference was to move Richards out of their conference and that's exactly what they did.
This. Holmgren wanted both of them shipped to the West.
If he added more to the trade I'm pretty sure it would have gone in our favour. At the time Kadri and Schenn were pretty much a wash since none of them had much NHL time. Simmonds wasn't anything special back then and Kulemin came off a 30 goal season. If he added a prospect it would have surely made the difference between sending Richards to the west or just letting him stay in the east.
omg dont ever say burke screwed up
the more i hear the jokes and the more i read and reflect on his signings the worse this buffoon looks
next thing burke is gonna want is a pre draft draft so the leafs can get the right pick before anyone else
how can he say ignore the "pittsburgh model"?hed have way more than just kessel now
nice having kessel but we ll never know if he ;ll be a factor in the playoffs .no way rogers will pay him 7-8 million a year
The pittsburgh model worked because they had 2 generational talents, it worked for Chicago because they had already drafted a couple solid D's at the time. Boston and Detroit didn't use that method and they won?
Richards puts up under 50 points in the regular season, people question his ability
Richards puts up 3 points in game one of the playoffs, and its back to Kulemin + kadri.
I have said it from day one, Richards is 60 point player.... a great one at that, but a 60 point player. He is not a 1C
Richards puts up under 50 points in the regular season, people question his ability
Richards puts up 3 points in game one of the playoffs, and its back to Kulemin + kadri.
I have said it from day one, Richards is 60 point player.... a great one at that, but a 60 point player. He is not a 1C
He was injured this season. He plays on a team that generally has a hard time to score. Put him in between Kessel and Lupul and you'll see him get back to form (70-80 point center when he was in philly) easily. He's on a great contract with a 5mil or so cap hit. He'd be great person to help the younger ones.
Watching him last night, man is he a competitor. Exactly what the Leafs need. He's a player that brings passion every night which i'm sure most would agree was missed in the Leafs lineup all year. Now obviously as has been stated above, Holmgren wanted him out of conference which is understandable. Another player that sticks out in their lineup is Jarret Stoll who is UFA (currently), if he goes unsigned by LA i'd love to have him in the lineup. Should the Kings falter in the first round and the Dustin Brown rumors be true, I would give up a lot for Brown. You add two character guys (one more skilled then the other) to the Leafs lineup in Stoll and Brown and it goes a long way towards helping with the Leafs toughness/competiveness problem.
Edit: Just as a sidenote, I couldn't believe how shaky Doughty looked last night.
I just don't understand the logic at all behind "We should have done whatever to get Richards! We would have been better off!!!" which then directly leads too: "We would have been worse and maybe drafted Yakupov!"
I don't see how getting Richards would have allowed us to be worse off and maybe get Yakupov?
Anyways... Richards is a very, very good player and I would have done that deal also.
I just watched sydney crosby play man burke is an idiot he should have picked this kid up! Fire burke!?!?!?
Agreed. Burke also failed to win us a lottery. And he also swore on TV. He's a bad GM.
Kadri and Kuley VS Schenn and Simmonds... hmmmmmm... how did Burke manage to screw that up?
I just don't understand the logic at all behind "We should have done whatever to get Richards! We would have been better off!!!" which then directly leads too: "We would have been worse and maybe drafted Yakupov!"
I don't see how getting Richards would have allowed us to be worse off and maybe get Yakupov?
Anyways... Richards is a very, very good player and I would have done that deal also.
I didn't mean it like that. What I meant was that it would allow us to not have to draft a center and trading up to draft yakupov would have been worth it. Right now we need a center so getting yakupov doesn't help especially when we have too many wingers. If we had Mike Richards we could draft a center, winger or d since we'd be set with richards and grabo as our 1 & 2 center. Or if you don't want Yakupov we could focus on getting our selves a legit goalie through trade (maybe even trade this years pick). right now we don't have those options because we still need a #1 center.
Keep it coming.
